Current Events > Did we all forget that Elizabeth Warren lied about being Native American?

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The_Ivory_Man
10/31/19 4:45:34 PM
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She was one of those people who go "oh my great great grandma was like part Cherokee" but instead of just saying it she actually tried to use it to get an advantage or put herself where she didn't belong despite having no real indication of actual ancestry, and from the DNA tests she's within the margin of error for it.

So it's you maybe have an ancestor with ancestry while she called herself Native American when nobody else would.

I mean if you look at her cookbook where she refers to herself as Cherokee imagine somebody listing Bruce Lee in a book on German martial artists, more people would be willing to call it out there.

I don't think she's a terrible person for trusting something her mother said early on, but I have no idea why she clung onto it and used it on forms.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:48:43 PM
#53:


CyricZ posted...
Karl, you're a bad faith operator. One of the worst on this site.

No amount of derision from your pushing of lies and deceit is too great.

Close your account.


Post one bad faith example by me in an intellectual discussion, and I'll close my account. You have 30 minutes and 1 try.
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Bishop9800
10/31/19 4:49:34 PM
#54:


karlpilkington4 posted...
just got out of Purgatory.


You'll be back there soon.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:50:41 PM
#55:


Bishop9800 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
just got out of Purgatory.


You'll be back there soon.


Its a hard life for a guy who gets discriminated against.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 4:55:16 PM
#57:


Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
just got out of Purgatory.


You'll be back there soon.


Its a hard life for a guy who gets discriminated against.

CYChYfh


Your post is broken. I know its exciting to make up lies against people, but take your time.
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Raikuro
10/31/19 4:58:00 PM
#58:


Eh at least she admit her honest mistake. Meanwhile Trump is still desperately hiding his tax returns lol
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 5:00:26 PM
#60:


Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
just got out of Purgatory.


You'll be back there soon.


Its a hard life for a guy who gets discriminated against.

CYChYfh


Your post is broken. I know its exciting to make up lies against people, but take your time.

It's a gif of crying, which is what you are doing


But I'm not crying...
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JE19426
10/31/19 5:01:48 PM
#61:


karlpilkington4 posted...
My source is Elizabeth Warren apologizing for lying. Like...wow


The problem is, she didn't apology for lying.

konokonohamaru posted...
The pathetic thing is that the Native American tribe that she claimed to be part of actually came out and said it's not based on DNA anyway


She didn't claim to be a member of any tribe either.
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Gobstoppers12
10/31/19 5:06:39 PM
#62:


Raikuro posted...
Eh at least she admit her honest mistake. Meanwhile Trump is still desperately hiding his tax returns lol

When did she admit her lies about "being fired" from her teaching job because of her pregnancy? It wasn't a one-off, either. She's used the story before.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 5:07:56 PM
#63:


JE19426 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
My source is Elizabeth Warren apologizing for lying. Like...wow


The problem is, she didn't apology for lying.

konokonohamaru posted...
The pathetic thing is that the Native American tribe that she claimed to be part of actually came out and said it's not based on DNA anyway


She didn't claim to be a member of any tribe either.


Imagine ignoring actual facts
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Tyranthraxus
10/31/19 5:08:36 PM
#64:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Imagine ignoring actual facts


Trump's an expert at that

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creativerealms
10/31/19 5:08:36 PM
#65:


The right, especially Trump, will never let us forget.
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JE19426
10/31/19 5:08:47 PM
#66:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Imagine ignoring actual facts


Why would I need to imagine whatI can see you are doing?
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 5:09:54 PM
#67:


JE19426 posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Imagine ignoring actual facts


Why would I need to imagine whatI can see you are doing?

So she apologized for what exactly?
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JE19426
10/31/19 5:16:41 PM
#68:


karlpilkington4 posted...
So she apologized for what exactly?


She apologised for implying that DNA was important to determine tribal citizenship, and for taking the DNA test.
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Bishop9800
10/31/19 5:31:38 PM
#69:


karlpilkington4 posted...

Its a hard life for a guy who gets discriminated against.


by who?
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Tmaster148
10/31/19 5:35:06 PM
#71:


Because this is a bigger deal than the current traitor we have in office selling the US and allies out to foreign dictators.
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KyerWiz
10/31/19 5:42:07 PM
#72:


This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 5:57:35 PM
#74:


Bullet_Wing posted...
KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.

It's absolutely hypocritical how much people like TC whine about Warren, but let Trump get a free pass on everything


No one is whining. I'm just stating facts. KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.


I'm not paying 1 dollar to read an article that is completely biased and misleading in of of itself. A number of alleged "lies" that they stated Trump apparently made on the video arent even lies lmao.
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jumi
10/31/19 6:04:30 PM
#75:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.


What about the literally hundreds of thousands of things Trump has lied about? Or the other Democrats?

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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:06:56 PM
#76:


jumi posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.


What about the literally hundreds of thousands of things Trump has lied about? Or the other Democrats?


If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?
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Machete
10/31/19 6:07:04 PM
#77:


Bullet_Wing posted...
KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.

It's absolutely hypocritical how much people like TC whine about Warren, but let Trump get a free pass on everything


Especially when this is the first fucking thing he does right after serving a purgatory sentence >_>
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KyerWiz
10/31/19 6:07:05 PM
#78:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.

It's absolutely hypocritical how much people like TC whine about Warren, but let Trump get a free pass on everything


No one is whining. I'm just stating facts. KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.


I'm not paying 1 dollar to read an article that is completely biased and misleading in of of itself. A number of alleged "lies" that they stated Trump apparently made on the video arent even lies lmao.

First, you are misrepresenting the story about Warren. Second, you are blowing it way out of proportion. Third, you do it to support a notorious pathological liar and somehow come to the conclusion that Warren, not Trump is the liar.

If you've been living under a rock for the past three years, it's not exactly a bold claim that he's a serial liar. If you don't like that link, check any other, I merely picked the first one.

Let me Google that for you
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=number+of+times+trump+lied&s=g

Feel free to go through all of these lies and explain to us why they're actually the truth.
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Machete
10/31/19 6:09:58 PM
#79:


He won't do that, KyerWiz
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vigorm0rtis
10/31/19 6:10:31 PM
#80:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Big eye roll whenever a Trumper brings this up tbh

FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.

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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:14:08 PM
#81:


vigorm0rtis posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Big eye roll whenever a Trumper brings this up tbh

FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


No she isnt, unless you mean like 1/1000 which pretty much every white person is.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:20:04 PM
#82:


KyerWiz posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.

It's absolutely hypocritical how much people like TC whine about Warren, but let Trump get a free pass on everything


No one is whining. I'm just stating facts. KyerWiz posted...
This whole story is proof of the insanity of the Trump cult.

They go all the way back to when Warren applied to Harvard to point out that time she made an exaggeration to benefit her. Meanwhile, Trump lies and exaggerates every single time he feels it puts him in a slightly better light than the truth.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/14/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

President Trump has made 13,435 false or misleading claims over 993 days. But sure, Warren is the liar because she overstated her native ancestry 30 years ago.


I'm not paying 1 dollar to read an article that is completely biased and misleading in of of itself. A number of alleged "lies" that they stated Trump apparently made on the video arent even lies lmao.

First, you are misrepresenting the story about Warren. Second, you are blowing it way out of proportion. Third, you do it to support a notorious pathological liar and somehow come to the conclusion that Warren, not Trump is the liar.

If you've been living under a rock for the past three years, it's not exactly a bold claim that he's a serial liar. If you don't like that link, check any other, I merely picked the first one.

Feel free to go through all of these lies and explain to us why they're actually the truth.


The tally was last tabulated on Aug. 5, the presidents 928th day in office, and includes 190 lies that the Mexico border wall is being built and 186 fibs about the U.S. economy being the best in history.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-has-made-more-than-12000-false-or-misleading-claims-since-becoming-president-wapo

The wall is being built, and there is a difference between hyperbole in casual speech and a lie. The economy right now is better than its been in over 10 years, and can be compared to the best in the U.S history.

These "lies" are BS exaggerations by left wing media. They can take their own lies, and their stupid paywall websites and shove it.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:23:23 PM
#84:


Machete posted...
He won't do that, KyerWiz


You should probably delete this before anyone else sees it.
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Ruvan22
10/31/19 6:23:42 PM
#85:


karlpilkington4 posted...
NeoShadowhen posted...
FarFromFields posted...
She's literally part Native American.


For the record, I dont care about any of this at all.

But there is no evidence she is part Native American. Maybe Central American. DNA tests do not test for Native American.

Although I guess Native Central American is still Native American, but that isnt what she said or meant.

At least thats what I heard. Could be bullshit. I havent looked into it, because as I said, I dont care about any of this at all.


"It's important to note I am not a tribal citizen," Warren said, "and I should have been more mindful of the distinction with tribal citizenship and tribal sovereignty."

Warren apologized last week to Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Bill John Baker for a DNA test she released in October that she said showed "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back several generations.


If DNA tests don't test for "native American" why did Trump say he was going to "walk over and make her test right there" ?
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DBZFlGHTEH
10/31/19 6:25:30 PM
#86:


garan posted...
It's going to be something that gets hammered home if she wins the nomination-- Trump won't ever stop calling her Pocahantas.


Lol
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Machete
10/31/19 6:27:09 PM
#87:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Machete posted...
He won't do that, KyerWiz


You should probably delete this before anyone else sees it.


I have no reason to. A fake news response is no different than no response because it's fake news.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:29:27 PM
#88:


Machete posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Machete posted...
He won't do that, KyerWiz


You should probably delete this before anyone else sees it.


I have no reason to. A fake news response is no different than no response because it's fake news.


You seem confused. The only news report I posted was the one saying Trump lied 2000 some times. So are you confused, or are you saying that the reports are fake?

Let me know
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Taharqa_
10/31/19 6:30:38 PM
#89:


Who gives a shit about that? You got a President that is basically a mob boss that lies every time his lips are moving
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Machete
10/31/19 6:32:13 PM
#90:


karlpilkington4 posted...
Machete posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Machete posted...
He won't do that, KyerWiz


You should probably delete this before anyone else sees it.


I have no reason to. A fake news response is no different than no response because it's fake news.


You seem confused. The only news report I posted was the one saying Trump lied 2000 some times. So are you confused, or are you saying that the reports are fake?

Let me know


If they are saying he lied only 2000something times, they are fake by virtue of downplaying how often he has lied.
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sondast
10/31/19 6:32:53 PM
#91:


But Hilla- Oh wait, But Elizabeth...!
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jumi
10/31/19 6:34:07 PM
#92:


Trump can call her Pocahontas all he wants. On January 20th, 2021, he'll be calling her the same thing as everyone else: Madam President.

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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:36:03 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
jumi posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.


What about the literally hundreds of thousands of things Trump has lied about? Or the other Democrats?


If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?

So you agree Trump should be disqualified?

@karlpilkington4


Dont tag me again. I'm doing multiple things at once.
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:40:23 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
Bullet_Wing posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
jumi posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
Because lying about these types of things should disqualify you from being President.


What about the literally hundreds of thousands of things Trump has lied about? Or the other Democrats?


If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?

So you agree Trump should be disqualified?

@karlpilkington4


Dont tag me again. I'm doing multiple things at once.

Answer the question then


Name an actual lie he's made. Apparantly there's like 12000, shouldnt be too hard for ya
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KyerWiz
10/31/19 6:51:24 PM
#97:


karlpilkington4 posted...
The tally was last tabulated on Aug. 5, the presidents 928th day in office, and includes 190 lies that the Mexico border wall is being built and 186 fibs about the U.S. economy being the best in history.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-has-made-more-than-12000-false-or-misleading-claims-since-becoming-president-wapo

The wall is being built, and there is a difference between hyperbole in casual speech and a lie. The economy right now is better than its been in over 10 years, and can be compared to the best in the U.S history.

These "lies" are BS exaggerations by left wing media. They can take their own lies, and their stupid paywall websites and shove it.

Construction on new segments of the barrier are very recent, a few months at most. Meanwhile, he's been claiming it is being built since 2017. So yes, he lied numerous times about the wall being built "as we speak."

Hyperbole is Trump bread and butter but the problem is he doubles down when asked about it and then uninformed people spread it as the gospel. So no, the US economy is not the best it has ever been. It's far from the most offensive lie, merely an exaggeration to make him look better, to benefit him you might say. Kinda reminds me of something. Oh. Right, this topic. What was it you were saying again? If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?

But for fun, let's take a look at a few others:
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

"Over the last two years, the number of murders in America and Americas major cities has dropped, unlike here (Chicago), by more than 10%."

Chicago has seen a nearly 30% decrease in murders over the past several years. That well outpaces the national decline of just under 7%. Rather than holding the nation back, as Trump suggested, Chicagos progress has contributed to the national decline in violent crime.

"The first so-called second hand information Whistleblower got my phone conversation almost completely wrong."

Trump said that the whistleblower "got my phone conversation almost completely wrong." In reality, the complaint got nearly every detail correct, as the memorandum released by the White House shows.

It was correct on the request that Ukraine investigate the Bidens and the notion that Ukraine might have the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in the 2016 election.

It was correct that Trump aimed to connect the Ukrainians with Giluiani and Barr, even down to the detail of Trump mentioning the two in conjunction.

The complaint described Trump as attempting to pressure Ukraine. That is a matter for the impeachment inquiry to resolve, but the details the whistleblower offered to back that up are correct.


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If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?
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karlpilkington4
10/31/19 6:59:08 PM
#98:


KyerWiz posted...
karlpilkington4 posted...
The tally was last tabulated on Aug. 5, the presidents 928th day in office, and includes 190 lies that the Mexico border wall is being built and 186 fibs about the U.S. economy being the best in history.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-has-made-more-than-12000-false-or-misleading-claims-since-becoming-president-wapo

The wall is being built, and there is a difference between hyperbole in casual speech and a lie. The economy right now is better than its been in over 10 years, and can be compared to the best in the U.S history.

These "lies" are BS exaggerations by left wing media. They can take their own lies, and their stupid paywall websites and shove it.

Construction on new segments of the barrier are very recent, a few months at most. Meanwhile, he's been claiming it is being built since 2017. So yes, he lied numerous times about the wall being built "as we speak."

Hyperbole is Trump bread and butter but the problem is he doubles down when asked about it and then uninformed people spread it as the gospel. So no, the US economy is not the best it has ever been. It's far from the most offensive lie, merely an exaggeration to make him look better, to benefit him you might say. Kinda reminds me of something. Oh. Right, this topic. What was it you were saying again? If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?

But for fun, let's take a look at a few others:
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

"Over the last two years, the number of murders in America and Americas major cities has dropped, unlike here (Chicago), by more than 10%."

Chicago has seen a nearly 30% decrease in murders over the past several years. That well outpaces the national decline of just under 7%. Rather than holding the nation back, as Trump suggested, Chicagos progress has contributed to the national decline in violent crime.

"The first so-called second hand information Whistleblower got my phone conversation almost completely wrong."

Trump said that the whistleblower "got my phone conversation almost completely wrong." In reality, the complaint got nearly every detail correct, as the memorandum released by the White House shows.

It was correct on the request that Ukraine investigate the Bidens and the notion that Ukraine might have the DNC server that was hacked by the Russians in the 2016 election.

It was correct that Trump aimed to connect the Ukrainians with Giluiani and Barr, even down to the detail of Trump mentioning the two in conjunction.

The complaint described Trump as attempting to pressure Ukraine. That is a matter for the impeachment inquiry to resolve, but the details the whistleblower offered to back that up are correct.


karlpilkington4 posted...
If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?


Building a wall takes preparation, you know that right? The wall is being built now, and it requires a plan, architects, etc before actually physically building it. Did he say ""The wall is up in X location as we speak", before it was? No.

And there is a difference between a lie, and basic mistakes, like with your Chicago comment.
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Bishop9800
10/31/19 7:01:30 PM
#99:


@karlpilkington4 posted...
If they lie, they should be disqualified. Not hard to understand, right?


So Trump shouldn't be running again, right?
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Wewillrocku
10/31/19 7:02:12 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Karl, you're a bad faith operator.

lol
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KyerWiz
10/31/19 7:09:25 PM
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karlpilkington4 posted...
Building a wall takes preparation, you know that right? The wall is being built now, and it requires a plan, architects, etc before actually physically building it. Did he say ""The wall is up in X location as we speak", before it was? No.

And there is a difference between a lie, and basic mistakes, like with your Chicago comment.

He did not have the money to build any segment. Remember the shutdown, the national emergency and diverting military budget? Of course if Mexico paid for it like he said they would (another lie!) he wouldn't have had that problem. So no, that is not "being built as we speak" when nothing is going on because they don't have the budget.

Yeah, a basic mistake like stating the exact opposite of what is happening. Trump sure makes a lot of "mistakes."

So was Warren mistaken about her native ancestry?
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