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Blackstar110 10/28/19 9:14:59 PM #1:	I owe almost 1.5k out of pocket. Included in the itemization was a $2000 stay in the recovery room where I laid for 15 minutes, got dressed, and had a cup of apple juice. Im about to fucking break bad --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:929364790] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>I owe almost 1.5k out of pocket. Included in the itemization was a $2000 stay in the recovery room where I laid for 15 minutes, got dressed, and had a cup of apple juice. Im about to fucking break bad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:16:32 PM #2:	What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929364864] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 10/28/19 9:17:19 PM #3:	Was the apple juice good at least --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:929364889] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Was the apple juice good at least</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 10/28/19 9:18:12 PM #4:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. $1500 is still pretty bad. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac/wishlist/ <cite>Esrac posted [p:929364931] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> $1500 is still pretty bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:20:02 PM #5:	Esrac posted... $1500 is still pretty bad. Put it on a payment plan and it's just $125 a month for a year. Not bad at all and certainly something that can be budgeted for. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365014] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>$1500 is still pretty bad.</quote> Put it on a payment plan and it's just $125 a month for a year. Not bad at all and certainly something that can be budgeted for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 10/28/19 9:20:41 PM #6:	JFC your country is horrible. OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. Everything about this post is wrong. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:929365042] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>JFC your country is horrible. OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> Everything about this post is wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Matchabuu_ 10/28/19 9:21:01 PM #7:	Ill shove a scope up anyones ass for about 5 dollars why would u pay that much ~~jk American healthcare is the devil~~ --- uwu SW-0239-3946-8686 <cite>_Matchabuu_ posted [p:929365052] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Ill shove a scope up anyones ass for about 5 dollars why would u pay that much jk American healthcare is the devil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrNintendo1213 10/28/19 9:21:03 PM #8:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. "Hey I had a little blood in my stool and it isn't going away." "Okay, try using baby wipes instead of tp and if it doesnt stop take this camera up your ass and then give me 1,500 dollars." Yeah that sounds great give everyone more of that. And either way, you still do have to pay for poor people, because healthcare is so expensive poor and homeless people will not go for a long time until they are dying. Then they go to the emergency room and have several thousand dollars owed, and since they are poor and or homeless they won't pay it. Now they need to charge everyone else more because of all the people who aren't going to pay them. --- Dot Dot Dot... <cite>MrNintendo1213 posted [p:929365055] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> "Hey I had a little blood in my stool and it isn't going away." "Okay, try using baby wipes instead of tp and if it doesnt stop take this camera up your ass and then give me 1,500 dollars." Yeah that sounds great give everyone more of that. And either way, you still do have to pay for poor people, because healthcare is so expensive poor and homeless people will not go for a long time until they are dying. Then they go to the emergency room and have several thousand dollars owed, and since they are poor and or homeless they won't pay it. Now they need to charge everyone else more because of all the people who aren't going to pay them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mew4ever 10/28/19 9:21:19 PM #9:	Like I get routine stuff are things you can budget for. But I dont like medical emergencies having the potential to financially ruin people. Its like too bad, dont get sick. And it sounds so ridiculous --- http://tinyurl.com/qg6jcsu New York Mets 2015 NL Champions. New York Jets: 5-11 <cite>mew4ever posted [p:929365071] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Like I get routine stuff are things you can budget for. But I dont like medical emergencies having the potential to financially ruin people. Its like too bad, dont get sick. And it sounds so ridiculous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:21:38 PM #10:	Sir Will posted... Everything about this post is wrong. How do you figure <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365084] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Sir Will posted... </cite> <quote>Everything about this post is wrong.</quote> How do you figure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 10/28/19 9:22:38 PM #11:	American healthcare is a fucking nightmare --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:929365118] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>American healthcare is a fucking nightmare </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:22:59 PM #12:	MrNintendo1213 posted... "Hey I had a little blood in my stool and it isn't going away." "Okay, try using baby wipes instead of tp and if it doesnt stop take this camera up your ass and then give me 1,500 dollars." Yeah that sounds great give everyone more of that. And either way, you still do have to pay for poor people, because healthcare is so expensive poor and homeless people will not go for a long time until they are dying. Then they go to the emergency room and have several thousand dollars owed, and since they are poor and or homeless they won't pay it. Now they need to charge everyone else more because of all the people who aren't going to pay them. Weird, my emergency room costs are pretty low with a decent insurance plan and urgent care centers are good for almost everything despite being much cheaper for me than an emergency room. Don't go to emergency room if it isn't emergency. Use urgent Care center and be diligent about maintaining your health. It doesn't have to cost much <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365131] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>MrNintendo1213 posted... </cite> <quote>"Hey I had a little blood in my stool and it isn't going away." "Okay, try using baby wipes instead of tp and if it doesnt stop take this camera up your ass and then give me 1,500 dollars." Yeah that sounds great give everyone more of that. And either way, you still do have to pay for poor people, because healthcare is so expensive poor and homeless people will not go for a long time until they are dying. Then they go to the emergency room and have several thousand dollars owed, and since they are poor and or homeless they won't pay it. Now they need to charge everyone else more because of all the people who aren't going to pay them.</quote> Weird, my emergency room costs are pretty low with a decent insurance plan and urgent care centers are good for almost everything despite being much cheaper for me than an emergency room. Don't go to emergency room if it isn't emergency. Use urgent Care center and be diligent about maintaining your health. It doesn't have to cost much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 10/28/19 9:23:04 PM #13:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. Shut the fuck up --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:929365136] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> Shut the fuck up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:23:27 PM #14:	mattnd2007 posted... American healthcare is a fucking nightmare $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365154] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>American healthcare is a fucking nightmare</quote> $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:24:02 PM #15:	Blackstar110 posted... Shut the fuck up What a great rebuttal. Im convinced <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365169] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Blackstar110 posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up</quote> What a great rebuttal. Im convinced </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 10/28/19 9:24:58 PM #16:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:929365211] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>$1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever</quote>Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 10/28/19 9:25:21 PM #17:	Thats why you get it while on medicaid --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:929365228] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Thats why you get it while on medicaid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 10/28/19 9:25:31 PM #18:	TC i'll take care of it for you for $200 I have a pretty clean garden hose --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:929365233] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>TC i'll take care of it for you for $200 I have a pretty clean garden hose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blackstar110 10/28/19 9:25:34 PM #19:	mattnd2007 posted... OnWingsOfMisery posted... $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life Nah man hell just budget; nbd --- -Shred <cite>Blackstar110 posted [p:929365237] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>$1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever</quote>Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life </quote> Nah man hell just budget; nbd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gakk86 10/28/19 9:26:24 PM #20:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... mattnd2007 posted... American healthcare is a fucking nightmare $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever You have no idea what you're talking, just shut up. Colonoscopies are a routine thing. Just because you're talking out your ass doesn't mean you won't have a camera shoved up it many times in your life as you get older. Unless of course you don't have great insurance or we somehow keep our busted ass medical system, then you'll probably die of some kind of bowel disease. --- All generalizations are false, including this one. <cite>Gakk86 posted [p:929365275] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>American healthcare is a fucking nightmare</quote> $1,500 out of pocket for a rare thing is a nightmare? It is certainly better than taking home 20% less each year forever </quote> You have no idea what you're talking, just shut up. Colonoscopies are a routine thing. Just because you're talking out your ass doesn't mean you won't have a camera shoved up it many times in your life as you get older. Unless of course you don't have great insurance or we somehow keep our busted ass medical system, then you'll probably die of some kind of bowel disease.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:28:37 PM #21:	mattnd2007 posted... Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life There's like a .01% chance of getting cancer. If it happened that would suck and I would hope we could have better strategies for it, but this topic isn't about cancer. It's about something that is actually a very reasonable out of pocket cost. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365351] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>Wait until you get cancer or something. Even with healthcare the costs are outrageous. Like oh good you survived. Here is a good chunk of financial ruin in your life</quote> There's like a .01% chance of getting cancer. If it happened that would suck and I would hope we could have better strategies for it, but this topic isn't about cancer. It's about something that is actually a very reasonable out of pocket cost. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/28/19 9:28:42 PM #22:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. Colonoscopies are routine. The exorbitant amounts we pay for healthcare are unacceptable. And some people don't mind paying taxes. Helping everyone includes helping yourself. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929365357] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> Colonoscopies are routine. The exorbitant amounts we pay for healthcare are unacceptable. And some people don't mind paying taxes. Helping everyone includes helping yourself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:30:13 PM #23:	Gakk86 posted... You have no idea what you're talking, just shut up. Colonoscopies are a routine thing. Just because you're talking out your ass doesn't mean you won't have a camera shoved up it many times in your life as you get older. Unless of course you don't have great insurance or we somehow keep our busted ass medical system, then you'll probably die of some kind of bowel disease. Gonna need some citations for how common colonoscopies are. $125 a month for a year is not a bad outcome which is the point of the topic. It's not some huge amount. The insurance did its job. He could probably when make a phone call or two and talk his portion down to $0. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365415] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Gakk86 posted... </cite> <quote>You have no idea what you're talking, just shut up. Colonoscopies are a routine thing. Just because you're talking out your ass doesn't mean you won't have a camera shoved up it many times in your life as you get older. Unless of course you don't have great insurance or we somehow keep our busted ass medical system, then you'll probably die of some kind of bowel disease.</quote> Gonna need some citations for how common colonoscopies are. $125 a month for a year is not a bad outcome which is the point of the topic. It's not some huge amount. The insurance did its job. He could probably when make a phone call or two and talk his portion down to $0. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:32:06 PM #24:	hockeybub89 posted... Colonoscopies are routine. The exorbitant amounts we pay for healthcare are unacceptable. And some people don't mind paying taxes. Helping everyone includes helping yourself. $1,500 out of pocket for a colonoscopy is certainly a lot cheaper than the enormous tax increases we would need after Warren becomes president. And also a much less frequent bill than having even more of your income seized by the state each and every month. Maybe adults should be budgeting better so they already have some money saved when they need a colonoscopy or some other thing that is infrequent and not covered 100% <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365503] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Colonoscopies are routine. The exorbitant amounts we pay for healthcare are unacceptable. And some people don't mind paying taxes. Helping everyone includes helping yourself.</quote> $1,500 out of pocket for a colonoscopy is certainly a lot cheaper than the enormous tax increases we would need after Warren becomes president. And also a much less frequent bill than having even more of your income seized by the state each and every month. Maybe adults should be budgeting better so they already have some money saved when they need a colonoscopy or some other thing that is infrequent and not covered 100% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chicken 10/28/19 9:34:39 PM #26:	With that kind of cost they should make it so your farts smell like cinnamon rolls --- https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:929365594] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>With that kind of cost they should make it so your farts smell like cinnamon rolls</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:36:54 PM #27:	Chicken posted... With that kind of cost they should make it so your farts smell like cinnamon rolls Note that the individual did not pay $18,000. They paid $1,500. Which is much closer to what the cost of the colonoscopy is. The insurance saved him from the hospital that billed nearly 15 times more than what the service costs. And they'll negotiate on his behalf for the rest of the bill, with the $1,500 he owes even being negotiable if he calls them. People here are so misinformed about how this all works. Probably because the average age is so small that the average poster is on their parent's insurance and has no real world experience. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365695] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Chicken posted... </cite> <quote>With that kind of cost they should make it so your farts smell like cinnamon rolls</quote> Note that the individual did not pay $18,000. They paid $1,500. Which is much closer to what the cost of the colonoscopy is. The insurance saved him from the hospital that billed nearly 15 times more than what the service costs. And they'll negotiate on his behalf for the rest of the bill, with the $1,500 he owes even being negotiable if he calls them. People here are so misinformed about how this all works. Probably because the average age is so small that the average poster is on their parent's insurance and has no real world experience. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 10/28/19 9:37:41 PM #28:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... There's like a .01% chance of getting cancer. If it happened that would suck and I would hope we could have better strategies for it, but this topic isn't about cancer. It's about something that is actually a very reasonable out of pocket cost. Even though you're probably trolling. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html 0.01% right.... --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:929365728] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>There's like a .01% chance of getting cancer. If it happened that would suck and I would hope we could have better strategies for it, but this topic isn't about cancer. It's about something that is actually a very reasonable out of pocket cost.</quote> Even though you're probably trolling. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html 0.01% right.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 10/28/19 9:37:44 PM #29:	Are you over 40? <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:929365732] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Are you over 40?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/28/19 9:37:54 PM #30:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... It's not some huge amount. The insurance did its job. He could probably when make a phone call or two and talk his portion down to $0. Insurance companies are famous for being easy to communicate with. oh. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:929365739] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>It's not some huge amount. The insurance did its job. He could probably when make a phone call or two and talk his portion down to $0.</quote> Insurance companies are famous for being easy to communicate with. oh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:42:02 PM #32:	mattnd2007 posted... Even though you're probably trolling. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html 0.01% right.... Eventually old age causes us to die of cancer or basically anything else, but for the healthy person the odds are quite low of getting it at a young age. We can definitely improve how we treat those people though. But that doesn't change anything I said to the TC about his post. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365898] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>Even though you're probably trolling. https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-basics/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html 0.01% right....</quote> Eventually old age causes us to die of cancer or basically anything else, but for the healthy person the odds are quite low of getting it at a young age. We can definitely improve how we treat those people though. But that doesn't change anything I said to the TC about his post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:42:35 PM #33:	hockeybub89 posted... Insurance companies are famous for being easy to communicate with. oh. Yeah you can call them or get in touch via their app nowadays. Do you have your own insurance or are you still on your dad or mom's? <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929365914] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Insurance companies are famous for being easy to communicate with. oh.</quote> Yeah you can call them or get in touch via their app nowadays. Do you have your own insurance or are you still on your dad or mom's? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mattnd2007 10/28/19 9:43:21 PM #34:	Ok nothing to see here people. Stop taking the bait --- Show me a man who resorts to violence and I'll show you a man who's run out of good ideas Phil Funnie <cite>mattnd2007 posted [p:929365939] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Ok nothing to see here people. Stop taking the bait </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:49:41 PM #35:	mattnd2007 posted... Ok nothing to see here people. Stop taking the bait According to your link it isn't until 60 years of age that a man will have 10% chance of developing cancer sometime in the next 10 years. With proper nutrition and exercises I'm sure that number is much better for individuals. So yes, I'm not worried about cancer since I'm young. I don't intend to support much higher taxes on individuals due to cancer since that isn't a good argument. Giving up a huge chunk of my earnings for something that may happen when I'm old enough to face death from a ton of other things doesn't seem like a smart trade. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929366176] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>mattnd2007 posted... </cite> <quote>Ok nothing to see here people. Stop taking the bait</quote> According to your link it isn't until 60 years of age that a man will have 10% chance of developing cancer sometime in the next 10 years. With proper nutrition and exercises I'm sure that number is much better for individuals. So yes, I'm not worried about cancer since I'm young. I don't intend to support much higher taxes on individuals due to cancer since that isn't a good argument. Giving up a huge chunk of my earnings for something that may happen when I'm old enough to face death from a ton of other things doesn't seem like a smart trade. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/28/19 9:52:55 PM #36:	Why are you guys bothering with the latest stolen account's shitposting? --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:929366297] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Why are you guys bothering with the latest stolen account's shitposting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 9:54:37 PM #37:	I like how people throw out insults like alt right and shitposter even though no one can give a rebuttal for my position <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929366365] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>I like how people throw out insults like alt right and shitposter even though no one can give a rebuttal for my position </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 10/28/19 9:57:19 PM #38:	My sister in law owed like $3000 out of pocket for giving birth "Hey we know having a kid is gonna make your finances into a fucking trainwreck so let's get you prepared for that!" Honestly, anyone who thinks America's healthcare system isn't fucking awful is a fucking idiot. --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:929366451] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>My sister in law owed like $3000 out of pocket for giving birth "Hey we know having a kid is gonna make your finances into a fucking trainwreck so let's get you prepared for that!" Honestly, anyone who thinks America's healthcare system isn't fucking awful is a fucking idiot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 10/28/19 9:58:54 PM #39:	DrizztLink posted... Why are you guys bothering with the latest stolen account's shitposting? Especially one who posts bait like someone having to budget in an extra $125 a month in expenses is "no big deal". That made it too obvious --- https://youtu.be/rYy0o-J0x20?t=300 "Thank you, good night. I hope you're happy" <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:929366516] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you guys bothering with the latest stolen account's shitposting?</quote> Especially one who posts bait like someone having to budget in an extra $125 a month in expenses is "no big deal". That made it too obvious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobbaaay 10/28/19 10:01:34 PM #40:	Colon cancer is one of the more common forms of cancer. I love how that poster tried to play it off as rare. <cite>bobbaaay posted [p:929366626] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Colon cancer is one of the more common forms of cancer. I love how that poster tried to play it off as rare.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 10/28/19 10:01:47 PM #41:	I could add $125 a month no problem if necessary. I'm not rich. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:929366632] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>I could add $125 a month no problem if necessary. I'm not rich.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 10:05:12 PM #42:	An extra $125 a month really isn't that much to budget for out of pocket health expenses when you consider the median household income and the average amount spent on dining out and entertainment. https://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/personal-income-taxes/discretionary-income1.htm $12,000 a year on that to be precise. Surely $1,500 of that can be saved each year to account for any extra healthcare needs like what TC had? Or do we absolutely need to reduce people's take-home pay by more than the $125 it would cost to get there. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929366763] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>An extra $125 a month really isn't that much to budget for out of pocket health expenses when you consider the median household income and the average amount spent on dining out and entertainment. https://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/personal-income-taxes/discretionary-income1.htm $12,000 a year on that to be precise. Surely $1,500 of that can be saved each year to account for any extra healthcare needs like what TC had? Or do we absolutely need to reduce people's take-home pay by more than the $125 it would cost to get there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 10/28/19 10:06:17 PM #43:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. Terrible gimmick bro --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:929366813] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it.</quote>Terrible gimmick bro </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hakujo 10/28/19 10:06:59 PM #44:	Government doesn't care about it's people. We get it. --- Stop reading me without consent. <cite>hakujo posted [p:929366846] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Government doesn't care about it's people. We get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 10:07:48 PM #45:	bobbaaay posted... Colon cancer is one of the more common forms of cancer. I love how that poster tried to play it off as rare. https://seer.cancer.gov/csr/1975_2014/results_merged/topic_lifetime_risk.pdf Scroll down to page 21. You have less than a 1% chance of getting colon cancer in the next ten years, every ten years until you get to 70. Then the probability increases slightly but still remains very improbable. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929366882] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>bobbaaay posted... </cite> <quote>Colon cancer is one of the more common forms of cancer. I love how that poster tried to play it off as rare.</quote> https://seer.cancer.gov/csr/1975_2014/results_merged/topic_lifetime_risk.pdf Scroll down to page 21. You have less than a 1% chance of getting colon cancer in the next ten years, every ten years until you get to 70. Then the probability increases slightly but still remains very improbable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 10:08:18 PM #46:	TheGoldenEel posted... Terrible gimmick bro Either dispute the actual points I'm making or don't post kthxbai <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929366908] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Terrible gimmick bro</quote> Either dispute the actual points I'm making or don't post kthxbai </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scody 10/28/19 10:10:40 PM #47:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. And this is why your country has such horrific health care costs. You're literally ok with it. Thats pathetic of you lol --- Does anyone here ever ask their parents for advice on anything? - InfiniteFox CE has replaced my parents - Omnieval <cite>Scody posted [p:929367007] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted...</cite> <quote>What is routine about a colonoscopy? $1,500 out of pocket for an abnormal thing like that isn't bad. Certainly beats paying 20% more in taxes each and every year even when you don't need it. </quote> And this is why your country has such horrific health care costs. You're literally ok with it. Thats pathetic of you lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 10/28/19 10:11:12 PM #48:	My kid cost $6000 after insurance for a C-section My friend who had a kid was free cause she was purposefully poor. She now is a stay at home mom with food stamps, heat and cooling assistance, Medicare, with section 8. Sounds kinda nice right now --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:929367029] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>My kid cost $6000 after insurance for a C-section My friend who had a kid was free cause she was purposefully poor. She now is a stay at home mom with food stamps, heat and cooling assistance, Medicare, with section 8. Sounds kinda nice right now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 10/28/19 10:12:50 PM #49:	OnWingsOfMisery posted... Either dispute the actual points I'm making or don't post kthxbai Well for one you called a colonoscopy, a procedure that 80% of people will have at least once in their lifetime, with many having multiple, not routine i used to repair the sterilizers used for scopesI know a thing or two about the procedures and the actual costs involved in them health care prices in the US are ridiculously overinflated --- The words of The Golden Eel have been revealed... Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:929367107] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>OnWingsOfMisery posted... </cite> <quote>Either dispute the actual points I'm making or don't post kthxbai</quote>Well for one you called a colonoscopy, a procedure that 80% of people will have at least once in their lifetime, with many having multiple, not routine i used to repair the sterilizers used for scopesI know a thing or two about the procedures and the actual costs involved in them health care prices in the US are ridiculously overinflated </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OnWingsOfMisery 10/28/19 10:14:21 PM #50:	Scody posted... And this is why your country has such horrific health care costs. You're literally ok with it. Thats pathetic of you lol I am okay with adults who on average spend $12,000 a year eating out and on entertainment being responsible for $125 of their own monthly healthcare spending, yes. Not my problem to take care of the inflated hospital billing for someone else. <cite>OnWingsOfMisery posted [p:929367177] in American h... [t:78118170]...</cite> <quote>Scody posted... </cite> <quote>And this is why your country has such horrific health care costs. You're literally ok with it. Thats pathetic of you lol</quote> I am okay with adults who on average spend $12,000 a year eating out and on entertainment being responsible for $125 of their own monthly healthcare spending, yes. Not my problem to take care of the inflated hospital billing for someone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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