Current Events > NYC bans you from saying 'Illegal Aliens' and can fine you $250,000

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Unsugarized_Foo 09/28/19 9:00:01 PM #1:	https://nypost.com/2019/09/26/city-bans-calling-someone-an-illegal-alien-out-of-hate/ Its now against the law in New York City to threaten someone with a call to immigration authorities or refer to them as an illegal alien when motivated by hate. The restrictions violations of which are punishable by fines of up to $250,000 per offense are outlined in a 29-page directive released by City Halls Commission on Human Rights. --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:928079512] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>https://nypost.com/2019/09/26/city-bans-calling-someone-an-illegal-alien-out-of-hate/ <quote>Its now against the law in New York City to threaten someone with a call to immigration authorities or refer to them as an illegal alien when motivated by hate. The restrictions violations of which are punishable by fines of up to $250,000 per offense are outlined in a 29-page directive released by City Halls Commission on Human Rights.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk 09/28/19 9:00:45 PM #2:	A hotel prohibits its housekeepers from speaking Spanish while cleaning because it would offend hotel guests or make them uncomfortable, reads one hypothetical. KEKS LOUDLY --- https://i.imgtc.ws/ZSMkmi1.jpg <cite>RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted [p:928079540] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote> A hotel prohibits its housekeepers from speaking Spanish while cleaning because it would offend hotel guests or make them uncomfortable, reads one hypothetical. KEKS LOUDLY</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
megamanfreakXD 09/28/19 9:03:31 PM #3:	Well if we don't stop, ICE will spawn a Mexican joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQqdPSwfkMs" data-time=" --- https://imgur.com/tzhGHNu <cite>megamanfreakXD posted [p:928079620] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Well if we don't stop, ICE will spawn a Mexican joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQqdPSwfkMs" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/28/19 9:08:31 PM #4:	Kein Mensch ist illegal --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928079813] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Kein Mensch ist illegal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 09/28/19 9:18:19 PM #5:	Im sure that when motivated by hate guideline wont be abused at all... --- Raised on VHS, anchored to DVD <cite>masticatingman posted [p:928080201] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Im sure that when motivated by hate guideline wont be abused at all...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 09/28/19 11:09:17 PM #6:	Probably just wanna keep Trump out unless he pays his way --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:928083925] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Probably just wanna keep Trump out unless he pays his way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/28/19 11:13:18 PM #7:	"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:928084051] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 09/28/19 11:16:10 PM #8:	Another reason to stay out of NYC if the mass surveillance wasn't bad enough. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:928084139] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Another reason to stay out of NYC if the mass surveillance wasn't bad enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/28/19 11:18:16 PM #9:	Rika_Furude posted... "illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too. --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing. 89 Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:928084213] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/28/19 11:20:16 PM #10:	Hexenherz posted... Rika_Furude posted... "illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too. Interesting. I change my statement from "the correct legal term" to "a correct legal term". --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:928084291] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too.</quote> Interesting. I change my statement from "the correct legal term" to "a correct legal term".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/28/19 11:20:27 PM #11:	Yikes --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:928084298] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Yikes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Annihilated 09/28/19 11:22:16 PM #12:	Can't wait till those fascist fucks take it up the ass from the Supreme Court. <cite>Annihilated posted [p:928084359] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Can't wait till those fascist fucks take it up the ass from the Supreme Court.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/28/19 11:22:44 PM #13:	If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:928084380] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 09/28/19 11:24:51 PM #14:	Rika_Furude posted... "illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. i doubt it and those words are used to attack inmigrants and legal citizens the way i see it this law makes it so if a bigot calls someone an illegal alien when they have no way to know if they are or not they can be fined i think its fair --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:928084456] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> i doubt it and those words are used to attack inmigrants and legal citizens the way i see it this law makes it so if a bigot calls someone an illegal alien when they have no way to know if they are or not they can be fined i think its fair</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/28/19 11:26:58 PM #15:	marc55 posted... Rika_Furude posted... "illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. i doubt it and those words are used to attack inmigrants and legal citizens the way i see it this law makes it so if a bigot calls someone an illegal alien when they have no way to know if they are or not they can be fined i think its fair Do you get fined for any other insult? For example if you call someone an asshole? --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:928084524] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>marc55 posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> i doubt it and those words are used to attack inmigrants and legal citizens the way i see it this law makes it so if a bigot calls someone an illegal alien when they have no way to know if they are or not they can be fined i think its fair</quote> Do you get fined for any other insult? For example if you call someone an asshole?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/28/19 11:30:09 PM #16:	This applies to employment and renting cases, not just randos on the street: https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/relationships/nyc-bans-calling-someone-an-illegal-alien-of-out-hate/ar-AAHWq7m A document shared on the nyc.gov reads that, It is illegal for a persons employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use derogatory or offensive terms to intimidate, humiliate, or degrade people, including by using the term illegal alien, where its use is intended to demean, humiliate, or offend another person. So it's basically in line with existing anti-discrimination language in those regards --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928084626] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>This applies to employment and renting cases, not just randos on the street: https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/relationships/nyc-bans-calling-someone-an-illegal-alien-of-out-hate/ar-AAHWq7m <quote>A document shared on the nyc.gov reads that, It is illegal for a persons employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use derogatory or offensive terms to intimidate, humiliate, or degrade people, including by using the term illegal alien, where its use is intended to demean, humiliate, or offend another person.</quote> So it's basically in line with existing anti-discrimination language in those regards</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/28/19 11:33:50 PM #17:	Rika_Furude posted... Hexenherz posted... Rika_Furude posted... "illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law. https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too. Interesting. I change my statement from "the correct legal term" to "a correct legal term". Fair enough lol --- FFXIV: Herzog Erislieb (Cactaur) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing. 89 Thieving, 80 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:928084725] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>"illegal alien" is the correct legal term though. So this ban is in violation of the law.</quote> https://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2018/may/09/steve-mccraw/illegal-alien-legal-term-federal-law/ It's a term that's used sparingly throughout certain federal laws and statues but it's never actually defined and it's not necessarily as common as other terms. "Alien" already means any non-US citizen or national, too.</quote> Interesting. I change my statement from "the correct legal term" to "a correct legal term".</quote> Fair enough lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 09/28/19 11:42:11 PM #18:	Can you get fined for dropping the n-bomb in NYC? --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:928084971] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Can you get fined for dropping the n-bomb in NYC?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 09/28/19 11:44:15 PM #19:	iPhone_7 posted... If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate. It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:928085036] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate.</quote> It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/28/19 11:45:32 PM #20:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Can you get fined for dropping the n-bomb in NYC? Intro2Logic posted... It is illegal for a persons employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use derogatory or offensive terms to intimidate, humiliate, or degrade people, --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928085080] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Can you get fined for dropping the n-bomb in NYC?</quote> Intro2Logic posted...</cite> <quote>It is illegal for a persons employer, coworkers, or housing provider such as landlords to use derogatory or offensive terms to intimidate, humiliate, or degrade people,</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 09/28/19 11:47:10 PM #21:	so if you just say illegal instead of illegal alien that solves the problem. i think illegal actually sounds a lot worse tbh. --- Currently playing: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (xbox 360) <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:928085135] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>so if you just say illegal instead of illegal alien that solves the problem. i think illegal actually sounds a lot worse tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/28/19 11:47:47 PM #22:	Hop103 posted... iPhone_7 posted... If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate. It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals. The only reason to call ICE on undocumented Americans is out of hatred --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:928085155] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate.</quote> It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals.</quote> The only reason to call ICE on undocumented Americans is out of hatred</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 09/28/19 11:49:47 PM #23:	iPhone_7 posted... Hop103 posted... iPhone_7 posted... If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate. It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals. The only reason to call ICE on illegal aliens is out of hatred factually incorrect. it's far better for resources to be allocated to legal citizens rather than to illegal aliens --- https://imgur.com/oQHLBrx https://imgur.com/ah5IE8D https://imgur.com/USV84z9 https://imgur.com/PSjlohO <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:928085219] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite> <quote>If motivated by hate The only reason to threaten to call ICE would be out of hate.</quote> It's not hate to call ICE as long as you are 100% sure you found illegals.</quote> The only reason to call ICE on illegal aliens is out of hatred</quote> factually incorrect. it's far better for resources to be allocated to legal citizens rather than to illegal aliens</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 09/29/19 1:34:47 AM #24:	RebelElite791 posted... Kein Mensch ist illegal --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:928087939] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>RebelElite791 posted...</cite> <quote>Kein Mensch ist illegal </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/29/19 1:47:48 AM #25:	Virtue signaling is easier and feels better than real policy --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:928088237] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Virtue signaling is easier and feels better than real policy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 09/29/19 2:24:52 AM #26:	dont know if they do it but a fine like this to people who falsely accuse just by racial profiling isnt a bad idea --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:928089020] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>dont know if they do it but a fine like this to people who falsely accuse just by racial profiling isnt a bad idea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 09/29/19 2:27:53 AM #27:	So Englishman in New York is gonna get Sting in all sorts of shit retroactively? --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:928089069] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>So Englishman in New York is gonna get Sting in all sorts of shit retroactively?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 09/29/19 3:21:55 AM #28:	Im curious about calling someone an illegal alien being a finable offense. Genuinely curious, are there any long-standing prohibitions on language in the US? I feel like, outside of harassment, or enhancing another crime to a hate crime, this wouldnt last very long given the countrys treatment of free speech. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:928090079] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>Im curious about calling someone an illegal alien being a finable offense. Genuinely curious, are there any long-standing prohibitions on language in the US? I feel like, outside of harassment, or enhancing another crime to a hate crime, this wouldnt last very long given the countrys treatment of free speech.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 09/29/19 4:49:14 AM #29:	How is that offensive to someone if theyre actually illegal? Waaaah feeeeeeeelings <cite>gamer167 posted [p:928091351] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>How is that offensive to someone if theyre actually illegal? Waaaah feeeeeeeelings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 09/29/19 7:29:17 AM #30:	AlisLandale posted... Im curious about calling someone an illegal alien being a finable offense. Genuinely curious, are there any long-standing prohibitions on language in the US? I feel like, outside of harassment, or enhancing another crime to a hate crime, this wouldnt last very long given the countrys treatment of free speech. There are limits to how employers and landlords can treat their workers and tenants, which is what this is. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:928093316] in NYC bans y... [t:78049107]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>Im curious about calling someone an illegal alien being a finable offense. Genuinely curious, are there any long-standing prohibitions on language in the US? I feel like, outside of harassment, or enhancing another crime to a hate crime, this wouldnt last very long given the countrys treatment of free speech.</quote> There are limits to how employers and landlords can treat their workers and tenants, which is what this is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > NYC bans you from saying 'Illegal Aliens' and can fine you $250,000