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Garioshi 11/03/19 11:44:33 AM #1: |
Its combat is so barebones that it's straight-up unenjoyable. Xillia 2 has the golden standard for Tales combat imo.
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BignutzisBack 11/03/19 11:45:22 AM #2: |
Cringiest game ever made, Colette made me embarrassed to play that game in front of people and that has never happened before with any game or since.
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PowerOats 11/03/19 11:46:59 AM #3: |
That's why I tell people to start with Symphonia, cuz once you play a game with free run and eventually free chaining, you won't want to come back to older games
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MrMallard 11/03/19 11:49:13 AM #4: |
I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I don't mind being a basic bitch, bc I know what I like.
I finished the Symphonia games earlier this year, though. I really liked the story of the first one, and I'm glad I experienced it. Thank God for auto-battle. --- And I am done with my graceless heart, so tonight I'm gonna cut it out and then restart Now Playing: Yakuza 5, Final Fantasy X-2, Minecraft ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/03/19 11:52:50 AM #5: |
MrMallard posted...
I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. What the fuck --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/03/19 2:27:16 PM #6: |
bump
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bobbaaay 11/03/19 2:44:19 PM #7: |
Garioshi posted...
MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. He's right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/03/19 4:56:06 PM #8: |
bobbaaay posted...
Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. There are maybe 10 truly turn-based games I actually enjoy playing, and 9 of them are Pokemon. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I is smart 11/03/19 5:09:09 PM #10: |
Garioshi posted...
bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. Earthbound better be one of them. --- Tah-rah-rah-boom-dee-aaay, did you get yours todaaay? I got mine yesterdaaay, that's why I walk this way. i.imgur.com/FoxGIbC.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi13579 11/03/19 5:24:24 PM #11: |
I still enjoy it tbqh. The combat is basic (but serviceable), but I like the puzzles (which many of the modern games have scaled back), world (particularly the many towns/cities), sidequests, music, etc. And yes, there's a bit of nostalgia.
To make the combat a little more interesting, I like to use some of the other characters occasionally (mostly Regal, Kratos/Zelos or Presea, in that order). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bobbaaay 11/03/19 5:48:41 PM #12: |
Garioshi posted...
bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. Bad taste isn't an excuse. All dragon quest games are turn based. All srpgs are turn based. All early final fantasies are pseudo turn based. All might and magic games are turn based. If you're talking about strategy and not rpgs - master of magic, all heroes of might and magic, all civ games, all early age of empires games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Illuminoius 11/03/19 5:51:59 PM #13: |
the early 3d tales games had some amazingly stupid cutscenes, though
the combat may not be nearly as fluid and varied as in later games, but there's just a special magic to the crappy voice acting, bad scripting, and pathetic action sequences ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/03/19 6:22:41 PM #14: |
I is smart posted...
Garioshi posted...bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. It's Chrono Cross bobbaaay posted... All early final fantasies are pseudo turn based. They're as turn-based as Tales games, Tales games just replace the ATB bar with endlag. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 11/03/19 7:31:52 PM #15: |
Yeah. Thats kinda why I don't understand people complaining about FF7R Classic mode
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Garioshi 11/03/19 8:20:34 PM #16: |
PowerOats posted...
Yeah. Thats kinda why I don't understand people complaining about FF7R Classic mode Because it's not the same. That's about it. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/03/19 8:25:50 PM #17: |
I've played other Tales games since (Abyss, ToS2, Graces, Vesperia), but none of them have resonated with me as well as Symphonia did. Then again, it was my first and I played through it like seven times. Other Tales games, I seem to only go through once, probably because I have far more games now than I did back then.
...But I've also had both Xillia games on my shelf for years now, and I still haven't gotten around to playing them... --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Delirious_Beard 11/03/19 8:29:12 PM #18: |
i miss the puzzles
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DevsBro 11/03/19 8:31:16 PM #19: |
Symphonia was frankly a bad game.
The pacing was unbearable, it had trillions of those stupid Sorcerer's Ring puzzles, and trillions of those stupid block puzzles, and that totem pole puzzle I ended up having to just brute force because I couldn't (and didn't want to) figure the stupid thing out, and after suffering through it all for the sake of a world and story that were actually rather intriguing, what is my reward? --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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p-m 11/03/19 8:32:11 PM #20: |
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LordMarshal 11/03/19 8:44:07 PM #21: |
Turn based makes every battle take forever.....
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Garioshi 11/03/19 8:56:55 PM #22: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
i miss the puzzles This goes especially for Tales, where every single area including dungeons is either a wide open plane or a set of hallways with only 90 turns. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 11/03/19 9:03:55 PM #23: |
Funny how so many have turned on this game. Back during its prime, people hailed this as the best Tales game of all time and also a contender for GOAT as well.
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Illuminoius 11/03/19 9:05:02 PM #24: |
puzzles in the older tales games were never good
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Garioshi 11/03/19 9:11:48 PM #25: |
Illuminoius posted...
puzzles in the older tales games were never good I don't think they were particularly good by any means, but they were at least more engaging than "run at full speed to the end while avoiding enemy encounters if you can". --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I is smart 11/04/19 12:52:18 AM #26: |
Illuminoius posted...
puzzles in the older tales games were never good No, they really don't. Modern Tales dungeons are hallways with occasional dead ends that you might find a chest at the end of. Give me a reason to have to rub more than two brain cells together for fuck's sake. --- Tah-rah-rah-boom-dee-aaay, did you get yours todaaay? I got mine yesterdaaay, that's why I walk this way. i.imgur.com/FoxGIbC.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 11/04/19 1:03:05 AM #27: |
Symphonia's gameplay didn't age well, but I still love its story and characters. If I ever started getting the itch to re-play the game, I'd just go watch its anime adaptation instead... which is pretty fucking good, by the way.
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Ving_Rhames 11/04/19 1:05:20 AM #28: |
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Garioshi 11/04/19 2:53:38 AM #29: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
Vesperia best dungeons Endless enemy spam is only a couple notches above hallways. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SailorGoon 11/04/19 3:08:14 AM #30: |
Garioshi posted...
bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. Bruh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/04/19 3:32:45 AM #31: |
SailorGoon posted...
Garioshi posted...bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I emphasise "truly". ATB doesn't count. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SailorGoon 11/04/19 3:41:13 AM #32: |
Garioshi posted...
SailorGoon posted...Garioshi posted...bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. My bruh still stands --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 11/04/19 3:56:36 AM #34: |
SailorGoon posted...
Garioshi posted...SailorGoon posted...Garioshi posted...bobbaaay posted...Garioshi posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. What truly turn-based games besides Chrono Cross and some Pokemon games should I enjoy? --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SailorGoon 11/04/19 4:20:28 AM #35: |
Anything from Atlus, Bravely Default, Super Mario RPG, and FFX to name a few
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Garioshi 11/04/19 4:21:22 AM #36: |
SailorGoon posted...
Anything from Atlus, Bravely Default, Super Mario RPG, and FFX to name a few Shit, forgot about FFX. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 11/04/19 1:04:22 PM #37: |
Conflict posted...
MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I don't mind being a basic bitch, bc I know what I like. Yeah, I hated Abyss' Field-of-Fonon mechanic. --- Be wary of boarding the hype train, lest you end up on the ruse cruise... - nanobuilder (r/nintendo) http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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luigi13579 11/04/19 1:29:57 PM #38: |
Garioshi posted...
What truly turn-based games besides Chrono Cross and some Pokemon games should I enjoy? To add to what's been mentioned: Suikoden series, Grandia series. For SRPGs, I enjoy the Super Robot Wars and Shining Force series. I hesitantly recommend Skies of Arcadia Legends (as much as I love the game). The battle system is different enough to be interesting, but the battles are quite slow and the encounter rate high (albeit reduced in Legends). To other JRPG fans: I beat Shadow Hearts just there and wasn't that impressed. Is the second game better and if so, how much? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 11/04/19 1:30:42 PM #39: |
I remember fan ToS fanboys tried to say free run ruined the game LMAO.
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DevsBro 11/04/19 2:23:48 PM #40: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Conflict posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I don't mind being a basic bitch, bc I know what I like. I just ignored it. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaliesto 11/04/19 2:25:37 PM #41: |
I just recently re-finished Tales of Symphonia on PS3, and it's sequel.
I found the sequel a bit worse with it's protagonist that wouldn't stop saying "sorry" until like the very end. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaliesto 11/04/19 2:26:47 PM #42: |
Delirious_Beard posted...
i miss the puzzles We must appeal to the wider dum dums. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/04/19 2:36:45 PM #43: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Conflict posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I don't mind being a basic bitch, bc I know what I like. Tales of the Abyss spoilers/ combo vid You just weren't doing it right if you thought it was messy --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 11/04/19 2:41:05 PM #44: |
Abyss is great
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Kaliesto 11/04/19 2:41:43 PM #45: |
Abyss has potential for a sequel considering what happens with the Protagonist.
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Garioshi 11/04/19 6:57:21 PM #47: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
Conflict posted...MrMallard posted...I just don't like the Tales combat system at all - turn-based or bust, baby. I don't mind being a basic bitch, bc I know what I like. It's literally completely supplementary to the game, you never have to use an FoF change ever --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 11/04/19 6:58:57 PM #48: |
symphonia still holds up. it has the best story and characters of and of the series imo
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Ving_Rhames 11/04/19 8:46:35 PM #49: |
Conflict posted...
It's not even an uncommon opinion that Abyss's combat system was convoluted and annoying. Neat characters (outside of Anise), not-so-neat gameplay. Convoluted how --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeuralLaxative 11/04/19 9:04:47 PM #50: |
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Medzzz 11/04/19 9:05:15 PM #51: |
Second greatest game ever made
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