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RieTakahash
11/13/19 6:28:53 AM
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Regardless of how long it's been, or how far from bad you were at any point... It just completely invalidates so much work.

Sucks man
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King10Spades
11/13/19 6:35:29 AM
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So don't do it.
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RieTakahash
11/13/19 6:37:17 AM
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King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

Ya yeet
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Orchestrion
11/13/19 6:41:04 AM
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I dont think it invalidates anything. Recovery is a winding road, there are always going to be changes. Take it a day at a time, ya know?
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R1masher
11/13/19 6:49:50 AM
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This have anything to do with no nut November ?
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:05:20 AM
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Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.
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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:07:17 AM
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LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

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whitelytning
11/13/19 7:09:45 AM
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It doesn't invalidate anything. You were still sober or clean for the amount of time before the relapse and you can do it again and longer after the relapse. There isn't a simple solution to these things and the struggle will last and relapses do happen. Try to use it as something to learn and grown from.
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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:15:07 AM
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LampChop posted...
OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

TC you got this. Message me if you need to talk!

Or blaming others for their own faults, and never owning up to it.

Where was anyone blaming anyone else here? Where were they denying their faults?
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eston
11/13/19 7:15:09 AM
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King10Spades
11/13/19 7:15:48 AM
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OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

TC you got this. Message me if you need to talk!


Umm. It isn't hard to not do drugs.
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King10Spades
11/13/19 7:15:58 AM
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Or drink excessively.
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:16:29 AM
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Relapse is part of recovery. Nothing's invalidated. You ran a hard race for a while and you stumbled, that's all. I don't count days, never have, although I am aware that I'm coming up on 17 years, if I went out and got drunk, I'd still have those 17 years, and then I'd have anything else I could muster after.

And fuck off, Lambchop.

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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:17:20 AM
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King10Spades posted...
OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

TC you got this. Message me if you need to talk!


Umm. It isn't hard to not do drugs.

In a vacuum? Maybe. When you consider addiction and the many, many issues that tend to lead to it? It's a lot more understandable.
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:18:13 AM
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OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

TC you got this. Message me if you need to talk!

Or blaming others for their own faults, and never owning up to it.

Where was anyone blaming anyone else here? Where were they denying their faults?


And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.
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haloiscoolisbak
11/13/19 7:18:44 AM
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Be stronger
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:19:16 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Relapse is part of recovery. Nothing's invalidated. You ran a hard race for a while and you stumbled, that's all. I don't count days, never have, although I am aware that I'm coming up on 17 years, if I went out and got drunk, I'd still have those 17 years, and then I'd have anything else I could muster after.

And fuck off, Lambchop.

No, you fuck off and stop making excuses for people's own fucking actions.
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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:19:27 AM
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LampChop posted...
OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
Unless you're talking about a disease, I'm sorry to hear that. If it's certain habits, that's 100% on you. No sympathy there.

King10Spades posted...
So don't do it.

And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

TC you got this. Message me if you need to talk!

Or blaming others for their own faults, and never owning up to it.

Where was anyone blaming anyone else here? Where were they denying their faults?


And this is part of why recovery is so hard, ignorant people that know nothing about addiction making it worse.

Hey Bro, I'm not an addict. I just work in the field. Calling you out for shitty things you say is not blaming you for it.
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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:20:00 AM
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LampChop posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Relapse is part of recovery. Nothing's invalidated. You ran a hard race for a while and you stumbled, that's all. I don't count days, never have, although I am aware that I'm coming up on 17 years, if I went out and got drunk, I'd still have those 17 years, and then I'd have anything else I could muster after.

And fuck off, Lambchop.

No, you fuck off and stop making excuses for people's own fucking actions.

When you can make excuses for your own actions, you can talk about others.
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:20:20 AM
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LampChop posted...
No, you fuck off and stop making excuses for people's own fucking actions.


I didn't make any excuses. But I don't kick people when they're down 'cause I'm not a bitch.

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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:20:57 AM
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Also, I like you "subtly" trying to claim addiction isn't a disease.
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whitelytning
11/13/19 7:22:38 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Also, I like you "subtly" trying to claim addiction isn't a disease.


I don't think its that subtle. It looks more like bad trolling to me. He still didn't even answer the question you asked him when he quoted it. Looks like just shit posting really.
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eston
11/13/19 7:23:38 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Also, I like you "subtly" trying to claim addiction isn't a disease.

Good luck getting that point across. I think you're wasting your time on this person
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:25:38 AM
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OctilIery posted...
LampChop posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Relapse is part of recovery. Nothing's invalidated. You ran a hard race for a while and you stumbled, that's all. I don't count days, never have, although I am aware that I'm coming up on 17 years, if I went out and got drunk, I'd still have those 17 years, and then I'd have anything else I could muster after.

And fuck off, Lambchop.

No, you fuck off and stop making excuses for people's own fucking actions.

When you can make excuses for your own actions, you can talk about others.

I don't. I'm not an addict.

vigorm0rtis posted...
LampChop posted...
No, you fuck off and stop making excuses for people's own fucking actions.


I didn't make any excuses. But I don't kick people when they're down 'cause I'm not a bitch.

You certainly like starting shit though. And no, I didn't kick anyone when they were down. I simply said, stop making excuses for what you do in your own life, with your own two hands. That's not kicking anyone, just awareness, and reality.
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RieTakahash
11/13/19 7:27:18 AM
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Hey I may be an addict for the rest of my life, but at least I'll never be as big of a dick as that guy.

But yeah, time to not only go back to being fine, but use this as a point to better certain things even further.

Swag.
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:27:32 AM
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Hey Bro, I'm not an addict. I just work in the field. Calling you out for shitty things you say is not blaming you for it.

But you just literally fucking said it!
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:27:56 AM
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LampChop posted...
I don't. I'm not an addict.

You certainly like starting shit though. And no, I didn't kick anyone when they were done. I simply said, stop making excuses for what you do in your own life, with your own hands. That's not kicking anyone, just awareness, and a slap of reality.


No, keep it up. Being bitchmade seems like your thing, you're good at it. Also keep it up with the ignorance, you're killing it.

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eston
11/13/19 7:28:34 AM
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Yeah, just rest easy in knowing that as bad as it gets you'll never be the asshole who trolls somebody for relapsing
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:30:45 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
LampChop posted...
I don't. I'm not an addict.

You certainly like starting shit though. And no, I didn't kick anyone when they were done. I simply said, stop making excuses for what you do in your own life, with your own hands. That's not kicking anyone, just awareness, and a slap of reality.


No, keep it up. Being bitchmade seems like your thing, you're good at it. Also keep it up with the ignorance, you're killing it.

With that attitude, it's no wonder why you're acting the way that you do. But I'll just stop there. I'll get more out of my time talking to a wall.
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King10Spades
11/13/19 7:30:49 AM
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OctilIery posted...
Also, I like you "subtly" trying to claim addiction isn't a disease.


Addiction isn't a disease. It is a choice.
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:31:54 AM
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eston posted...
Yeah, just rest easy in knowing that as bad as it gets you'll never be the asshole who trolls somebody for relapsing

Yes. Blame trolling. Its always trolling. I don't like what this guy is saying, so it's trolling. Oh CE.
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:32:20 AM
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King10Spades posted...
Addiction isn't a disease. It is a choice.


Science disagrees with you. Get your flu shot this year?

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WarDog2016
11/13/19 7:35:15 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
I dont think it invalidates anything. Recovery is a winding road, there are always going to be changes. Take it a day at a time, ya know?

Yeah but that's the problem with the mind of an addict. Everything is all or nothing with them, that's how they slip into the bad behavior in the first place. "Oh my life isnt going exactly how I want, so what's the point, okay where is the crack pipe?"
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RieTakahash
11/13/19 7:37:20 AM
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Why did I post this lol y'all are crazy
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King10Spades
11/13/19 7:38:10 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
King10Spades posted...
Addiction isn't a disease. It is a choice.


Science disagrees with you. Get your flu shot this year?


No. I don't get flu shots.
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:38:52 AM
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WarDog2016 posted...
Yeah but that's the problem with the mind of an addict. Everything is all or nothing with them, that's how they slip into the bad behavior in the first place. "Oh my life isnt going exactly how I want, so what's the point, okay where is the crack pipe?"


Eh, I found the "all or nothing" attitude less prevalent that I thought I would, but I'm not a fan of the 12 step programs, and one of the reasons is the 'day tally' they officially or unofficially encourage. Holding up 3000 days can look like a monumental task to someone who really has to take it one day at a time.

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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:39:08 AM
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King10Spades posted...
No. I don't get flu shots.


Shocked.

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HBOSS
11/13/19 7:40:20 AM
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relapse is a setback. the failure is when you do not want to be treated.

setbacks happen. its part of the process. its not invalidating anything with the right mindset. you know what it takes and how it pulled you back.
Learn from it. what triggered the behavior? what events led to that relapse. youre not as helpless as you think.

you start day 1 again and go in knowing you can share this recent struggles in order to help others as they continue their journey. use the sponsor system - be honest and open. youre not alone in this.

you got this. good luck


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LampChop
11/13/19 7:41:07 AM
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WarDog2016 posted...
Orchestrion posted...
I dont think it invalidates anything. Recovery is a winding road, there are always going to be changes. Take it a day at a time, ya know?

Yeah but that's the problem with the mind of an addict. Everything is all or nothing with them, that's how they slip into the bad behavior in the first place. "Oh my life isnt going exactly how I want, so what's the point, okay where is the crack pipe?"

Yeah careful, knowing the mods, they will mark you, and me, even though we didn't break any TOS. You can go tell people to go fuck themselves, but telling them their life is in their own hands? TROLL! *marked* Better off avoiding this board.
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RieTakahash
11/13/19 7:41:52 AM
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We would be better off with you avoiding this board.
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LampChop
11/13/19 7:43:19 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
King10Spades posted...
No. I don't get flu shots.


Shocked.

But you know what that's called? A choice!
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eston
11/13/19 7:44:56 AM
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RieTakahash posted...
We would be better off with you avoiding this board.

Just use the ignore feature. I guarantee you won't be missing any quality posts from these two
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HypnoCoosh
11/13/19 7:45:03 AM
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Look at all the tough internet warriors talking shit about addiction when they have no experience.

Fucking CE.

You havent failed TC you just havent finished the process.
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vigorm0rtis
11/13/19 7:45:17 AM
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LampChop posted...
But you know what that's called? A choice!


Yeah, I'm aware that dumbassed choices are choices.

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LampChop
11/13/19 7:45:52 AM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
Why are you guys being dicks to a guy who's in a shit situation?

You got people calling me a bitch, and telling me to fuck off, because I said you're responsible for your own actions, and I'm the dick? Ok.
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eston
11/13/19 7:49:18 AM
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You got people calling you a bitch for acting like a bitch. The best way to avoid that is to stop acting like a bitch.
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AlisLandale
11/13/19 7:50:24 AM
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LampChop posted...
You got people calling me a bitch, and telling me to fuck off, because I said you're responsible for your own actions, and I'm the dick? Ok.


TC posted nothing except a lament about how they feel about a relapse.

you came in and projected some hate bone on addicts into the topic, saying a whole bunch of stuff thats irrelevant just to stir the pot.

grow up and learn some self awareness if you want people to treat you better

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RieTakahash
11/13/19 7:50:49 AM
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Can't we all be nice Jesus fuck
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OctilIery
11/13/19 7:51:39 AM
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Sorry TC, I shouldn't have engaged him.
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