Poll of the Day > So Apparently It's Now Illegal To Say "Illegal Alien" In New York

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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:03:40 PM
#152:


Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
My coworkers keep showing me memes making fun of white people. I feel harrassed. Make legislation please. I cant go to HR. I need legislation

This is literally one of the things HR is for

Lol yeah that's my point. This legislation is unnecessary because if you're being harassed in the workplace you've got outlets
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Mead
10/01/19 3:03:47 PM
#153:


Lets boo hoo about the oppression towards bigotry all the way to 500
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:03:48 PM
#154:


EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:04:06 PM
#155:


EvilMegas posted...
Yeah, cause they did that with the N-word.


Right? I mean, you totally get arrested for saying that.

Gay slurs too. If you use them one time in your thoughts, police show up and arrest you.

The Illuminati uses the vaccines to read your thoughts. And the fluoride in your water makes you more compliant.
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:04:46 PM
#156:


kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
EvilMegas posted...
I also like that ohhja is claiming this will somehow lead to like a total censorship lead by Steven Richards or some shit.

You mean like how the tech giants started with just Alex Jones and then eventually moved on to banning pretty much everyone that speaks out against the establishment or talks about any popular conspiracy theories?


Alex Jones propagated a conspiracy theory that lead to death threats toward the parents of murdered children. Please provide the list of other banned entities and we can discuss those too.

Yeah but he said all that around when sandy hook happened. He got retroactively banned for stuff he said more than 5 years ago. As far as I know, that isnt part of their ToS
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:05:27 PM
#157:


DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.


How many times in your life have you called somebody that to their face? Or even in the presence of a person you thought was illegal?
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:05:36 PM
#158:


kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?
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Cacciato
10/01/19 3:06:29 PM
#159:


OhhhJa posted...
Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
My coworkers keep showing me memes making fun of white people. I feel harrassed. Make legislation please. I cant go to HR. I need legislation

This is literally one of the things HR is for

Lol yeah that's my point. This legislation is unnecessary because if you're being harassed in the workplace you've got outlets

But the reason its HRs responsibility is because of previous legislation...
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:07:17 PM
#160:


kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Specifically in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations. New York City has declared using the phrase illegal alien can be considered workplace harassment even if talking about illegal immigrants in general and not referring to any particular employees, if an employee becomes afraid from possible discrimination.

Go back to your country, threatening to call ICE, and other similar phrases could also constitute harassment even if the immigration status of an unlawful immigrant is not in dispute.



Fun times living without the First Amendment.

https://reason.com/2019/09/30/new-york-city-illegal-aliens-fine-free-speech/


You know your description isn't very good. I thought this was just a "You can get fired for this" but no this is actually new york blatantly violating the first amendment.


Its not though, as workplace harassment isnt covered under your first amendment rights.


Well yea... but first amendment only applies to government penalties. TC kept talking about workplace so it sounded like it was just someone getting fired and then losing when he sued his workplace.

But no, it's actually the government making an unconstitutional law.


Its not unconstitutional. Harassing somebody in the work place is not covered under Free Speech.

It's also not the government's job to tell you that you cant say certain words in the workplace. Or anywhere for that matter. That would be the company's job. Death threats, libel, etc are a different story
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:07:41 PM
#161:


Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
My coworkers keep showing me memes making fun of white people. I feel harrassed. Make legislation please. I cant go to HR. I need legislation

This is literally one of the things HR is for

Lol yeah that's my point. This legislation is unnecessary because if you're being harassed in the workplace you've got outlets

But the reason its HRs responsibility is because of previous legislation...

And harrassment is covered so... what's your point
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:09:06 PM
#162:


kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.


How many times in your life have you called somebody that to their face? Or even in the presence of a person you thought was illegal?


Well, I called a guy who stole something a thief to their face, and someone who killed someone a murderer to their face. It's just noun and adjective?

I mean, I called a man who makes food a cook, too.

I - REALLY - don't understand what's offensive. I mean it from my heart. I met an illegal alien once, from Bolivia, and we actually had a laugh when we talked about his legal status.
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:13:06 PM
#163:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?

Dude, I cannot believe you would post such a stupid lie one here. I just can't lol
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deoxxys
10/01/19 3:13:31 PM
#164:


I dont want to bother reading this whole topic but the first page is obvious.

I side with calling illegal aliens, illegal aliens.
I dont think anyone is legitimately calling someone an illegal alien to their face, that would be rude.

I mean but it shouldnt effect you at work anyway, how often are you speaking with a co-worker on immigration?

But that would be bullshit if you got a 250k fine over disscussing immigration with someone and you were overheard saying "illegal alien", thats too far.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:13:55 PM
#165:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.


How many times in your life have you called somebody that to their face? Or even in the presence of a person you thought was illegal?


Well, I called a guy who stole something a thief to their face, and someone who killed someone a murderer to their face. It's just noun and adjective?

I mean, I called a man who makes food a cook, too.

I - REALLY - don't understand what's offensive. I mean it from my heart. I met an illegal alien once, from Bolivia, and we actually had a laugh when we talked about his legal status.


You dont understand how calling somebody who is a legal immigrant an illegal immigrant and telling them to go back to their country, would be offensive?
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:14:14 PM
#166:


EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?

Dude, I cannot believe you would post such a stupid lie one here. I just can't lol


Can you tell me why?

Calling me a liar without proof is offensive AND illegal, though.
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:15:11 PM
#167:


"The weather sure is nice."

"Hey, what's your immigration status? "
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:15:44 PM
#168:


OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Specifically in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations. New York City has declared using the phrase illegal alien can be considered workplace harassment even if talking about illegal immigrants in general and not referring to any particular employees, if an employee becomes afraid from possible discrimination.

Go back to your country, threatening to call ICE, and other similar phrases could also constitute harassment even if the immigration status of an unlawful immigrant is not in dispute.



Fun times living without the First Amendment.

https://reason.com/2019/09/30/new-york-city-illegal-aliens-fine-free-speech/


You know your description isn't very good. I thought this was just a "You can get fired for this" but no this is actually new york blatantly violating the first amendment.


Its not though, as workplace harassment isnt covered under your first amendment rights.


Well yea... but first amendment only applies to government penalties. TC kept talking about workplace so it sounded like it was just someone getting fired and then losing when he sued his workplace.

But no, it's actually the government making an unconstitutional law.


Its not unconstitutional. Harassing somebody in the work place is not covered under Free Speech.

It's also not the government's job to tell you that you cant say certain words in the workplace. Or anywhere for that matter. That would be the company's job. Death threats, libel, etc are a different story


Here we go again. So lets say the person who owns the company starts calling a female employee saggy tits. Thats ok with you?
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:16:21 PM
#169:


DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?

Dude, I cannot believe you would post such a stupid lie one here. I just can't lol


Can you tell me why?

Calling me a liar without proof is offensive AND illegal, though.

It's not, especially since you fucking lied.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:17:14 PM
#170:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?


Are you frequently wondering about the immigration status of your coworkers?
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:17:35 PM
#171:


kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.


How many times in your life have you called somebody that to their face? Or even in the presence of a person you thought was illegal?


Well, I called a guy who stole something a thief to their face, and someone who killed someone a murderer to their face. It's just noun and adjective?

I mean, I called a man who makes food a cook, too.

I - REALLY - don't understand what's offensive. I mean it from my heart. I met an illegal alien once, from Bolivia, and we actually had a laugh when we talked about his legal status.


You dont understand how calling somebody who is a legal immigrant an illegal immigrant and telling them to go back to their country, would be offensive?


"Illegal immigrant", no, I don't. That's just a fact. A quality. A situation. Like green, or hungry, or wet.

"Go back to their country" might be unpleasant and rude, and I would never say that to someone, but offensive? No, I don't think so.

Respectfully, I think you guys aren't quite sure of the meaning of the word "offensive" here.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:19:30 PM
#172:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.

You're being obtuse on purpose.

There is no reason a normal citizen should ever have to use the term "illegal alien".

I think the bill is stupid, but I love to see people spin webs about how this is going to ruin america because they think they can't still randomly assume some Hispanic guy is an illegal immigrant.


I swear I'm being honest. I'm not "being obtuse on purpose".

Also, I'm from South America. If you come to my country illegally, I'll still call you a illegal alien, because, quite simply, that's what you would be.

I really fail to understand what's wrong with that.


How many times in your life have you called somebody that to their face? Or even in the presence of a person you thought was illegal?


Well, I called a guy who stole something a thief to their face, and someone who killed someone a murderer to their face. It's just noun and adjective?

I mean, I called a man who makes food a cook, too.

I - REALLY - don't understand what's offensive. I mean it from my heart. I met an illegal alien once, from Bolivia, and we actually had a laugh when we talked about his legal status.


You dont understand how calling somebody who is a legal immigrant an illegal immigrant and telling them to go back to their country, would be offensive?


"Illegal immigrant", no, I don't. That's just a fact. A quality. A situation. Like green, or hungry, or wet.

"Go back to their country" might be unpleasant and rude, and I would never say that to someone, but offensive? No, I don't think so.

Respectfully, I think you guys aren't quite sure of the meaning of the word "offensive" here.


Lmao. Im going to give you one more chance at this one. You are really telling me you dont think calling a person who is here legally an illegal alien and telling them to go back to their country wouldnt hurt anybodys feelings?
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:19:33 PM
#173:


"I don't think it is, so it isnt"
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:20:53 PM
#174:


EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
If you're from a different country, you're an alien.
If you came in illegally, you're illegal.

Can't understand what's insulting or offensive about facts. It's just proper nomenclature.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with race. An illegal norwegian is still illegal.


How do you know the persons immigration status?


If I was interested in it, I'd ask him or find out somehow. Why?

Dude, I cannot believe you would post such a stupid lie one here. I just can't lol


Can you tell me why?

Calling me a liar without proof is offensive AND illegal, though.

It's not, especially since you fucking lied.


I'm sorry, I'm too old to play "You did!", "Did too!", "Did not!", "Did too!", so if you excuse me, think whatever you want.
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:26:34 PM
#175:


But not too old to lie on message boards and try and trill
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adjl
10/01/19 3:31:07 PM
#176:


aDirtyShisno posted...
adjl posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
darkknight109 posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Fun times living without the First Amendment.

The first amendment has never protected harassment, libel, slander, threats, or other such forms of harmful speech. It's not a "I can say whatever I want, whenever I want, with zero consequences" get-out-of-jail-free card.

But it did protect from banning words. Until now, at least in New York City it doesnt.

Intent is required for harassment. Using a word you dont like doesnt itself prove intent, especially when that word is the definition of an object. That object being an immigrant who has entered the country unlawfully.


This is literally just saying "for those of you who haven't figured it out yet, telling coworkers to go back to their own country is generally going to constitute harassment." It has always been harassment, it's just become necessary to spell it out thanks to a bunch of racists that have been emboldened by Trump.

Completely ignoring that my entire point was about illegal alien and not go back to your country I see...



What's the difference?
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:33:41 PM
#177:


@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:33:44 PM
#178:


kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
kangolcone posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
aDirtyShisno posted...
Specifically in the workplace, housing, and public accommodations. New York City has declared using the phrase illegal alien can be considered workplace harassment even if talking about illegal immigrants in general and not referring to any particular employees, if an employee becomes afraid from possible discrimination.

Go back to your country, threatening to call ICE, and other similar phrases could also constitute harassment even if the immigration status of an unlawful immigrant is not in dispute.



Fun times living without the First Amendment.

https://reason.com/2019/09/30/new-york-city-illegal-aliens-fine-free-speech/


You know your description isn't very good. I thought this was just a "You can get fired for this" but no this is actually new york blatantly violating the first amendment.


Its not though, as workplace harassment isnt covered under your first amendment rights.


Well yea... but first amendment only applies to government penalties. TC kept talking about workplace so it sounded like it was just someone getting fired and then losing when he sued his workplace.

But no, it's actually the government making an unconstitutional law.


Its not unconstitutional. Harassing somebody in the work place is not covered under Free Speech.

It's also not the government's job to tell you that you cant say certain words in the workplace. Or anywhere for that matter. That would be the company's job. Death threats, libel, etc are a different story


Here we go again. So lets say the person who owns the company starts calling a female employee saggy tits. Thats ok with you?

How do you guys keep missing this point? Ffs

No but companies are able to deal with that without having to outlaw the words "saggy tits" at work. It's called harrassment. Should we outlaw every word in the workplace that hurts someone feelings?
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Peterass
10/01/19 3:35:25 PM
#179:


kangolcone posted...
Lmao. Im going to give you one more chance at this one. You are really telling me you dont think calling a person who is here legally an illegal alien and telling them to go back to their country wouldnt hurt anybodys feelings?


Sure that would be offensive.

But when the person has entered a country illegally, and they are referred to as an illegal alien, why would anyone be offended? They are an alien to the country, and there illegally.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:36:24 PM
#180:


OhhhJa posted...
Many words


If the boss is doing the harassment and there is no government oversight because its also not the governments job then what recourse should old saggy tits use?
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Cacciato
10/01/19 3:37:24 PM
#181:


OhhhJa posted...
Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Cacciato posted...
OhhhJa posted...
My coworkers keep showing me memes making fun of white people. I feel harrassed. Make legislation please. I cant go to HR. I need legislation

This is literally one of the things HR is for

Lol yeah that's my point. This legislation is unnecessary because if you're being harassed in the workplace you've got outlets

But the reason its HRs responsibility is because of previous legislation...

And harrassment is covered so... what's your point

That this legislation adds illegal alien to the list of terms...

Do you really not understand this?
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:37:31 PM
#182:


kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Many words


If the boss is doing the harassment and there is no government oversight because its also not the governments job then what recourse should old saggy tits use?

I guess we outlaw the words saggy tits in the workplace. Is that really what you're getting at? Lmao. Freedom of speech is doomed
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:38:23 PM
#183:


DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:39:31 PM
#184:


OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Many words


If the boss is doing the harassment and there is no government oversight because its also not the governments job then what recourse should old saggy tits use?

I guess we outlaw the words saggy tits in the workplace. Is that really what you're getting at? Lmao. Freedom of speech is doomed


Im asking if the government has no place in the discussion what is the recourse?
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Noop_Noop
10/01/19 3:42:16 PM
#185:


kangolcone posted...
Noop_Noop posted...
kangolcone posted...
Yes, here is my inconsistent scale.

Massive protests in the worlds largest country are more important than newly passed guidelines for a work place in 1 city that havent even been challenged in court yet.

Wildly inconsistent.


yeah, but youre just ignoring the part thats inconsistent. the part that involved YOUR OWN WORDS homie. the part where you said it this wouldnt effect someone, so they shouldnt care about it.

do you live in hong kong? do you live in china? have your personally been a victim of chinese authoritarianism? then why do you care? it doesnt effect you.


Can you find me the exact quote you are referencing? Im sure its in there but if you are going to state YOUR OWN WORDS I would like the specific words you are referencing.

Very late edit: I would also argue that since China plays such a large role in the US economy, what transpires over there very much effects me.


Aww look at you slip sliding those goalposts now that you know you're caught up.

Also lol

kangolcone posted...
Lmfao. Something that will literally never impact your life at all


It's literally the first post you made in the topic. Not that I expect you to read it since reading and understanding your own words seems to be a serious struggle for you.
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:45:04 PM
#186:


kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Many words


If the boss is doing the harassment and there is no government oversight because its also not the governments job then what recourse should old saggy tits use?

I guess we outlaw the words saggy tits in the workplace. Is that really what you're getting at? Lmao. Freedom of speech is doomed


Im asking if the government has no place in the discussion what is the recourse?

Get some thick skin or get another job I guess. Not to mention, this law does nothing to stop that as the boss in question can just harass them in a similar, related manner that skirts the law. And if you're an illegal immigrant then you and the boss arent following the law anyway. If you arent illegal, then take it to social media where you will make a complete ass of them
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:46:42 PM
#187:


kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:46:42 PM
#188:


For a guy that works with and is supposedly cool with Hispanics, Ohh really doesn't like his hate speech about them being taken away.
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OhhhJa
10/01/19 3:50:07 PM
#189:


EvilMegas posted...
For a guy that works with and is supposedly cool with Hispanics, Ohh really doesn't like his hate speech about them being taken away.

"Supposedly"

Lol. "I disagree with him so he must be lying about his life!" Grow up
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:50:27 PM
#190:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?

No, they totally made this bill up for no reason.
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 3:52:14 PM
#191:


OhhhJa posted...
EvilMegas posted...
For a guy that works with and is supposedly cool with Hispanics, Ohh really doesn't like his hate speech about them being taken away.

"Supposedly"

Lol. "I disagree with him so he must be lying about his life!" Grow up

Yup, you've sure showed me otherwise in this topic and every other one you've posted in.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:54:06 PM
#192:


DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?


I make no such assumption but thats literally all the law says. Says you cant use that language to harass a coworker Im New York City.

Ive said other people have made valid points about the legislation. But the law itself only provides for prohibition of these terms when used to harass a coworker or tenant in public housing.
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SunWuKung420
10/01/19 3:55:50 PM
#193:


Can we use this law to impeach trump?
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:57:16 PM
#194:


OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
kangolcone posted...
OhhhJa posted...
Many words


If the boss is doing the harassment and there is no government oversight because its also not the governments job then what recourse should old saggy tits use?

I guess we outlaw the words saggy tits in the workplace. Is that really what you're getting at? Lmao. Freedom of speech is doomed


Im asking if the government has no place in the discussion what is the recourse?

Get some thick skin or get another job I guess. Not to mention, this law does nothing to stop that as the boss in question can just harass them in a similar, related manner that skirts the law. And if you're an illegal immigrant then you and the boss arent following the law anyway. If you arent illegal, then take it to social media where you will make a complete ass of them


Ok, so now the get another job argument.

At least you are honest in that you really dont believe the government should have any legislation on the subject and work place harassment should be legal.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:57:40 PM
#195:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Can we use this law to impeach trump?


No because its no fiscally responsible.
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 3:58:27 PM
#196:


EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?

No, they totally made this bill up for no reason.


Dude, first of all, if a person call someone that they aren't (even more if it's something against the law), that's slander! It's like calling someone a thief when they aren't or if you don't know if they are. You can be sued. There's no need for new laws, laws already exist in that regard.

The bill exists because, supposedly, calling a KNOWN illegal alien an illegal alien is offensive. It's like, you see me going into your house, steal your stuff, and you can't call me a thief because it's going to... Hurt my feelings...? Seriously?
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kangolcone
10/01/19 3:59:43 PM
#197:


DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?

No, they totally made this bill up for no reason.


Dude, first of all, if a person call someone that they aren't (even more if it's something against the law), that's slander! It's like calling someone a thief when they aren't or if you don't know if they are. You can be sued. There's no need for new laws, laws already exist in that regard.

The bill exists because, supposedly, calling a KNOWN illegal alien an illegal alien is offensive. It's like, you see me going into your house, steal your stuff, and you can't call me a thief because it's going to... Hurt my feelings...? Seriously?


Ahh yes, those lawsuits which take absolutely no money or time.
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EvilMegas
10/01/19 4:04:44 PM
#198:


DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?

No, they totally made this bill up for no reason.


Dude, first of all, if a person call someone that they aren't (even more if it's something against the law), that's slander! It's like calling someone a thief when they aren't or if you don't know if they are. You can be sued. There's no need for new laws, laws already exist in that regard.

The bill exists because, supposedly, calling a KNOWN illegal alien an illegal alien is offensive. It's like, you see me going into your house, steal your stuff, and you can't call me a thief because it's going to... Hurt my feelings...? Seriously?

How would you know if a person is somewhere illegally? Please, this I want to hear.
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DrunkRoger
10/01/19 4:06:22 PM
#199:


kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
EvilMegas posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
kangolcone posted...
DrunkRoger posted...
@kangalcone

That's two different things - I'm not talking about "go back to your country". My initial post addressed just "illegal Alien".

And no, for illegal alien, I don't think it's offensive.
I already explained why.

(And sorry, there were too many quotes and gamefaqs told me to trim the message)


You said its not offensive because its a fact. What if its not a fact and you are calling a person born in the US an illegal alien because they are of Mexican origin?


Wait, what...?

So you're assuming that people that are against this legislation want the right to run around like crazy people pointing to all people that they presume have latin ancestry and yell "ILLEGAL ALIEN! ILLEGAL ALIEN!"...?

No, they totally made this bill up for no reason.


Dude, first of all, if a person call someone that they aren't (even more if it's something against the law), that's slander! It's like calling someone a thief when they aren't or if you don't know if they are. You can be sued. There's no need for new laws, laws already exist in that regard.

The bill exists because, supposedly, calling a KNOWN illegal alien an illegal alien is offensive. It's like, you see me going into your house, steal your stuff, and you can't call me a thief because it's going to... Hurt my feelings...? Seriously?


Ahh yes, those lawsuits which take absolutely no money or time.


That's... Totally not the point, man. Everything legal is expensive and slow. Even the new legislation.

The point is:

Calling a KNOWN illegal alien an illegal alien is not offensive.
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kangolcone
10/01/19 4:07:07 PM
#200:


Alright guys. Thanks for helping me pass through a boring day. Im off work now, so I probably wont be looking at this topic again.

Take it easy.
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Krazy_Kirby
10/01/19 4:07:17 PM
#201:


how dare someone not want a criminal working with them
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