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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqfhefjQ5w

Very accurate

No lies whatsoever. The game is campy and frustrating as fuck. Luckily there's an update coming that should hopefully help solve the problem.
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quad kill with the throwing knife tho
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Highwind07 posted...

Is it about claymores everywhere?

Yep.

That and the 725 yeah

I uninstalled the game until something is done about the camping and 725 spam. It's just not fun at all to play right now.
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Yeah it's legitimately one of the worst shooters I've ever played right now

GallisOTK posted...

No lies whatsoever. The game is campy and frustrating as fuck. Luckily there's an update coming that should hopefully help solve the problem.

Umm, why would an update solve the problems CoD has? It's had the same issues forever. I suppose the shotgun is a little stronger than usual, but nerfing it won't fix the game.

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Allanon23 posted...

GallisOTK posted...

No lies whatsoever. The game is campy and frustrating as fuck. Luckily there's an update coming that should hopefully help solve the problem.

Umm, why would an update solve the problems CoD has? It's had the same issues forever. I suppose the shotgun is a little stronger than usual, but nerfing it won't fix the game.

I hear people complaining about rushers with SMGs just as much.

Treyarch games lean to rushers and Infinity Ward tend to campers.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I uninstalled the game until something is done about the camping and 725 spam. It's just not fun at all to play right now.

Damn I could never uninstall a game I plan on playing again. Shit takes like half a day to install lol.
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The goddamn .357 is too goddamn fucking weak thats my goddamn problem with the game
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That long ranged shotgun though
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Nothing says "let's go back to the classic COD experience" like a ridiculously overpowered shotgun at launch that will lead to all shotguns being made completely worthless in a few weeks. It's basically just the akimbo from MW2 but worse.
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s0nicfan posted...

Nothing says "let's go back to the classic COD experience" like a ridiculously overpowered shotgun at launch that will lead to all shotguns being made completely worthless in a few weeks. It's basically just the akimbo from MW2 but worse.

Ah the good old days

Never played a CoD game, or at least it's multiplayer

It seems like shotguns are either complete trash or insane.

And snipers are one hit kills? What's the point of sniper headshots then?

why do I keep trying to play this trash

Trying to get your money's worth?

Everyone else plays it?
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It probably is the money's worth thing

Webmaster4531 posted...

Treyarch games lean to rushers and Infinity Ward tend to campers.

The problem is that this game took the balance of power way too far in the campers' favor. In its current state, this game punishes aggressive players and rewards defensive players way too much, to the point where playing aggressively with anything but the 725 shotgun (which is a separate problem entirely) simply isn't viable. You can put every single anti-camping tool possible on your class (EOD, Spotter, stun grenades) and every single stealth option possible (Ghost, a suppressor, and the not-always-active Dead Silence) and a decent amount of the time none of it will matter.

Even some of the most respected faces in the Call Of Duty community like Drift0r and XclusiveAce recognize that there's a severe camping problem, worse than there's been in any previous CoD game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SNaMLczV04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ZCaHbGUv0
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GallisOTK posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

Treyarch games lean to rushers and Infinity Ward tend to campers.

The problem is that this game took the balance of power way too far in the campers' favor. In its current state, this game punishes aggressive players and rewards defense players way too much, to the point where playing aggressively with anything but the 725 shotgun (which is a separate problem entirely) simply isn't viable.

You can put every single anti-camping tool possible on your class (EOD, Spotter, stun grenades) and every single stealth option possible (Ghost, a suppressor, and the not-always-active Dead Silence) and a decent amount of the time none of it will matter.

That's mostly just due to one of the biggest fundamental flaws core to the entire series at this point. They insist on reducing the time-to-action to near zero, which means you can't really pull the spawns away from the action, which means you're forced to make them semi-random based on where everyone is, which means maps have to be somewhat chaotic by design, which means snipers in a corner will never be surprised and will almost always find someone looking the wrong direction.

Until they accept that a little bit of a run from spawn to fight is acceptable, these games will continue to trip over spawn and camper problems.
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s0nicfan posted...

That's mostly just due to one of the biggest fundamental flaws core to the entire series at this point. They insist on reducing the time-to-action to near zero, which means you can't really pull the spawns away from the action, which means you're forced to make them semi-random based on where everyone is, which means maps have to be somewhat chaotic by design, which means snipers in a corner will never be surprised and will almost always find someone looking the wrong direction.

Bad spawns are one of the causes of the trouble, but there are many more than just that. Footstep audio, Dead SIlence not being an always active perk, enemies hearing your team's call-outs, the insanely fast time-to-kill, the cluttered maps with a dozen places to be shot from no matter where you go, the mini-map not showing those campers on the radar when they fire unsuppressed weapons, claymores being insanely powerful and restockable... every single design point about this game favors campers and makes rushing nearly impossible, which results in a game that's slow, boring, campy, and just plain not fun.
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Yeah. The game is basically fundamentally broken right now.

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.
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WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

DarthAragorn posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

Did you play ghosts? It has all the same problems.
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Idk, theres issues but this is somehow still the most fun ive had playing a cod game since Blops1 *shrug emoji*
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Webmaster4531 posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

Did you play ghosts? It has all the same problems.

I honestly forgot about Ghosts

But no, it didn't have the problems to this extent

It was slow paced and campy because the maps were huge but there wasn't one gun that was absurdly overpowered and you could actually be mobile in it

DarthAragorn posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

Did you play ghosts? It has all the same problems.

I honestly forgot about Ghosts

But no, it didn't have the problems to this extent

It was slow paced and campy because the maps were huge but there wasn't one gun that was absurdly overpowered and you could actually be mobile in it

Right, it didn't have the one gun problem. Going to have to disagree on the ability to be mobile.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

DarthAragorn posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

Did you play ghosts? It has all the same problems.

I honestly forgot about Ghosts

But no, it didn't have the problems to this extent

It was slow paced and campy because the maps were huge but there wasn't one gun that was absurdly overpowered and you could actually be mobile in it

Right, it didn't have the one gun problem. Going to have to disagree on the ability to be mobile.

Play MW19 with a mediocre headset.

It's literally impossible to not be heard well before you get anywhere close to someone if you don't have dead silence active. And dead silence isn't a perk. It's bullshit.

WTF was with the range on that shotgun lmao
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DarthAragorn posted...

WerewolfPaws posted...

Im almost convinced that the people with issues over the game didnt actually play CoD4 during its prime.

I've played every CoD as they came out

This is by far the worst one

Unless its a constant screen of dogs shitting all over freshly washed cars, it isnt worse than Ghost.
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This game has more good aspects than Ghosts, but the main bad thing that have in common (AKA being slow and campy) is somehow even worse than it ever was in Ghosts or any other CoD game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqnXp6Saa8Y
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I guess a patch is coming soon

It can't nerf claymores and the 725 hard enough

Holy fuck this game sucks lmao

Tempted to just uninstall because it's so bad rn but that download size

i saw Cr1tikal's review where he mentioned that the multiplayer maps were designed with campers in mind.

if this is true, i dunno if i'll get it...

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

i saw Cr1tikal's review where he mentioned that the multiplayer maps were designed with campers in mind.

if this is true, i dunno if i'll get it...

The entire game is designed with campers in mind basically

So I forgot that I'd accidentally installed the game to both the HDD and SSD. Decided to run the FAL for shits and giggles and went 18-5 lmao what is this game
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You'd probably go 5-18 next game

I consider it a win-win. If I do well, I get to humiliate people by killing them with the FAL, and if I don't, I tank my k/d and it puts me in worse lobbies.
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I really wish they'd remove that shitty matchmaking

Claymores can't be nerfed, there's already a perk to reduce the damage from them. The problem is the maps, there are 500 corners and nooks to hide claymores (or otherwise just camp) AND you can get a perk to regen them over time (ie: while camping)

The first step to fixing the game starts with completely changing all the maps to be less of a clusterfuck of random objects to hide in, but I don't see that happening

I have no idea how these are actually the same dudes who made the first Modern Warfare games

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I just want to play prime WAW again t b h
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viewmaster_pi posted...

Claymores can't be nerfed, there's already a perk to reduce the damage from them. The problem is the maps, there are 500 corners and nooks to hide claymores (or otherwise just camp) AND you can get a perk to regen them over time (ie: while camping)

The first step to fixing the game starts with completely changing all the maps to be less of a clusterfuck of random objects to hide in, but I don't see that happening

I have no idea how these are actually the same dudes who made the first Modern Warfare games

Most of the original creative force behind those games have long since left.
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viewmaster_pi posted...

Claymores can't be nerfed, there's already a perk to reduce the damage from them. The problem is the maps, there are 500 corners and nooks to hide claymores (or otherwise just camp) AND you can get a perk to regen them over time (ie: while camping)

The first step to fixing the game starts with completely changing all the maps to be less of a clusterfuck of random objects to hide in, but I don't see that happening

I have no idea how these are actually the same dudes who made the first Modern Warfare games

Sure they can be

Can only have one deployed at any time, add back the delay before explosion that older games had, reduce the insane radius

But you're right that the maps are fundamentally fucked

Also the leads on MW1 and 2 founded and are with Respawn now

viewmaster_pi posted...

Claymores can't be nerfed, there's already a perk to reduce the damage from them. The problem is the maps, there are 500 corners and nooks to hide claymores (or otherwise just camp) AND you can get a perk to regen them over time (ie: while camping)

The first step to fixing the game starts with completely changing all the maps to be less of a clusterfuck of random objects to hide in, but I don't see that happening

I have no idea how these are actually the same dudes who made the first Modern Warfare games

They've nerfed them before. Just change the perk to allow "regen" by picking them off corpses but only if said player also had one and add more delay to the trigger so if they're right on a corner you can sprint past and take nonfatal damage.

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The maps are too fucking big and why is there a max of 6 maps in the rotation? Seriously who thought of that

The claymore shit is ridiculous. You die way too fast in this game. I rarely ever finish a game before the times up. The time is finishing up and the score is 22-20
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