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Antifar
10/29/19 7:28:37 PM
#151:


Schreier, IIRC, was the first to report on Fallout 76 being an online game, and there were a lot who didn't believe him until they confirmed it at E3.
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Prestoff
10/29/19 7:29:01 PM
#152:


Wait, is Kotaku shutting down or what?
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AceMos
10/29/19 7:29:47 PM
#153:


sounds like kotaku does actual journalism no wonder it upsets people in todays age people want the AAA publishers to lie to them rather than here facts
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
10/29/19 7:30:01 PM
#154:


AceMos posted...
ok thats 2 strikes i will ask one last time how are kotaku scum dont use buzz words this time actually explain things they have done

just fucking add me to your fucking block list. I already posted. You wanna skip over the topic? Don't fucking reply to me if you wanna do that shit son.
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Antifar
10/29/19 7:30:43 PM
#155:


Prestoff posted...
Wait, is Kotaku shutting down or what?

It's not; the new ownership at G-O Media, which includes Kotaku, Gizmodo, Deadspin and others, has been doing its best to alienate both writers and readers.
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King_Hutton
10/29/19 7:31:10 PM
#156:


AceMos posted...
ok thats 2 strikes i will ask one last time how are kotaku scum dont use buzz words this time actually explain things they have done

You know youre never going to get a legitimate answer out of Brutal, right? Hes still ranting about what one of their previous owners did for fuck sake.
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Darmik
10/29/19 7:32:14 PM
#157:


Antifar posted...
Schreier, IIRC, was the first to report on Fallout 76 being an online game, and there were a lot who didn't believe him until they confirmed it at E3.


Yep. He also generally reports when a game will be delayed before its officially announced (I think Last of Us 2 was the last one)

But Bethesda specifically blacklisted him because he reported on voice actors getting scripts for Fallout 4 IIRC. Oh he also reported on the whole Prey 2 being cancelled and passed over to Arkane as well. I think that was also what got him blacklisted.
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
10/29/19 7:32:45 PM
#158:


King_Hutton posted...

You know youre never going to get a legitimate answer out of Brutal, right?

add me to your block list. I already posted two things they did. Gwaker not counted in that
you also refuse to read

add me to block list instead of trolling me thanks you
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IShall_Run_Amok
10/29/19 7:33:12 PM
#159:


ProbablyaCat posted...
The Dragon's Crown fiasco sticks out in my mind, and I'm pretty sure there have been many other times where he's left a strong negative impression on me. I don't have a list, but he's never done anything that's made me think he should be allowed to work as a games journalist

People need your permission to work as games journalists.

Haha.
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King_Hutton
10/29/19 7:33:16 PM
#160:


RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
King_Hutton posted...

You know youre never going to get a legitimate answer out of Brutal, right?

add me to your block list. I already posted two things they did. Gwaker not counted in that
you also refuse to read

add me to block list instead of trolling me thanks you

The drunken meltdown continues

You didnt contribute shit
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Hexenherz
10/29/19 7:33:44 PM
#161:


Antifar posted...
Schreier, IIRC, was the first to report on Fallout 76 being an online game, and there were a lot who didn't believe him until they confirmed it at E3.

That certainly makes up for him and the other Gawker pieces of shit defending the publication's decision to harass a competitor organization's CFO based on his sexual orientation... NOT.
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Prestoff
10/29/19 7:34:19 PM
#162:


Antifar posted...
Prestoff posted...
Wait, is Kotaku shutting down or what?

It's not; the new ownership at G-O Media, which includes Kotaku, Gizmodo, Deadspin and others, has been doing its best to alienate both writers and readers.


Why would they want to do that?
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Esrac
10/29/19 7:35:12 PM
#163:


Paper_Okami posted...
Darmik posted...
Jason got Kotaku blacklisted by Ubisoft and Bethesda. So he'd need to work for a place who is willing to lose PR access to entire major publishers.


funny that the same people who were mad about "ethics in game journalism" are happy about kotaku being shut down


I mean, Kotaku is one of their go-to examples for what they'd claim is a cancer in gaming journalism. The primary hub for Gamergate is literally called KotakuInAction.
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Smashingpmkns
10/29/19 7:35:34 PM
#164:


Is new ownership the reason why none of Kotaku's articles are popping up any text for me? Lol
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Questionmarktarius
10/29/19 7:36:03 PM
#165:


Prestoff posted...
Why would they want to do that?

It's typical behavior of new management to throw weight around and clean house.
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AceMos
10/29/19 7:36:10 PM
#166:


@RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk

calm down there is no need to get so abusive over this lets just have a civil conversation
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Darmik
10/29/19 7:37:28 PM
#167:


Ah didn't realize Kotaku wrote an article about the blacklist. That explains it best

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/11/a-price-of-games-journalism/

The Bethesda blackout came after a year of reporting that was not always flattering to the Maryland-based publisher. In April of 2013 we reported insiders' accounts of the troubled development of the still unreleased fourth major Doom game. In May of that year, we reported that Arkane Austin, the Bethesda-owned studio behind Dishonored, would be working on a new version of the long missing-in-action Prey 2 and that some at the studio were not pleased about that. When top people at Bethesda started making statements casting doubt on our reporting, we published a leaked internal email confirming that those statements had misled gamers and that Arkane had indeed been working on a version of Prey 2.

The current Ubisoft blackout is actually the second in as many years. The company tried a similar approach in the spring of 2014 after we published early images of the then-unannounced Assassin's Creed Unity images that had been leaked to us by an independent source. That article confirmed news about the company's extraordinary plans to release two entirely different AC games in the fall of that year, one for new consoles and one for old. Ubisoft had warmed back to Kotaku by the summer of 2014, several months after the Unity report, but has cold-shouldered us since the Victory story one year ago. It's possible other articles angered them, too. But that Victory piece is a safe bet.

I'm sure some people will sympathize with Bethesda and Ubisoft. Some will cheer these companies and hope others follow suit. They will see this kind of reporting as upsetting, as ruining surprises and frustrating creative people. They will claim we are "hurting video games," and, as so many do, mistake the job of entertainment reporting for the mandate to hype entertainment products.

We serve our readers, not game companies, and will always do so to the best of our ability, no matter who in the gaming world is or isn't angry with us at the moment. In some ways, the blacklist has even been instructive cut off from press access and pre-release review copies, we have doubled down on our post-release "embedding" approach to games coverage. We've experienced some of the year's biggest games from street level, at the same time and in the same way as our readers.

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AceMos
10/29/19 7:38:07 PM
#168:


Questionmarktarius posted...
Prestoff posted...
Why would they want to do that?

It's typical behavior of new management to throw weight around and clean house.

fun fact this is LITERALLY (actual definition) going on in supergirl at this time
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Darmik
10/29/19 7:39:23 PM
#169:


I think the attitude of the new management is "How dare you criticize our advertisers?!"
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MudKip_Master
10/29/19 7:49:53 PM
#170:


Paper_Okami posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
oh no, bad people are having bad things happen to them!


Kotaku and Gawker being under the same banner doesn't mean they are the same fucking people

and lmao at all these dumb nerds who think gaming isn't political



Wow you're really upset by this
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AceMos
10/29/19 7:50:49 PM
#171:


MudKip_Master posted...
Paper_Okami posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
oh no, bad people are having bad things happen to them!


Kotaku and Gawker being under the same banner doesn't mean they are the same fucking people

and lmao at all these dumb nerds who think gaming isn't political



Wow you're really upset by this

a wild alt apears
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:00:00 PM
#172:


IShall_Run_Amok posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
The Dragon's Crown fiasco sticks out in my mind, and I'm pretty sure there have been many other times where he's left a strong negative impression on me. I don't have a list, but he's never done anything that's made me think he should be allowed to work as a games journalist

People need your permission to work as games journalists.

Haha.


As in, he shouldn't be hired
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AceMos
10/29/19 8:01:52 PM
#173:


ProbablyaCat posted...
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
The Dragon's Crown fiasco sticks out in my mind, and I'm pretty sure there have been many other times where he's left a strong negative impression on me. I don't have a list, but he's never done anything that's made me think he should be allowed to work as a games journalist

People need your permission to work as games journalists.

Haha.


As in, he shouldn't be hired

so exposing rockstar's abusive crunch means he should not be allowed to do game journalism
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:02:55 PM
#174:


AceMos posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
The Dragon's Crown fiasco sticks out in my mind, and I'm pretty sure there have been many other times where he's left a strong negative impression on me. I don't have a list, but he's never done anything that's made me think he should be allowed to work as a games journalist

People need your permission to work as games journalists.

Haha.


As in, he shouldn't be hired

so exposing rockstar's abusive crunch means he should not be allowed to do game journalism


That's obviously not what I said.
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AceMos
10/29/19 8:04:29 PM
#175:


but it is what you said
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:06:07 PM
#176:


Can you quote where I said anything about him reporting on rockstar?
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Darmik
10/29/19 8:06:30 PM
#177:


"Sure you've done in-depth exposes on many gaming studios but you shouldn't be hired because you said the character design in Dragons Crown was bad 10 years ago"

Gamers lol
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:09:08 PM
#178:


Darmik posted...
"Sure you've done in-depth exposes on many gaming studios but you shouldn't be hired because you said the character design in Dragons Crown was bad 10 years ago"

Gamers lol


It's pretty obvious to everyone (with a brain) that the problem there is him not doing his research and calling people lolicons, and not anything to do with him disliking the character designs.
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AceMos
10/29/19 8:11:24 PM
#179:


you really no how to hold a grudge dont you

fact is you said he should not be allowed to work in the game industry when he has done alot to expose the corruption in it
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Darmik
10/29/19 8:12:39 PM
#180:


Where did he call people lolicons
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:15:49 PM
#181:


Darmik posted...
Where did he call people lolicons


First result on google images

AceMos posted...
you really no how to hold a grudge dont you

fact is you said he should not be allowed to work in the game industry when he has done alot to expose the corruption in it


ProbablyaCat posted...
Can you quote where I said anything about him reporting on rockstar?
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AceMos
10/29/19 8:17:18 PM
#182:


you flat out said he should not be allowed to be a game journalist which means you think he should not have been allowed to report on rockstars disgusting crunch practices
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Darmik
10/29/19 8:21:17 PM
#183:


ProbablyaCat posted...
First result on google images


I can barely read it but according to one of the threads that posted it he admits he didn't know what lolicon was in the same topic.

So basically you think he should be blacklisted from his job because he called a character lolicon bait on a message board 6 years ago.

God damn.
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Irony
10/29/19 8:22:23 PM
#184:


Darmik posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
First result on google images
So basically you think he should be blacklisted from his job because he called a character lolicon bait on a message board 6 years ago.

Yes. Welcome to real life
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omniryu
10/29/19 8:22:24 PM
#185:


@Balnazarr posted...
Of course CE would love for them to all be fired. How dare anyone talk about politics in games....REEEE! We want our games to be as sexist and offensive as possible!!

REEE is something you can say as offensive as possible.
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AceMos
10/29/19 8:25:04 PM
#186:


Irony posted...
Darmik posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
First result on google images
So basically you think he should be blacklisted from his job because he called a character lolicon bait on a message board 6 years ago.

Yes. Welcome to real life

thats not how real life works thoe......
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ProbablyaCat
10/29/19 8:29:44 PM
#187:


Darmik posted...
ProbablyaCat posted...
First result on google images


I can barely read it but according to one of the threads that posted it he admits he didn't know what lolicon was in the same topic.

So basically you think he should be blacklisted from his job because he called a character lolicon bait on a message board 6 years ago.

God damn.


I think he's dishonest, and pretending calling people lolicons for disagreeing with you is no big deal is also incredibly dishonest. If I called you a pedophile and then claimed I didn't know what the term meant, I'm sure you'd consider me an honest and upstanding individual like Jason Schreier :)
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Darmik
10/29/19 8:33:57 PM
#188:


He didn't call people lolicons. He called a character lolicon bait.

If the only thing you've got is a dumb message board post he did 6 years ago during an argument then it's just whatever really. He's more than made up for it with his work since then.
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Esrac
10/29/19 9:32:10 PM
#189:


Darmik posted...
"Sure you've done in-depth exposes on many gaming studios but you shouldn't be hired because you said the character design in Dragons Crown was bad 10 years ago"

Gamers lol


Ok. But who cares about those exposes?
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AceMos
10/29/19 9:33:33 PM
#190:


Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...
"Sure you've done in-depth exposes on many gaming studios but you shouldn't be hired because you said the character design in Dragons Crown was bad 10 years ago"

Gamers lol


Ok. But who cares about those exposes?

err i do

hearing the horrid shit companies do is a good thing kotaku's article on crunch is what got the ball rolling of all the horror stories we now know about the issue
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Darmik
10/29/19 9:37:14 PM
#191:


Esrac posted...
Darmik posted...
"Sure you've done in-depth exposes on many gaming studios but you shouldn't be hired because you said the character design in Dragons Crown was bad 10 years ago"

Gamers lol


Ok. But who cares about those exposes?


Lots of people. I see stuff regurgitated on the internet from them pretty often.

He's also writing a second book focused on them.
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Zack_Attackv1
10/29/19 9:39:05 PM
#192:


And nothing of any considerable value was lost.
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Gamerguymass
10/29/19 9:43:48 PM
#193:


AceMos posted...
ok thats 2 strikes i will ask one last time how are kotaku scum dont use buzz words this time actually explain things they have done


"Give me an answer but I will ignore any I don't like."
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10/29/19 9:46:26 PM
#194:


Celebrate good times, COME ON~!
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evil_zombie11
10/29/19 9:47:33 PM
#195:


Losers that couldn't make it as real journalists went and took gaming journalism to annoying political levels to prove they were deep and could write think pieces, when all we wanted was gaming insight.
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AceMos
10/29/19 9:47:45 PM
#196:


Gamerguymass posted...
AceMos posted...
ok thats 2 strikes i will ask one last time how are kotaku scum dont use buzz words this time actually explain things they have done


"Give me an answer but I will ignore any I don't like."

but he didnt do that he just called them scum and would not give reasons why
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AceMos
10/29/19 9:48:28 PM
#197:


evil_zombie11 posted...
Losers that couldn't make it as real journalists went and took gaming journalism to annoying political levels to prove they were deep and could write think pieces, when all we wanted was gaming insight.

no i wanted actual news about the industry including the toxic things that go on in it

again its thanks to kotaku we know just how bad crunch culture in gaming is
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Darmik
10/29/19 9:48:45 PM
#198:


evil_zombie11 posted...
when all we wanted was gaming insight.


Like what?
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AceMos
10/29/19 9:49:31 PM
#199:


Darmik posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
when all we wanted was gaming insight.


Like what?

stuff that makes AAA publishers look good so he dont have to know the vile things that go on and he can pretend the world is fairy sugar and unicorn farts
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evil_zombie11
10/29/19 9:50:51 PM
#200:


AceMos posted...
evil_zombie11 posted...
Losers that couldn't make it as real journalists went and took gaming journalism to annoying political levels to prove they were deep and could write think pieces, when all we wanted was gaming insight.

no i wanted actual news about the industry including the toxic things that go on in it

again its thanks to kotaku we know just how bad crunch culture in gaming is


They had a little good stuff, but yeah.
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