Current Events > Disney has created an AI to ensure that all scripts are woke.

(+) Yeah! (+)

That won't end well for them, say goodbye to good shows and movies.

https://thenextweb.com/tech/2019/10/09/disney-is-using-ai-to-correct-gender-bias-in-its-movies/

Also, by doing this, this is going to increase stereotypes which is something they should be against and also it's impossible to make a decent movie with extensive quotas like this and don't even think about turning in a script for any historical piece, it won't pass this AI.

There's also the issue of China, Disney bows to China because most of their revenue comes from the Chinese box office and China will NOT like this one bit and will probably force it's scrapping because we all know how they feel about woke films. They should've thought this through. Disney is going to be broke if this thing is implemented.
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When you break down classic Disney movies, they usually have very problematic undertones.

Stopped reading.
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The free market has saved us again.

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I legit thought this was an "I created a bot to write a woke Disney script and this is the result" gag.

Anyway, woke Disney is an odd creature to observe. They're going full ham on trying to "correct" past "gender" mistakes, such as Belle now being an inventor and fighting the patriarchy, and Jasmine being a "girl boss", but they're more "conceal past mistakes" on their racial faux pas, like the crows just being fully removed from Dumbo.
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Shut the fuck up and fuck off.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

When you break down classic Disney movies, they usually have very problematic undertones.

Stopped reading.

Lol
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CyricZ posted...

I legit thought this was an "I created a bot to write a woke Disney script and this is the result" gag.

Anyway, woke Disney is an odd creature to observe. They're going full ham on trying to "correct" past "gender" mistakes, such as Belle now being an inventor and fighting the patriarchy, and Jasmine being a "girl boss", but they're more "conceal past mistakes" on their racial faux pas, like the crows just being fully removed from Dumbo.

No amount of wokeness will conceal the fact they made Song of the South so they should just stop with the attempts of revisionist history.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

When you break down classic Disney movies, they usually have very problematic undertones.

Stopped reading.

It's true tho
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Feed Deadpool to the AI, just to see what happens.

CyricZ posted...

I legit thought this was an "I created a bot to write a woke Disney script and this is the result" gag.

Anyway, woke Disney is an odd creature to observe. They're going full ham on trying to "correct" past "gender" mistakes, such as Belle now being an inventor and fighting the patriarchy, and Jasmine being a "girl boss", but they're more "conceal past mistakes" on their racial faux pas, like the crows just being fully removed from Dumbo.

Disney is all corporate woke like every other billion dollar company that wants in on the money. It's only what's on the surface that "matters" to them but in reality no one is fooled by their disingenuous attempts at appropriating progressiveness in film.

Star Wars is the most egregious example of this backfiring hard.
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>good shows and movies.
>Disney

Pick one
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Blue_Inigo posted...

It's true tho

It's not true. None of the classic movies are actually problematic.

coh posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

It's true tho

It's not true. None of the classic movies are actually problematic.

Y'know, I'd bring up the fact that Song of the South has already been mentioned in this topic, but from what I've seen of your posting, I'm pretty sure you've got no issue with that.
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CyricZ posted...

Y'know, I'd bring up the fact that Song of the South has already been mentioned in this topic, but from what I've seen of your posting, I'm pretty sure you've got no issue with that.

That may the exception, but I mean movies like Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty which are movies the SJWs really like to hate for some reason

CyricZ posted...

coh posted...

Blue_Inigo posted...

It's true tho

It's not true. None of the classic movies are actually problematic.

Y'know, I'd bring up the fact that Song of the South has already been mentioned in this topic, but from what I've seen of your posting, I'm pretty sure you've got no issue with that.

Have you even seen the film?

coh posted...

That may the exception

Shit. Clearly I've misread you all this time.
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CyricZ posted...

Shit. Clearly I've misread you all this time.

I haven't seen it so I don't know if it's actually problematic or not

16-BITTER posted...

Whenever I see the word "problematic", I can rest assured that said thing isn't actually a problem

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This cultural attempt to overcorrect for past injustices really needs to stop. If you need an AI to point out issues, then they most likely aren't real issues.

That analysis of Little Mermaid is really off in the opening paragraph. The song isn't about ignoring consent, and the fact that Ariel gives up her voice to chase a man is portrayed as a bad idea. I swear it's like some of the people writing these articles don't want conflicts in stories.
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I mean it's not "Birth of a Nation", but the focal point is setting Song of the South in maybe reconstruction era South and maybe after the Civil War, but the film never really goes into detail on the particulars. Uncle Remus and Aunt Tempy may be gainfully employed at the plantation or they could just be slaves and the fact is that Disney focused on the "lightheartedness" to try to uncomplicate this very complicated scenario.

In essence it's not what the film says, but what the film doesn't say in all its attempts to gloss over a very odd real-life situation.

No one ever says "slave", yet here are a group of black people very happily toiling away in fields for their white "employers".
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thanosibe posted...

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CyricZ posted...

Uncle Remus and Aunt Tempy may be gainfully employed at the plantation or they could just be slaves and the fact is that Disney focused on the "lightheartedness" to try to uncomplicate this very complicated scenario.

Remus was apparently free to leave the plantation at will, thus it's probably not set in the slavery area.

CyricZ posted...

I mean it's not "Birth of a Nation", but the focal point is setting Song of the South in maybe reconstruction era South and maybe after the Civil War, but the film never really goes into detail on the particulars. Uncle Remus and Aunt Tempy may be gainfully employed at the plantation or they could just be slaves and the fact is that Disney focused on the "lightheartedness" to try to uncomplicate this very complicated scenario.

In essence it's not what the film says, but what the film doesn't say in all its attempts to gloss over a very odd real-life situation.

No one ever says "slave", yet here are a group of black people very happily toiling away in fields for their white "employers".

As someone who grew up with this and many other much older Disney films, I don't think anyone would dispute that Song of the South is a borderline product as far as it's potential to be offensive. I think that's why Disney has yet to release it on home video to this day. Honestly the most I can remember about it, was the soundtrack because I had a record of it as a kid.

I would say something like the crows in Dumbo is far more of a bad decision as it still exists and hasn't been changed in anyway. At least that I am aware of it. Are the vultures in Jungle Book British stereotypes? The story I was told as I got older is they were suppose to be caricatures of the Beatles

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thanosibe posted...

I would say something like the crows in Dumbo is far more of a bad decision as it still exists and hasn't been changed in anyway. At least that I am aware of it.

Dumbo has been censored for Disney+
https://www.fastcompany.com/90338895/disney-subtracts-the-studios-racist-movie-history

Questionmarktarius posted...

thanosibe posted...

I would say something like the crows in Dumbo is far more of a bad decision as it still exists and hasn't been changed in anyway. At least that I am aware of it.

Dumbo has been censored for Disney+
https://www.fastcompany.com/90338895/disney-subtracts-the-studios-racist-movie-history

Which is kinda my point, and why this is all so odd.

Disney goes well out of their way to promote how woke they are on the subject of gender bias, but is ghostly silent on the subject of racial bias.
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Hop103 posted...

There's also the issue of China, Disney bows to China because most of their revenue comes from the Chinese box office and China will NOT like this one bit and will probably force it's scrapping because we all know how they feel about woke films. They should've thought this through. Disney is going to be broke if this thing is implemented.

They'll just never show gay characters kiss so they can just say they're good buddies in the chinese version.
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CyricZ posted...

Disney goes well out of their way to promote how woke they are on the subject of gender bias, but is ghostly silent on the subject of racial bias.

"Look at how not-racist we are!" is somehow much more obviously disingenuous than simple wokedness.

Dumbo came out in 1941. Song of the South was 1946. Presumably, every single person who worked on those films are dead. I think it's okay at this point if Disney has moved on.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Dumbo has been censored for Disney+
https://www.fastcompany.com/90338895/disney-subtracts-the-studios-racist-movie-history

Nice to know. I don't remember much about Peter Pan so I can't say what was offensive about it because it wasn't one of my favorite Disney movies as a kid or an adult. But I do like Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp and Aladdin. The former too I can see as possibly a problem. But why isn't Jock offensive as a Scottish stereotype? Or Tony a Italian stereotype? If I remember correctly there were other racial/nationality stereotypes in Aristocats besides the Chinese cats in the Scat Cat band.

I can most assuredly agree the crows in Dumbo were bad decision then and still are now.

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Imagine still watching Disney movies in 2019, and as an adult
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Damn_Underscore posted...

When you break down classic Disney movies, they usually have very problematic undertones.

Stopped reading.

I don't get it. Ever since (arguably) The Little Mermaid, Disney movies have had progressive elements. Why are these people acting like all Disney movies have been racist/sexist until today?
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thanosibe posted...

I don't remember much about Peter Pan so I can't say what was offensive about it

The Indian tribe.
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16-BITTER posted...

Whenever I see the word "problematic", I can rest assured that said thing isn't actually a problem

Song of the South? The Crows in Dumbo?
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thanosibe posted...

Nice to know. I don't remember much about Peter Pan so I can't say what was offensive about it because it wasn't one of my favorite Disney movies as a kid or an adult. But I do like Aristocats, Lady and the Tramp and Aladdin. The former too I can see as possibly a problem. But why isn't Jock offensive as a Scottish stereotype? Or Tony a Italian stereotype? If I remember correctly there were other racial/nationality stereotypes in Aristocats besides the Chinese cats in the Scat Cat band.

I can most assuredly agree the crows in Dumbo were bad decision then and still are now.

Peter Pan had the really racist Native Americans.

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To be honest, I like old problematic movies. Art isn't supposed to be perfect.

Disney making a computer robot to solve this problem is hilarious and deserves everyone's ridicule.
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CyricZ posted...

Which is kinda my point, and why this is all so odd.

Disney goes well out of their way to promote how woke they are on the subject of gender bias, but is ghostly silent on the subject of racial bias.

Would you rather them ignore it and keep distributing it on video/DVD so people can see it? I can bet you almost anyone 30 years or younger has never seen it and only knows what it's about by the discussion of it being controversial. (Not that I am saying it's a bad thing to discuss it.)

s0nicfan posted...

The Indian tribe.

Yeah I kind of remember now. Peter himself even wore a headdress. But yeah not among a favorite of mine at all. So it's probably been 30 years since I watched it.

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I can already picture the default preset that most Disney films will go by if the main character is a white male. The secondary characters will be

- A black actor, if not then Latino
- A light skinned Asian actor, if not then Indian
(But no having both Latino & Indian characters, it will be one or the other)
- The love interest will either be ginger white or non-white light skinned,
- The parents will be an interracial couple & the Dad will be played by The Rock
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disney gets worse and worse
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spudger posted...

disney gets worse and worse

It's their shit to "censor", though.

Questionmarktarius posted...

spudger posted...

disney gets worse and worse

It's their shit to "censor", though.

so? its still worse.
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capitalism will never be woke

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I have no problems with products that are the product of their time. As long as Disney doesn't modernly glorify them, I have no issues.

But I think when you have to really stretch to make some of the classic like say Lion King or Cinderella seem inappropriate, that's when there's a problem
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SerperiorThanU posted...

China is known for being averse to portrayals of race and lgbt and used to have that male only preference for babies (which they obviously regret now) but I dont think they have anything against strong portrayals of women. Stuff like Mulan and Frozen was very well received. If anything, theyre pretty fond of it.

China crucified Mulan. They hated it.
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