Current Events > I'm glad I'm just watching BL3 instead of playing it for now

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I'm very iffy from what I've seen but will inevitably buy it. I still hate the claptrap voice change
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Nice Lilith buttcrack and cleavage as usual
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I'm going to wait for some DLCs. And I'd like to know how UVHM turns out before I get it. And hopefully they'll add the options to turn off Mayhem modifiers.
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Jabodie posted...

I'm going to wait for some DLCs. And I'd like to know how UVHM turns out before I get it. And hopefully they'll add the options to turn off Mayhem modifiers.

Exactly. I'm put off by all these buffs and nerfs going on. I hope Amara and moze get more buffs from what I've heard they need some
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The fuck. The damage calcs are very dumb in this. Gunfights shouldn't last this long early game
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

Exactly. I'm put off by all these buffs and nerfs going on. I hope Amara and moze get more buffs from what I've heard they need some

Eh, I'm glad GearBox is doing it tbh. I don't need things like BeeHawk/ShamFleet being clearly the best weapons/setups in the game. The sheer utility of the grog nozzle, and how the Lady Fist and DPUH plainly out DPS every other pistol in the game, most ARs being total ass, Pimp/Lyuda putting basically every other sniper to shame, arguably similar situation with the Interfacer on shotguns, etc.

In BL2 there are tons of skills that are worthless, especially at end game. While I don't want every skill to be amazing and game changing, hopefully these tweaks will help avoid a skill like pre nerf cloud kill being in the game for years (along with a handful of skills that are still bugged).
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Jabodie posted...

inloveanddeath0 posted...

Exactly. I'm put off by all these buffs and nerfs going on. I hope Amara and moze get more buffs from what I've heard they need some

Eh, I'm glad GearBox is doing it tbh. I don't need things like BeeHawk/ShamFleet being clearly the best weapons/setups in the game. The sheer utility of the grog nozzle, and how the Lady Fist and DPUH plainly out DPS every other pistol in the game, most ARs being total ass, Pimp/Lyuda putting basically every other sniper to shame, arguably similar situation with the Interfacer on shotguns, etc.

In BL2 there are tons of skills that are worthless, especially at end game. While I don't want every skill to be amazing and game changing, hopefully these tweaks will help avoid a skill like pre nerf cloud kill being in the game for years (along with a handful of skills that are still bugged).

I wasn't a part of the Bl2 over power builds. I did play pre bee nerf. I just rolled with what I liked skill wise besides useless skills
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I suppose what I mean is that kreig and sal were my least used characters
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I want to play BL3 right now, but I'm salty over the Flakker nerf. I enjoyed using the gun in 2 and TPS a lot, and now my enjoyment has gone way down. I'd rather quit the game because I'm sick of how much I've played it you know?
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In bl2 the flakker was effectively useless outside of certain circumstances. I think it got a buff during the loot hunt think In 2015. It's nice for axton and kreig
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epic players beta testing my steam version for me is nice
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I main a lvl 50 Amara. I take down bosses in TVHM Mayhem 3 like they're nothing. I deal insane elemental damage that heals me to boot and every 2 min I get a free Second Wind. If I phasegrasp an enemy I pull other enemies and am able to kill 5-6 with a single shot.

Amara is fine as is.
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fusespliff posted...

I main a lvl 50 Amara. I take down bosses in TVHM Mayhem 3 like they're nothing. I deal insane elemental damage that heals me to boot and every 2 min I get a free Second Wind. If I phasegrasp an enemy I pull other enemies and am able to kill 5-6 with a single shot.

Amara is fine as is.

Im just speaking as I see low level
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

I wasn't a part of the Bl2 over power builds. I did play pre bee nerf. I just rolled with what I liked skill wise besides useless skills

Did you play UVHM/OP levels?
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I'm playing it now, not really all that far, I have a level 22 and a level 15 or so. It came out about the same time as NHL and I play a lot of NHL, especially when it first releases and there's an online population.
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I've watched almost an hour of gameplay and I'm still not completely onto the story. 2 was so much better
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

I've watched almost an hour of gameplay and I'm still not completely onto the story. 2 was so much better

I've basically had the major plot points spoiled for me and tbh I'm glad for it. I would have been hella mad if I had to experience them without warning.

I also am hoping they make some way to skip scenes/dialogue in future updates. Apparently quitting/reloading doesn't skip dialogue like in previous games.
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Do the enemies respawn ridiculously fast in BL3? That was always something I hated in BL2.
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Gearbox did Maya dirty.
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

fusespliff posted...

I main a lvl 50 Amara. I take down bosses in TVHM Mayhem 3 like they're nothing. I deal insane elemental damage that heals me to boot and every 2 min I get a free Second Wind. If I phasegrasp an enemy I pull other enemies and am able to kill 5-6 with a single shot.

Amara is fine as is.

Im just speaking as I see low level

My bad. Kinda agree there. Ran the entire game with a friend who played FL4K and I certainly felt a lot more squishy than him on lower levels while Amara is supposed to be a mid to close range/melee character.
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Jabodie posted...

inloveanddeath0 posted...

I wasn't a part of the Bl2 over power builds. I did play pre bee nerf. I just rolled with what I liked skill wise besides useless skills

Did you play UVHM/OP levels?

I played UVHM for ten levels but slag being needed ruined it and I quit that
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They took the number values if bl1 and they made it more difficult to kill enemies. At least early on
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I don't get it. Bl2 was infinitely more popular than bl1 why revert number calcs
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Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.
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I did TVHM solo in BL2 but UVHM was a slog. stopped at lvl 73 I think
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.

Yeah that's another complaint. It's almost as if eridium would have been better off being the neccesary resource
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Yeah, I'm going to dip a toe and earn Halloween skins then shelve it until they've figured out the balance. I'm sick of these near-daily adjustments. Wish I'd waited on it, although I did have fun with my one playthrough.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.

Money becomes easier to farm as you progress. On TVHM Mayhem 3 doing a single map will net you over 2 million. But it becomes pretty much useless once you upgrade all SDU. In normal mode near the end a single container will give you about 2-5k.
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I'm getting more glad I didn't purchase this yet
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fusespliff posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.

Money becomes easier to farm as you progress. On TVHM Mayhem 3 doing a single map will net you over 2 million. But it becomes pretty much useless once you upgrade all SDU.

Money is used for IOTD after that
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Loot based games like BL3 and Destiny 2 sound like awful games to just watch.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Loot based games like BL3 and Destiny 2 sound like awful games to just watch.

Borderlands existed long before destiny
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

fusespliff posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.

Money becomes easier to farm as you progress. On TVHM Mayhem 3 doing a single map will net you over 2 million. But it becomes pretty much useless once you upgrade all SDU.

Money is used for IOTD after that

What's that?
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fusespliff posted...

inloveanddeath0 posted...

fusespliff posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Seems like it's tougher to get money also, I was sitting on millions in BL2 and this game so far I can barely keep 20k in the bank.

Money becomes easier to farm as you progress. On TVHM Mayhem 3 doing a single map will net you over 2 million. But it becomes pretty much useless once you upgrade all SDU.

Money is used for IOTD after that

What's that?

Item of the day...
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

I played UVHM for ten levels but slag being needed ruined it and I quit that

Ah. Tbh, I am much more interested in end/late game balance and gameplay. In fact, now that you can start with level 30 characters in BL2, I really don't think there's any reason to play NVHM in that game. It's just so much worse than TVHM+.

inloveanddeath0 posted...

I don't get it. Bl2 was infinitely more popular than bl1 why revert number calcs

It has to do with scaling. Numbers become absolutely ludicrous and balancing skills to work in a somewhat consistent way for all levels is basically impossible. For instance, Cloud Kill was buffed to do decent (but not amazing) damage in UVHM/OP levels, which made it one shot literally every enemy that wasn't a boss in BL2 NVHM. If you want the easiest/fastest way to beat NVHM/TVHM in BL2, go Maya and spec Cloud Kill and literally everything dissolves.

Besides, I believe it's skill exponential scaling.

thronedfire2 posted...

I did TVHM solo in BL2 but UVHM was a slog. stopped at lvl 73 I think

Tbh I only ever actually grinded one character to max level. After power leveling a second character for a while, I started using gibbed to skip UVHM leveling.
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Oooh I couldn't place the abbreviation. Meh, the only game where that ever seemed worth it to me was TPS. BL3 craps out legendaries (though many awful) at an insane rate so I never bothered.
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I must be in the minority that enjoys the first playthrough of bl games then
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Something is just off with this ones humor, I can't quite figure it out. Even the Telltale Borderlands game was really solid with great characters and good humor. This just didn't really hit at all for me except for a few FL4K one liners here and there.
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I don't think enjoying it puts you in the minority actually. There's tons of people that only play these games once and move on without even thinking about grinding.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Something is just off with this ones humor, I can't quite figure it out. Even the Telltale Borderlands game was really solid with great characters and good humor. This just didn't really hit at all for me except for a few FL4K one liners here and there.

I feel you there
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This fight with mouth looks so fucking tedious
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

I must be in the minority that enjoys the first playthrough of bl games then

Nah, the vast majority of players likely only play first playthrough I would guess.

But there is a lot of depth in end game BL2 imo. For me, playthrough 1 BL2 is just a shooter with really shitty feeling gunplay, bullet sponge enemies, and mediocre story. With character and gear specific builds and strategies, gameplay becomes a lot more varied and interesting, and the increased difficulty requires at least a decent build and some kind of strategy when it comes to gameplay.

I get the idea of playthrough 1. You start generic with shitty guns and eventually, near the end, you have something resembling a build. But for me I did not have fun playing BL1 or BL2 until like level 25. Now in replays I did later to grind other characters I enjoyed it more, but that's more knowing how to deal with the game's bs than anything else.
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Oh I get it. I love tvhm. I do not enjoy UVHM
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I don't enjoy leveling in UVHM, so I had the most fun at 61, then again for a while at 72(didn't do OP levels because I didn't want to grind the same things a third time), and then the Lilith DLC killed my motivation to play anymore. I might actually go back and get characters to level 80, because before that I only ever had three characters at max level.
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I'd never want a UVHM quite as intense or with some gimmick like "slag required," even if I do enjoy those things in BL2. But it only really works with OP builds, and like I said I skipped tons of weapon/level grinding with Gibbed.

It's why I'm really, really hoping they get rid of the random modifiers on Mayhem.
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I generally try to play Bl2 dlc at 15 for the first 2. Then after the warrior I do hammerlock and tiny Tina's
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MJOLNRVII posted...

I don't enjoy leveling in UVHM, so I had the most fun at 61, then again for a while at 72(didn't do OP levels because I didn't want to grind the same things a third time), and then the Lilith DLC killed my motivation to play anymore. I might actually go back and get characters to level 80, because before that I only ever had three characters at max level.

Give into the Gibbed. There is literally no reason to grind the same content haha, you already know exactly how it's going to be.

Then you can live the level 80 Axton glory that is Double Up + Gemini. Tbh, I think Axton is the only character that actually gets a meaningful boost from the extra 8 levels.
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inloveanddeath0 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Loot based games like BL3 and Destiny 2 sound like awful games to just watch.

Borderlands existed long before destiny

I never said it wasnt lol
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I never used Gibbed or accepted things from anyone, which is part of the reason I got tired of it. Mayhem 3 honestly doesn't feel that bad on Moze and FL4K unless the exact combination of modifers are active(bullet reflection GG), in which case I could just reset. I have no idea what they could do for UVHM in this game but it's clear that with the absence of slag that there won't be anything similar. For the longest time Zer0 and Giage were my favorite characters, but then Maya became my most played just because of her slag capabilities.

I'm kinda glad the DPUH isn't in this game because it'd get nerfed so hard. Also I play BL3 on Xbone so I'm not sure what the illegitimate way of getting stuff even is this time around.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

inloveanddeath0 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

Loot based games like BL3 and Destiny 2 sound like awful games to just watch.

Borderlands existed long before destiny

I never said it wasnt lol

Lol
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