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Heroic Bigpun 12/18/19 2:44:08 PM #252: |
neonreaper posted...
So you saved 500 bucksYes. I was wanting to settle to begin with. We just simply ended up on the first resolution i wanted to take. It's not as much as I wanted to settle on but it could definitely have been way worse --- pUnny at his phone. Expect tYpos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uglyface2 12/18/19 5:55:55 PM #253: |
Bad decision. They didn't provide those papers during the discovery period so they should have been inadmissible.
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:11:41 PM #254: |
Punnyz posted...
For the record guys, court fees are a thingLiterally what I said was going to happen, happened. And, the people telling you to do this almost screwed you, but the judge let you settle before the hammer fell. Yeah, color me surprised. Now you could have done all this from the start without wasting all your time on this. And, possibly even settled for lower than you ended up doing so here. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 12/18/19 6:14:54 PM #255: |
I read through this a long ass time ago, but iirc your advice, Corrik, was to literally just pay the amount they were asking. How the hell is that supposed to lead to settling for less?
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ChaosTonyV4 12/18/19 6:16:22 PM #256: |
They literally never provided him the proof they owned the debt until the trial, Corrik. If you would just Google you would see that debt collectors fuck that up literally every day.
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:18:02 PM #257: |
kevwaffles posted...
I read through this a long ass time ago, but iirc your advice, Corrik, was to literally just pay the amount they were asking. How the hell is that supposed to lead to settling for less?No. My advice was to call them and work out an agreement to pay a lower amount and on a favorable payment amount if he knew that he did in fact have an outstanding debt. He could have verified the debt was legit by contacting who he initially owed it to. Then made an agreement with the debtor that was favorable to him. They always agree to settlements to avoid going to court extraneously. In fact, you got lucky they agreed to do a settlement after they had you dead to rights in the court room. Merry Christmas to you there! --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 12/18/19 6:19:31 PM #258: |
Its not his responsibility to track down who actually owns his debt; because it can be bought and sold literally countless times.
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:19:35 PM #259: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
They literally never provided him the proof they owned the debt until the trial, Corrik. If you would just Google you would see that debt collectors fuck that up literally every day. And there was the problem. Taking legal advice from people trying to act like lawyers from googling. Not people who actually have been through the process via their family. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 12/18/19 6:20:28 PM #260: |
Corrik7 posted...
And there was the problem. Taking legal advice from people trying to act like lawyers from googling. Not people who actually have been through the process via their family. I linked websites of actual law offices and the actual Texas Law, but ok --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:21:33 PM #261: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I linked websites of actual law offices and the actual Texas Law, but okThanks for again telling me how googling made you an expert. Save that shit for the politics topic, not in legal situations where people could have gotten burned for money they didn't have to get burned on. Thanks. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 12/18/19 6:23:12 PM #262: |
this IS an interesting lesson though
nothing is set in stone everybody's law experiences are different period it seriously depends on the judge, whos handling it, whos on the other end, etc Some judges may have been like you didn't do what I said, nah son or some will bend the rules as they see fit since they think its necessary or not I will share this experience if someone brings up court situations but now I know to say this worked for other people but didn't for me. I'll be that guy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punnyz 12/18/19 6:24:20 PM #263: |
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Punnyz 12/18/19 6:26:13 PM #264: |
I still wonder why that woman only approached me to settle
that was weird --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 12/18/19 6:27:09 PM #265: |
It still worked, just not the best-case scenario (as per usual with Punny <_<)
Theres literally no way of knowing if the negotiations would have been any better if you settled ahead of time, because the entire thing was already backed by the subpoena. At least now you know for certain they own it and have proof in case someone else comes calling with that same debt. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 12/18/19 6:28:00 PM #266: |
Also yeah, I still think its wildly unfair and wrong that they didnt respond to your request before the actual trial, they had you over a barrel.
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:28:29 PM #267: |
Punnyz posted...
I still wonder why that woman only approached me to settleMost people they had cases for were probably no show default judgments. How many people there actually showed up for it? Most people usually don't if they know they owe it, unless they are hoping for a no show on the other end. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 12/18/19 6:32:37 PM #268: |
Yeah, overwhelming odds are they weren't settling for any less prior to a court date after he's already been served since they were already handling a boatload of other cases. Your advice, Corrik, vastly applies more prior to the state this topic started out at.
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Corrik7 12/18/19 6:36:17 PM #269: |
kevwaffles posted...
Yeah, overwhelming odds are they weren't settling for any less prior to a court date after he's already been served since they were already handling a boatload of other cases. Your advice, Corrik, vastly applies more prior to the state this topic started out at.That is incorrect. They settle literally all the time prior to court dates. Precisely so they don't actually have to go to it/waste time on it/a lawyers time on it. There is obviously a number they wouldn't have settled below for it, but I would venture it is likely lower than the $700 he settled with when his balls were under their hammer. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Bloodstained ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreaper 12/18/19 7:17:07 PM #270: |
objection, speculative
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MartinFF7 12/18/19 7:37:41 PM #271: |
Punnyz posted...
I still wonder why that woman only approached me to settle If they've been at this for a while, maybe they've got a good "read" on what defendants seem persuadable to settle... or seem more likely to put up a fight and are worth dealing with before getting in front of the judge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MawiIe 12/18/19 7:50:20 PM #272: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
It still worked, just not the best-case scenario (as per usual with Punny <_<) Yeah this is the big takeaway here. Pun got screwed, but in a way that really wasn't as bad as it could be. Surprised they actually showed up in court, but I guess they're probably familiar with the judge in the area and knew they could get something if they did. at least it's all over now! --- SantaRPG: Turning "i"s into "l"s since 2008! https://imgur.com/c9koh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Team Rocket Elite 12/18/19 8:52:09 PM #273: |
How bad is your financial situation right now? Will you be able to pay the $700?
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Heroic Bigpun 12/18/19 10:38:50 PM #274: |
My financial situation is not good because one of my cats has been dying and I spent lots of money on a few vet visits and medications
She's better now though, I should update that topic too It was looking like I had to put her down Incombination with that, the court stuff, and my girlfriend going on a break with me, it hasn't been a good few months, y'all --- pUnny at his phone. Expect tYpos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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linid0t 12/18/19 11:03:09 PM #275: |
Heroic Bigpun posted...
My financial situation is not good because one of my cats has been dying and I spent lots of money on a few vet visits and medications Well its definitely a shitty way to close out the decade, but then flipside is that you can start the next one with a somewhat fresh start and possibly new direction ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Drakeryn 12/18/19 11:26:17 PM #276: |
sucks, but at least you did what you could and didn't get a default judgment against you for the full amount
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