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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 4:53:15 PM
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1. There's no way to know if a post got a NWD unless you try and mark it, so if someone sees the post that got NWD'd and it didn't get deleted, they're not going to know the post broke the rules.

2. You can't dispute them, which may not seem like a big deal, until you realize...

3. Being unable to dispute them means you are unable to accept them, which means they stay on your history for a full 3 weeks instead of 7 days. "so what?", well, that means it'll count against you for future moderation for 3 weeks. Due to this, getting an NKL, or even arguably a warning, despite both being used for more severe violations than NWDs, end up being far less punishing than NWDs are, because you can accept warnings and NKLs and have them off your history in 7 days.
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HANGtheDJ_86
09/30/19 4:55:02 PM
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Yeeeah

This implementation is pretty questionable
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 4:56:38 PM
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4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"
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Smallville
09/30/19 4:58:38 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"

idk, on hellhole? the topic might just get locked after a nasty comment or something
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:01:08 PM
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Smallville posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"

idk, on hellhole? the topic might just get locked after a nasty comment or something


Well this scenario happened to me and I saw it happen to another user.

I suspect the truth is mods cannot actually remove nwds, but that goes into the argument of a poor implementation.
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:07:16 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Trolls will never be happy no matter how they enforce the rules

Hey shock, nice to see you're still sticking to your old system of posting in my topics to completely ignore all points I make and just call me a troll.
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Smallville
09/30/19 5:08:44 PM
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were you suspended or something? that's why you're making this topic?
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:09:30 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Look at that guilty conscience

shookthemonkey
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:09:57 PM
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Smallville posted...
were you suspended or something? that's why you're making this topic?

No but I have two NWDs in my history that should have been gone by now.
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:10:02 PM
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Shock claims to follow the rules and yet he is caught flaming...
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Smallville
09/30/19 5:10:48 PM
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you have 2 nwds? for an account so low?
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Smallville
09/30/19 5:11:22 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?
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ModLogic
09/30/19 5:11:28 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"
mods are just US cops lite free version

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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:12:22 PM
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Smallville posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?

Being tagged makes shock really really really really upset for some reason
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:12:45 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that


No one itt tagged you.

Quite odd.

Why would you make this post?
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/30/19 5:12:49 PM
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Maybe try not breaking the rules
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bover_87
09/30/19 5:13:21 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that
@shockthemonkey he didn't tag you, you came in here of your own accord. Maybe you should not enter his topics if your only goal is to whine about geno?

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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:14:14 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
Maybe try not breaking the rules

The point is that the supposed "lesser" punishment is far more punishing than more severe punishments.

It's like if, in real life, if someone got arrested for shoplifting and got sentenced to 5 years in prison, and another person got arrested for armed robbery and got 1 year in prison
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Smallville
09/30/19 5:14:21 PM
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TheGreatGeno6 posted...
Smallville posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?

Being tagged makes shock really really really really upset for some reason

but doesn't being tagged, do nothing? except tell the person that they were tagged?
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/30/19 5:14:58 PM
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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

The point is that the supposed "lesser" punishment is far more punishing than more severe punishments.

You'd get no punishments if you'd post without breaking the rules
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:15:01 PM
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bover_87 posted...
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

@shockthemonkey he didn't tag you, you came in here of your own accord. Maybe you should not enter his topics if your only goal is to whine about geno?

Maybe he enjoys making a fool out of himself
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:15:41 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
TheGreatGeno6 posted...

The point is that the supposed "lesser" punishment is far more punishing than more severe punishments.

You'd get no punishments if you'd post without breaking the rules

That's not the point, but you know that and you're just being deliberately obtuse, so there's no point in continuing to respond to you
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:15:59 PM
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Welp geno, he gonna mark you for tagging him now.

He baited you.

He claims to uphold the rules and yet he is trolling like that.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/30/19 5:17:17 PM
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TheGreatGeno6 posted...

That's not the point, but you know that and you're just being deliberately obtuse, so there's no point in continuing to respond to you

So you are aware that you constantly violate the rules but complain
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:18:05 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Welp geno, he gonna mark you for tagging him now.

He baited you.

He claims to uphold the rules and yet he is trolling like that.

That wasn't me that tagged him lol

But using the tag system isn't against the rules anyway no matter how angry it makes him. If he doesn't want to be tagged he can disable them in the settings menu
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bover_87
09/30/19 5:18:33 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Welp geno, he gonna mark you for tagging him now.

He baited you.

He claims to uphold the rules and yet he is trolling like that.
He posted in here without anyone tagging him, so tagging him is 100% within the rules.

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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:18:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Smallville posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?

I dont know, Geno and bover always tag me when Genos melting down

As I said, if being tagged bothers you on such a deep personal level, then turn them off.

Or, ya know, man the fuck up and get over it.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
09/30/19 5:19:44 PM
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Hmm it's like people purposely break the rules just to complain
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:21:06 PM
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TheGreatGeno6 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Welp geno, he gonna mark you for tagging him now.

He baited you.

He claims to uphold the rules and yet he is trolling like that.

That wasn't me that tagged him lol

But using the tag system isn't against the rules anyway no matter how angry it makes him. If he doesn't want to be tagged he can disable them in the settings menu


I got hit with an nwd for this before.

Someone told me not to tag them.

I tagged someone else.

Got modded.

So you are wrong.

Infact, this is the nwd where lead admitted it was in error lmao.

Literally modded for tagging someone who never asked me to not tag them.lol

Point is, he baited you.
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Valjackal
09/30/19 5:23:17 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Smallville posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"

idk, on hellhole? the topic might just get locked after a nasty comment or something


Well this scenario happened to me and I saw it happen to another user.

I suspect the truth is mods cannot actually remove nwds, but that goes into the argument of a poor implementation.

It's not really a secret that there's nothing we can do about NWDs. I wish we could, but for now that's where we're at.
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:23:41 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
TheGreatGeno6 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Smallville posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?

I dont know, Geno and bover always tag me when Genos melting down

As I said, if being tagged bothers you on such a deep personal level, then turn them off.

Or, ya know, man the fuck up and get over it.

Ok

It's just funny how much you abuse the word meltdown though. Like I could not have posted the points in the OP in a calmer, more civil way. Is there a reason you always think I'm angry or is it just your way of trying to make me angry? If it's the latter, I'd highly recommend another method.
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:24:21 PM
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@Valjackal posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
Smallville posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
4. You can argue in hellhole proving the nwd was made in error, have a lead mod admit it and they will not remove it saying "so what, it is an nwd, get over it!"

idk, on hellhole? the topic might just get locked after a nasty comment or something


Well this scenario happened to me and I saw it happen to another user.

I suspect the truth is mods cannot actually remove nwds, but that goes into the argument of a poor implementation.

It's not really a secret that there's nothing we can do about NWDs. I wish we could, but for now that's where we're at.

Well, you could always just NKL all posts that otherwise would have gotten an NWD
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:25:09 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
TheGreatGeno6 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
TheGreatGeno6 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Smallville posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Dont tag me, since youre half a meltdown away from doing that

i've seen this before, but why would someone tag someone? what do they get out of it?

I dont know, Geno and bover always tag me when Genos melting down

As I said, if being tagged bothers you on such a deep personal level, then turn them off.

Or, ya know, man the fuck up and get over it.

Ok

It's just funny how much you abuse the word meltdown though. Like I could not have posted the points in the OP in a calmer, more civil way. Is there a reason you always think I'm angry or is it just your way of trying to make me angry? If it's the latter, I'd highly recommend another method.

Ok

Oh I see, we're already at the part where you run out of steam and shut down unable to post anything more than one liners.

See ya in the next topic buddy, looking forward to it
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darkphoenix181
09/30/19 5:28:13 PM
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Valjackal posted...
It's not really a secret that there's nothing we can do about NWDs. I wish we could, but for now that's where we're at.


I figured it but mods I askes before didn't care to confirm.

Ty for confirming.
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TheGreatGeno6
09/30/19 5:28:15 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Geno: I didnt tag you
My mentions: EQaS9bs

Bover tagged you, I quoted the tag.
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09/30/19 5:35:23 PM
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Pogo_Marimo
09/30/19 5:43:05 PM
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Lmfao

They're literal NWD.

They're just little notes saying "Hey buddy, you're crossing the line a bit".

Chill out or go partake in your city's government if you care about garbage this absolutely asinine and meaningless.
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Tmaster148
09/30/19 5:45:02 PM
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It's really a certain group of users going around complaining about moderations. It's rather sad.
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SSJKirby
09/30/19 5:52:38 PM
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As someone who doesnt break the rules, what's a nwd

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Lairen
09/30/19 5:54:48 PM
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Its funny, i can make alts and shitpost forever or cry about nwds on my only account....
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