Current Events > Kuja is honestly the best Final Fantasy villain *9 spoilers*

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Blue_Inigo
10/05/19 6:48:50 PM
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His motivation is way too real. "I'm gonna die soon so fuck the world tbh". The guy was afraid of dying and mad that the world gave him such a raw deal. He contrasts heavily with Vivi who has a similar fate but accepts his death and enjoys the beauty of his short life.

FF9 is such a good game
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 6:51:52 PM
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Kuja paved the way for Sylvando, so I get it all works out in the end.
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Tonyjaa
10/05/19 6:52:55 PM
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No the best villian would be Kefka.
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Ving_Rhames
10/05/19 6:53:30 PM
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Tonyjaa posted...
No the best villian would be Kefka.


Why?
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 6:54:16 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Tonyjaa posted...
No the best villian would be Kefka.


Why?

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OmegaShinkai
10/05/19 7:05:58 PM
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Exdeath and if you disagree you're wrong
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Questionmarktarius
10/05/19 7:08:30 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
Exdeath and if you disagree you're wrong

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RaptorLC
10/05/19 7:11:59 PM
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Topic title is true. Kuja is easily the best. Then there's every other villain in the series not named Kefka.

And of course Kefka is the absolute dirt worst excuse for a villain in the entire series. I mean, even Sephiroth was better, and he did literally nothing the entire game he was in.

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apolloooo
10/06/19 8:34:02 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Kuja paved the way for Sylvando, so I get it all works out in the end.

nice, darling!
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Ilishe
10/06/19 8:38:43 AM
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Kuja is a good villain, but my favorite FF villain is Ultimecia.

I would make an argument for Vormav too, he was crazy efficient and successful.
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SpiritSephiroth
10/06/19 8:40:31 AM
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I really liked Caius from FF13 and of course Emet-Selch from FF14: Shadowbringers trumps them all.

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SpiritSephiroth
10/06/19 8:41:11 AM
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dr_marble
10/06/19 9:06:31 AM
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It gets hard to compare FF villains since they could only get so much text/expression back in the day
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A_A_Battery
10/06/19 9:20:22 AM
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These stereotypical "I hate love and want to destroy everything!" type anime/JRPG villains are in general very derivative. So I can't really endorse the topic, although FFIX is one of the best if not the best FF game due to the setting and overall package.
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HagenEx
10/06/19 9:26:38 AM
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Not even top 5.
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HagenEx
10/06/19 9:29:29 AM
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Kefka, Ultimecia, Gabranth, Qator Bashtar and Delita are miles ahead of Kuja.
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SpiritSephiroth
10/06/19 9:59:51 AM
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A_A_Battery posted...
These stereotypical "I hate love and want to destroy everything!" type anime/JRPG villains are in general very derivative. So I can't really endorse the topic, although FFIX is one of the best if not the best FF game due to the setting and overall package.


Caius - broken about what he loves and his constant failure to protect, doomed to repeat itself for eternity.

Emet-Selch - Trying to revive his lost friends, family and people who were torn away from him by Hydaelin, a Goddess the main character fights for. Held the weight, anger, sorrow and despair of his people for thousands of years on his own shoulders.

Ardyn - Thrown away like a used item by the Gods and kings of Insomnia. Was potrayed as a betrayer when in fact he was a saviour to his people. Sought out vengeance against the Gods and Noctis family tree. In the end, he got everything he wanted.

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jumi
10/06/19 10:05:52 AM
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HagenEx posted...
Kefka, Ultimecia, Gabranth, Qator Bashtar and Delita are miles ahead of Kuja.


Delita was not a villain.

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Ruvan22
10/06/19 10:07:36 AM
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Wasn't Kuja also the first to sport rope harness shibari outfits?
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Ilishe
10/06/19 1:16:45 PM
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jumi posted...

Delita was not a villain.


He did a lot of villainous things for someone who wasn't a villain though, didn't he?

Betrayed his only friend. Killed his wife. Framed and murdered innocents.

His goals were entirely self-serving. He wanted power and he got it.
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jumi
10/06/19 5:33:40 PM
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Ilishe posted...
He did a lot of villainous things for someone who wasn't a villain though, didn't he?

Betrayed his only friend. Killed his wife. Framed and murdered innocents.

His goals were entirely self-serving. He wanted power and he got it.


The game compares and contrasts Ramza and Delita. Ramza was the hero of the supernatural stuff, Delita was the hero of the war and government intrigue stuff. Delita was loved and celebrated, while Ramza was forgotten.

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Mako_Sharknado
10/06/19 5:36:15 PM
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Garland's my favorite

He's rad af
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Ilishe
10/07/19 1:46:39 AM
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jumi posted...
Ilishe posted...
He did a lot of villainous things for someone who wasn't a villain though, didn't he?

Betrayed his only friend. Killed his wife. Framed and murdered innocents.

His goals were entirely self-serving. He wanted power and he got it.


The game compares and contrasts Ramza and Delita. Ramza was the hero of the supernatural stuff, Delita was the hero of the war and government intrigue stuff. Delita was loved and celebrated, while Ramza was forgotten.


Delita was a Game of Thrones character in Final Fantasy land.
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Leanaunfurled
10/07/19 1:57:06 AM
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My favorite FF villain (and one of my favorite general video game villains) is Ardyn from XV.
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GTurtlte
10/07/19 2:01:32 AM
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Ilishe posted...
jumi posted...
Ilishe posted...
He did a lot of villainous things for someone who wasn't a villain though, didn't he?

Betrayed his only friend. Killed his wife. Framed and murdered innocents.

His goals were entirely self-serving. He wanted power and he got it.


The game compares and contrasts Ramza and Delita. Ramza was the hero of the supernatural stuff, Delita was the hero of the war and government intrigue stuff. Delita was loved and celebrated, while Ramza was forgotten.


Delita was a Game of Thrones character in Final Fantasy land.

Tactics itself was game of thrones before it was known. Look at the other characters backstorys. You got Murder. Rape kidnapping. Political backstabbing betrayl war. Just to name a few
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ultimate reaver
10/07/19 2:02:13 AM
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He is but people will always bring up kefka who is amusing but not much more, or literally-whos with stupid names from the shitty Ivalice games where everyone is identical

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Ilishe
10/07/19 4:16:30 AM
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ultimate reaver posted...
He is but people will always bring up kefka who is amusing but not much more, or literally-whos with stupid names from the shitty Ivalice games where everyone is identical


Shitty Ivalice games?

Lmfao
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SomeLikeItHoth
10/07/19 4:28:34 AM
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He also has the coolest name.
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Rika_Furude
10/07/19 5:19:37 AM
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I haven't played FF9 but that does sound like a fun villain.

FFXVs villain is still the best though no matter your opinion on the game.
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GTurtlte
10/07/19 12:21:05 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I haven't played FF9 but that does sound like a fun villain.

FFXVs villain is still the best though no matter your opinion on the game.

In my opinion. Both are equal
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Jiek_Fafn
10/07/19 12:49:00 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I really liked Caius from FF13 and of course Emet-Selch from FF14: Shadowbringers trumps them all.

This guy knows what's up

Ardyn is cool too but a lot of what makes him so isn't in the base game/the game at all so he doesnt get credit.
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