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TroutPaste
10/11/19 12:15:04 PM
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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:16:09 PM
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TroutPaste posted...
Mods pls close this topic



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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:17:18 PM
#106:


PleaseClap posted...
Hes whining that he got moderated for being transphobic


no you and others failed to understand my debate in this, and it's already reached shitfest levels.

if you all can't learn to not jump to conclusions then these topics shouldn't even be brought up.

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Esrac
10/11/19 12:18:48 PM
#107:


untrustful posted...
Esrac posted...
It can be both.
You can't be genuine and disingenuous about something.


That poster didn't ask if it was disingenuous or genuine. He asked if it was politically orientated or genuine.
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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:20:30 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Youre not making any sense. Theres no reason to be this upset because I dont think we should stop allowing trans people to transition considering how many people have outright stated that transitioning is the only thing that saved their lives and allowed them to be fully functioning members of society.


and I didn't disagree with that, and as much I want to genuinely continue this conversation with you but I'm not getting moderated again.

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COVxy
10/11/19 12:26:32 PM
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Ryuko_Chan posted...
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What does that have to do with my post


Presumably because the whole "transgenderism is fake because of radical constructivism of gender" is a bunch of bollocks.

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Ryuko_Chan
10/11/19 12:27:35 PM
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dude I dont care if people take hrt lol

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mario2000
10/11/19 12:28:21 PM
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How do you plan to help these people, tc?

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PleaseClap
10/11/19 12:30:29 PM
#113:


shockthemonkey posted...
Kaliesto posted...
PleaseClap posted...
Hes whining that he got moderated for being transphobic


no you and others failed to understand my debate in this, and it's already reached shitfest levels.

if you all can't learn to not jump to conclusions then these topics shouldn't even be brought up.

Your argument was that people shouldnt transition.

Would you like to have a conversation about that?

I think his argument was that trans people should just try not being trans

Just turn it off, like a light switch
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COVxy
10/11/19 12:32:50 PM
#114:


Ryuko_Chan posted...
dude I dont care if people take hrt lol


And what does that have to do with any of our exchanges?

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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:32:55 PM
#115:


shockthemonkey posted...
Your argument was that people shouldnt transition.

Would you like to have a conversation about that?


I won't talk about this any further, I'm not getting moderated again please understand.

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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:35:16 PM
#116:


PleaseClap posted...
I think his argument was that trans people should just try not being trans

Just turn it off, like a light switch


No, and I will not explain as I'm not getting moderated again.

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Medussa
10/11/19 12:37:30 PM
#117:


please. stop. talking.

there's something here to learn, if you're willing. but it's painfully clear you're not, so why not just move on.
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karlpilkington4
10/11/19 12:50:57 PM
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Kaliesto posted...
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I won't talk about this any further, I'm not getting moderated again please understand.


Yea, best not to engage with him. It's not worth it
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Kaliesto
10/11/19 12:53:05 PM
#120:


shockthemonkey posted...
Will you just complain that everyone else is wrong and, despite us being able to read your posts, youll accuse everyone of lying about what you said?

Because your stated argument was that people shouldnt transition.


Just stop.

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A_A_Battery
10/11/19 12:56:02 PM
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karlpilkington4
10/11/19 1:00:44 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Kaliesto posted...
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Just stop.

Its so strange how you claim you want to discuss this but are absolutely incapable of discussing this like an adult.


This is rich coming from you. Ironic and rich
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PleaseClap
10/11/19 1:03:41 PM
#124:


Kaliesto posted...
tamagucci posted...
My thoughts are we should really teach everyone to be comfortable in their own skin. No one should feel so off that cutting themselves up for aesthetics is the solution.



Yeah, why havent they just tried being comfortable? It seems like such a simple and obvious solution.
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Quorthon109
10/11/19 1:06:46 PM
#125:


Sad to see that just posting this bullshit article was enough for TC to get what he wanted here.
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Banjo2553
10/11/19 1:14:37 PM
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The only thing this shows is that young people shouldn't be pressured into transitioning if they exhibit gender dysphoria. It's a major decision, something that an adult should make who's absolutely sure about it.
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Number090684
10/11/19 1:21:13 PM
#127:


Banjo2553 posted...
The only thing this shows is that young people shouldn't be pressured into transitioning if they exhibit gender dysphoria. It's a major decision, something that an adult should make who's absolutely sure about it.


There should be a law that prohibits it until the individual is 21. Way too life changing of a decision to be done without enough insight and experience.
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tamagucci
10/11/19 1:43:30 PM
#128:


lmao apparently wanting everyone to be comfortable in their own skins is anti trans. I absolutely am not anti trans.
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/11/19 1:45:26 PM
#129:


Quorthon109 posted...
Sad to see that just posting this bullshit article was enough for TC to get what he wanted here.


that low hanging fruit is all that some folk are here for.
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ColdOne666
10/11/19 6:07:33 PM
#131:


Number090684 posted...
Banjo2553 posted...
The only thing this shows is that young people shouldn't be pressured into transitioning if they exhibit gender dysphoria. It's a major decision, something that an adult should make who's absolutely sure about it.


There should be a law that prohibits it until the individual is 21. Way too life changing of a decision to be done without enough insight and experience.

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COVxy
10/11/19 6:20:32 PM
#132:


Number090684 posted...
There should be a law that prohibits it until the individual is 21. Way too life changing of a decision to be done without enough insight and experience.


Did you become aware of your gender when you turned 21?

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AmericaTheBrave
10/11/19 6:21:37 PM
#133:


Quorthon109 posted...
Sad to see that just posting this bullshit article was enough for TC to get what he wanted here.


What I wanted was a lively debate.
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viewmaster_pi
10/11/19 6:34:19 PM
#134:


tamagucci posted...
lmao apparently wanting everyone to be comfortable in their own skins is anti trans. I absolutely am not anti trans.
There's no way to talk about it unless you just clap and say yay trans people and leave it at that. It's the most aggressively protected subject on the site, so your only option is to ignore threads about it. Anything and everything else is "anti trans" as far as the mods are concerned.

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COVxy
10/11/19 7:06:48 PM
#135:


viewmaster_pi posted...
There's no way to talk about it unless you just clap and say yay trans people and leave it at that. It's the most aggressively protected subject on the site, so your only option is to ignore threads about it. Anything and everything else is "anti trans" as far as the mods are concerned.


Naw, just blatantly anti-trans stuff.

Even Admiral knows how to trash trans people without crossing that line lol

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viewmaster_pi
10/11/19 7:11:39 PM
#136:


COVxy posted...
Naw, just blatantly anti-trans stuff.
i got modded for talking ill of the poster from cyberpunk, lol

certain mods look for shit to get you with

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COVxy
10/11/19 7:13:26 PM
#137:


viewmaster_pi posted...
i got modded for talking ill of the poster from cyberpunk, lol

certain mods look for shit to get you with


You are certainly revealing all the context.

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ColdOne666
10/11/19 7:46:30 PM
#138:


Lot's of shills and boot lickers itt. The mods are completely biased and trigger happy. Everyone know's this.

If you don't follow the same exact political persuasion as them then good luck.
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Iron-Tarkus
10/11/19 7:52:17 PM
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RickyTheBAWSE
10/11/19 9:44:34 PM
#140:


ColdOne666 posted...
Lot's of shills and boot lickers itt. The mods are completely biased and trigger happy. Everyone know's this.

If you don't follow the same exact political persuasion as them then good luck.


dude, chill. it's only GameFAQs. mods aren't cops nor do they work for the government. at least not while on mod duty.
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hockeybub89
10/11/19 9:57:26 PM
#141:


ColdOne666 posted...
Lot's of shills and boot lickers itt. The mods are completely biased and trigger happy. Everyone know's this.

If you don't follow the same exact political persuasion as them then good luck.

Trans people aren't a fucking political position to agree or disagree with. Replace trans people with any other people grouped by inherent characteristics in the sentence "I don't agree with ... " and realize how awful it sounds. It is disgusting that LGBT became a political hot topic just by existing outside of the closet. If you don't support them, then that's a you problem
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hockeybub89
10/11/19 9:59:46 PM
#142:


tamagucci posted...
lmao apparently wanting everyone to be comfortable in their own skins is anti trans. I absolutely am not anti trans.

"Be comfortable in your own skin" is just "Be yourself".

It's a non-statement that is neither prophetic nor motivating to anyone that is actually suffering mental anguish. Who they are is exactly their problem.
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tamagucci
10/11/19 10:55:18 PM
#143:


hockeybub89 posted...
tamagucci posted...
lmao apparently wanting everyone to be comfortable in their own skins is anti trans. I absolutely am not anti trans.

"Be comfortable in your own skin" is just "Be yourself".

It's a non-statement that is neither prophetic nor motivating to anyone that is actually suffering mental anguish. Who they are is exactly their problem.

What are you talking about? I didn't say "be comfortable in your own skin" I said I wish we could teach that. Wanting everyone to be happy with themselves is not the same as telling everyone to be happy with what they have.
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viewmaster_pi
10/11/19 11:16:48 PM
#144:


tamagucci posted...
What are you talking about? I didn't say "be comfortable in your own skin" I said I wish we could teach that. Wanting everyone to be happy with themselves is not the same as telling everyone to be happy with what they have.
you won't get anywhere, the usual suspects will crawl out of the floorboards, act condescending as fuck, and then just try to set you up to be modded. Same shit every time.

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Blue_Dream87
10/11/19 11:32:07 PM
#145:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
how could it be used as ammo?


Late to the party but these topics never change

You know there are people who will rebuke gender confirmation/transitioning and use these few as evidence to get rid of the whole thing. What is it, concern trolling? It's bs to anyone who actually understands that science, but transphobes aren't rational to begin with

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ColdOne666
10/11/19 11:57:14 PM
#146:


Blue_Dream87 posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
how could it be used as ammo?


Late to the party but these topics never change

You know there are people who will rebuke gender confirmation/transitioning and use these few as evidence to get rid of the whole thing. What is it, concern trolling? It's bs to anyone who actually understands that science, but transphobes aren't rational to begin with


Do you always make stuff up?
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tamagucci
10/11/19 11:57:46 PM
#147:


viewmaster_pi posted...
tamagucci posted...
What are you talking about? I didn't say "be comfortable in your own skin" I said I wish we could teach that. Wanting everyone to be happy with themselves is not the same as telling everyone to be happy with what they have.
you won't get anywhere, the usual suspects will crawl out of the floorboards, act condescending as fuck, and then just try to set you up to be modded. Same shit every time.

Yeah I can see that now.
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Squidkids
10/12/19 2:46:27 AM
#148:


what does autism have to do with transgender?
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COVxy
10/12/19 7:16:45 AM
#149:


tamagucci posted...
What are you talking about? I didn't say "be comfortable in your own skin" I said I wish we could teach that. Wanting everyone to be happy with themselves is not the same as telling everyone to be happy with what they have.


Let's just clarify this, because it's worth fleshing out, given the topic.

When you say, you wish we could teach people to be comfortable in their own skin, it's because you don't think that SRS is the right direction, because you believe that these people aren't suffering from a condition where they really are their experienced gender, but rather some other type of psychiatric disorder?

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s0nicfan
10/12/19 8:04:08 AM
#150:


COVxy posted...
tamagucci posted...
What are you talking about? I didn't say "be comfortable in your own skin" I said I wish we could teach that. Wanting everyone to be happy with themselves is not the same as telling everyone to be happy with what they have.


Let's just clarify this, because it's worth fleshing out, given the topic.

When you say, you wish we could teach people to be comfortable in their own skin, it's because you don't think that SRS is the right direction, because you believe that these people aren't suffering from a condition where they really are their experienced gender, but rather some other type of psychiatric disorder?


To further clarify your question, when you say "people suffering from a condition" you were talking about the 0.005% of people who identify as trans who are diagnosed with GID, correct?
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COVxy
10/12/19 8:55:21 AM
#151:


s0nicfan posted...
0.005% of people who identify as trans who are diagnosed with GID


If that statistic is correct, you are misrepresenting what it means.

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s0nicfan
10/12/19 8:57:44 AM
#152:


COVxy posted...
s0nicfan posted...
0.005% of people who identify as trans who are diagnosed with GID


If that statistic is correct, you are misrepresenting what it means.


How so?

Also I just checked and it's slightly off. 0.005% of the population has GID, not that percent of trans people. So about 17,500 people in the US out of an estimated trans population of around 1.6 million, so closer to 0.13%
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