Current Events > Marijuana is highly addictive and currently has no medical use

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That's literally what the federal government is saying.
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Which is why State's Rights is cool
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how the fuck is the USA gonna call itself a state and then call its regional divisions states as well
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I mean, they're....a quarter right, I guess? A third? It IS addictive, but I wouldn't say highly addictive, and it has a LOT of medical use.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

how the fuck is the USA gonna call itself a state and then call its regional divisions states as well

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imagine being a slave to a plant
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we really do live in a society LOL
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the federal gov't is often wrong about everything, so...
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That's half right.
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The Admiral posted...

That's half right.

Not quite

Imagine thinking pro-weed people actually care about "medical use" LOL
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OctilIery posted...

I mean, they're....a quarter right, I guess? A third? It IS addictive, but I wouldn't say highly addictive, and it has a LOT of medical use.

Exactly why it's dumb to classify it as a Schedule 1 drug
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deupd_u posted...

Imagine thinking pro-weed people actually care about "medical use" LOL

I don't care what pro-weed people think.

Im strictly talking about how the federal government classifies marijuana.
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"It's not addictive! I can't enjoy my food without smoking a bowl!"

"BUT BUT ANYTHING IS ADDICTIVE!"

It is addictive. That's why you keep smoking it.
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It's not even debatable that it's addictive. There are entire treatment programs designed to combat that.

https://www.smartrecovery.org/marijuana-addiction/
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Half the people in here judging addiction, can't go a full week without fast food.

Im 15 days off weed right now and fine. Luckily that will end later today tho :3
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You guys are focusing on the addiction part and not the medical usage part.
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Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.

From the DEA website.

So if you're saying marijuana has SOME accepted medical use, then it should be reclassified, no?
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Weed is treated like the Boogyman
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lmao it's not addictive. I vaped it every single day with intent to get high for an entire year and quit cold turkey when my gf decided to get clean for a new job. Still clean to save up money and haven't used in 4 months. No adverse affects at all and no difficulty other than what you'd expect from quitting a recreational activity you like to do to relax after work. I've had worse hangs up after having to quit playing video games for a while.

Not saying you cannot get addicted to weed, but weed in of itself is not addictive. A faithful and responsible coffee drinker would have a harder time quitting their drug than a faithful and responsible weed smoker.
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Holy_Pumpkin posted...

lmao it's not addictive. I vaped it every single day with intent to get high for an entire year

::thinking::
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shockthemonkey posted...

Being addictive in the same way CE is addictive is not the same as being chemically addicting in the way alcohol and nicotine are.

Or opioids or whatever adderall is. I can personally vouch for all that
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The medical use is highly overstated, but it does exist.

But the risks are low unless you smoke it a lot, in which case it has similar risks as cigarettes

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Philoktetes posted...

Holy_Pumpkin posted...

lmao it's not addictive. I vaped it every single day with intent to get high for an entire year

::thinking::

Are you going to ignore the rest of my post? lol

I did it because I could afford the luxury and it was a fun activity. Are you going to ridicule a gamer for playing a video game for 30 min every day and be in favor of classifying them as schedule 1 drugs?
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the UN has classified gaming as a disease too now

https://www.who.int/features/qa/gaming-disorder/en/
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As someone that smokes every day and has for like 17 years I can attest that it is addictive (to me). If I don't have it I get insomnia, all kinda GI problems, can't eat, even a malaise type feeling sometimes for a couple days.

But I also quit smoking cigarettes like they were nothing. So I guess individual body chemistries vary.

As far as being medicinal, yes it can be but most people (including myself) are using it for more hedonistic reasons than medicinal but will default to "it helps my isomnia/anxiety/pain/digestion"

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The Admiral posted...

That's half right.

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It is addictive. It's wrong to call it "highly addictive" though, because there are no withdrawals.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

It is addictive. It's wrong to call it "highly addictive" though, because there are no withdrawals.

Alot of people here don't know the difference between wanting to do it again and actual withdrawals.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Being addictive in the same way CE is addictive is not the same as being chemically addicting in the way alcohol and nicotine are.

Just because something isn't chemically addictive doesn't mean you can just sweep the argument off the table. Sex and gambling addiction are no less real than alcoholism.

Holy_Pumpkin posted...

Are you going to ignore the rest of my post? lol

I did it because I could afford the luxury and it was a fun activity. Are you going to ridicule a gamer for playing a video game for 30 min every day and be in favor of classifying them as schedule 1 drugs?

It is proven addictive with proven withdrawal symptom.

The biggest difference between thc and other kinds of addictions is that thc withdrawal often takes weeks / months to kick in. If you smoke weed and cigarettes at the same time and try to quit both at the same time you'll notice your nicotine withdrawal much earlier than marijuana withdrawal.

Any nonsense anecdotes you post are just that.

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specialkid8 posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Being addictive in the same way CE is addictive is not the same as being chemically addicting in the way alcohol and nicotine are.

Just because something isn't chemically addictive doesn't mean you can just sweep the argument off the table. Sex and gambling addiction are no less real than alcoholism.

Getting off alcohol can literally kill you if done improperly. So...yes...yes it is less real
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deupd_u posted...

Imagine thinking pro-weed people actually care about "medical use" LOL

Imagine ignoring all the different kinds of people who use weed and focusing on the people who use it purely recreationally, as if that somehow negates any benefit of the drug itself.
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It's addictive in the same way anything that's enjoyable can be addictive

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Holy_Pumpkin posted...

Are you going to ignore the rest of my post? lol

I did it because I could afford the luxury and it was a fun activity. Are you going to ridicule a gamer for playing a video game for 30 min every day and be in favor of classifying them as schedule 1 drugs?

It is proven addictive with proven withdrawal symptom.

The biggest difference between thc and other kinds of addictions is that thc withdrawal often takes weeks / months to kick in. If you smoke weed and cigarettes at the same time and try to quit both at the same time you'll notice your nicotine withdrawal much earlier than marijuana withdrawal.

Any nonsense anecdotes you post are just that.

I haven't done my research so I'll give you benefit of the doubt. Feel free to dismiss my experience as an avid user. But let's get to the root of the discussion and the reason of bringing up my points, because I don't care to argue for the sake of arguing.

Do you think the withdrawal symptoms are worse than the withdrawal symptoms of someone addicted to alcohol? Do you think marijuana should be classified as a Schedule I drug? Do you think it should be regulated and legal similarly to how nicotine and alcohol is?
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Govt also says I can survive a nuclear fallout by hiding under a desk.
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Holy_Pumpkin posted...

Do you think the withdrawal symptoms are worse than the withdrawal symptoms of someone addicted to alcohol? Do you think marijuana should be classified as a Schedule I drug? Do you think it should be regulated and legal similarly to how nicotine and alcohol is?

Absolutely not. The withdrawal symptoms of THC are extremely mild and not even as bad some things that aren't scheduled at all. Alcohol is among the worst withdrawals in the world.

The problem with regulations is twofold.

1. Nicotine and Alcohol aren't regulated by the FDA at all. This is also why beer can get away with not having nutritional / calorie information on their packaging as that's an FDA regulation which doesn't apply.

2. People will lobby to keep those things illegal not because they believe they are bad but because they cannot be monetized to the same extent as their proprietary drugs.

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Lol, most people in their late 20s/30s don't even wanna smoke again after quitting for weeks cause you gotta get pass the anxiety phase. Im 15 days off right now and am only gonna smoke again he because there is no reason for me not too.. i've literally been quitting for 15 days-month every 3 months for years.
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DarkRoast posted...

It's addictive in the same way anything that's enjoyable can be addictive

No. It literally has withdrawal. It is actually, physically addictive. That said....

The Admiral posted...

It's not even debatable that it's addictive. There are entire treatment programs designed to combat that.

https://www.smartrecovery.org/marijuana-addiction/

Calling it highly addictive is extremely misleading, to the point of being flat out wrong. It's withdrawal is unpleasant but not nearly as crippling as other drugs, and it doesn't create nearly as strong a compulsion as even non physical addictions can.

deupd_u posted...

Imagine thinking pro-weed people actually care about "medical use" LOL

They're totally got it in their heads that it's medicine. That's what Snopp Dogg calls it. He can't live without his medicine.

Purely posted...

deupd_u posted...

Imagine thinking pro-weed people actually care about "medical use" LOL

They're totally got it in their heads that it's medicine. That's what Snopp Dogg calls it. He can't live without his medicine.

Because it is medicine for many people. Not just theoretical, "makes me feel good" but actually treating and improving symptoms of various conditions.

"Marijuana isn't addictive because the withdrawal isn't as bad as other drugs!!!!"

Marijuana addiction is so bad it has you defending marijuana.
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

Marijuana addiction is so bad it has you defending marijuana.

So... you're addicted to marijuana unless you let people spread misinformation about it? Lol
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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

"Marijuana isn't addictive because the withdrawal isn't as bad as other drugs!!!!"

Marijuana addiction is so bad it has you defending marijuana.

Yes, I'm so addicted I go weeks without using, and only ever use on weekends when I have no responsibility so it takes no toll on my life. I'm such an addict. It couldn't possibly be that I'm actually educated on it and work in the addiction recovery field.

Philoktetes posted...

the UN has classified gaming as a disease too now

https://www.who.int/features/qa/gaming-disorder/en/

1. Disease and disorder are two different things
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414656/

2. Playing video games =/= the disorder. If you're using all your time playing video games and it's ruining your social and physical health, then it would be a disorder.
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Jagr_68 posted...

Govt also says I can survive a nuclear fallout by hiding under a desk.

i wish people would stop mocking this

obvs hiding under a desk wont protect you from a direct nuclear strike

but if youre far enough away from it to survive the immediate strike but close enough to still get effects, hidign under a desk can protect you from broke glass and stuff

like hiding under a desk during a tornado drill
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Purely posted...

He can't live without his medicine.

but it's not addictive!
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