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refmon
11/15/19 6:29:23 PM
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https://tv.avclub.com/south-park-recognizes-the-need-for-nuance-without-actua-1839848663

Trash show continues to be trash. Not surprising considering that other dolphin episode
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Irony
11/15/19 6:30:10 PM
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Yeah that episode where Gerald became a dolphin was pretty offensive to dolphins

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11/15/19 6:30:25 PM
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refmon posted...
Trash show

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AngelsNAirwav3s
11/15/19 6:31:49 PM
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Episode was hilarious

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Blue_Inigo
11/15/19 6:32:00 PM
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CE's bigots are gonna come out in full force to talk about how great this episode is
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spudger
11/15/19 6:33:47 PM
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refmon posted...
https://tv.avclub.com/south-park-recognizes-the-need-for-nuance-without-actua-1839848663

Trash show continues to be trash. Not surprising considering that other dolphin episode

is it about how unfair it is for mtf trans persons competing in women's sports?

cuz it is
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The Trent
11/15/19 6:34:28 PM
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This makes me so MAD slash OFFENDED
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YourDrunkFather
11/15/19 6:35:06 PM
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Cartoons are serious business

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AmericaTheBrave
11/15/19 6:35:07 PM
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There's gonna be such a backlash when people are finally fed up with transwomen competing in women's sports.
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Guide
11/15/19 6:38:27 PM
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I haven't watched it, but it's South Park. They get free reign to bust literally everyone's balls.

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RickyTheBAWSE
11/15/19 6:39:58 PM
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cancel South Park!
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spudger
11/15/19 6:42:54 PM
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you know this is trolling b/c tc never came back to this topic
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Esrac
11/15/19 6:44:00 PM
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Bad review is bad.
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DK9292
11/15/19 6:46:07 PM
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spudger posted...
you know this is trolling b/c tc never came back to this topic

Are you fucking shitting me.

So if you come back to a topic, you're a troll. If you don't, then you're a troll.

Fuck's sake.
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11/15/19 6:46:45 PM
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12amMadman
11/15/19 6:49:20 PM
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This season has been pretty good

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Wetterdew
11/15/19 6:49:39 PM
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South park is really crappy about their depictions of trans people, as far as I know there isn't really a single genuine trans person on the show, they're all just either confused and treated as jokes like mr garrison or just lying and treated as jokes where you laugh at how vulgar and male they're being despite identifying as female like Heather in the s23 episode. I don't think they've ever once grappled with trans people on a level beyond making low-reaching jokes about how funny it is to see trans people not matching their gender
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Guide
11/15/19 6:50:53 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
South park is really crappy about their depictions of trans people, as far as I know there isn't really a single genuine trans person on the show, they're all just either confused and treated as jokes like mr garrison or just lying and treated as jokes where you laugh at how vulgar and male they're being despite identifying as female like Heather in the s23 episode. I don't think they've ever once grappled with trans people on a level beyond making low-reaching jokes about how funny it is to see trans people not matching their gender


Kyle and Stan are literally the only two entities resembling genuine people on the show.

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Gobstoppers12
11/15/19 6:51:02 PM
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Guide posted...
I haven't watched it, but it's South Park. They get free reign to bust literally everyone's balls.

This. I'm not touching any of the subject matter here (I promised not to do that anymore) but South Park takes equal shots at every group of people in the world. They're the definition of a Chaotic Neutral television show.
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DespondentDeity
11/15/19 6:53:25 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
There's gonna be such a backlash when people are finally fed up with transwomen competing in women's sports.


I mean, real women are already fed up with it, but all the pc babies are stifling their ability to speak out on issues that affect them in the most severe ways.
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boxington
11/15/19 6:54:08 PM
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the episode was pretty lame, IMO, and kinda late to be topical.

the only good thing about modern South Park is PC Principal. dude's just way too absurdly hilarious.

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Superlinkbro
11/15/19 6:54:22 PM
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I use to watch it not too long ago. It's ok, but not my type of humor.

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spudger
11/15/19 6:55:05 PM
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DK9292 posted...
spudger posted...
you know this is trolling b/c tc never came back to this topic

Are you fucking shitting me.

So if you come back to a topic, you're a troll. If you don't, then you're a troll.

Fuck's sake.

when you vaguely shitpost about trans issues to troll ce?...its fucking trolling

shut the fuck up
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PleaseClap
11/15/19 6:55:15 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
South park is really crappy about their depictions of trans people, as far as I know there isn't really a single genuine trans person on the show, they're all just either confused and treated as jokes like mr garrison or just lying and treated as jokes where you laugh at how vulgar and male they're being despite identifying as female like Heather in the s23 episode. I don't think they've ever once grappled with trans people on a level beyond making low-reaching jokes about how funny it is to see trans people not matching their gender

They actually had a pretty decent take about the bathroom issue and randy being lorde (which is still the funniest thing ever). The Cissy was a pretty good episode, which was kind of surprising after how they dealt with garrison and that godawful dolphin episode.
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Joenage
11/15/19 6:55:25 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
South park is really crappy about their depictions of trans people, as far as I know there isn't really a single genuine trans person on the show, they're all just either confused and treated as jokes like mr garrison or just lying and treated as jokes where you laugh at how vulgar and male they're being despite identifying as female like Heather in the s23 episode. I don't think they've ever once grappled with trans people on a level beyond making low-reaching jokes about how funny it is to see trans people not matching their gender
Its almost as if its a comedy show or something

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DK9292
11/15/19 6:55:40 PM
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spudger posted...
DK9292 posted...
spudger posted...
you know this is trolling b/c tc never came back to this topic

Are you fucking shitting me.

So if you come back to a topic, you're a troll. If you don't, then you're a troll.

Fuck's sake.

when you vaguely shitpost about trans issues to troll ce?...its fucking trolling

shut the fuck up

That's not what you said.
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_Rinku_
11/15/19 6:55:55 PM
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Amazing how many people watched this episode and failed to grasp its extremely blunt message: this is a nuanced issue.
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emmo
11/15/19 7:01:44 PM
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Funny episode. Not the strongest, but certainly some great moments. As for whatever you may think of the satire: it's fucking South Park. Loosen up and laugh a little, or don't watch it.

If you find yourself unable to take a cartoon worth a grain of salt, you have larger issues than how that cartoon may have offended you.

What's really funny is watching people react exactly how the show depicted they would.
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Kastrada
11/15/19 7:04:46 PM
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So I'm confused a bit on the controversy.

The Randy Savage guy was a misogynist who used to date Strong Woman. He faked being a trans-woman to exert his strength on them/take advantage of them. Then when he actually lost at something to the girls, he and Cartman both took the side of the girl's having an "unfair advantage" which is the argument against trans-women in sports right? And Cartman is NEVER used as the voice of reason.

I don't know. I watched it late last night so maybe I need a re-watch?


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tigerslashII
11/15/19 7:06:16 PM
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The episode's ultimate point was a little muddled but the demonstration of Macho Man Randy Savage as Heather was absolutely perfect.

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Wetterdew
11/15/19 7:06:38 PM
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Guide posted...
Wetterdew posted...
South park is really crappy about their depictions of trans people, as far as I know there isn't really a single genuine trans person on the show, they're all just either confused and treated as jokes like mr garrison or just lying and treated as jokes where you laugh at how vulgar and male they're being despite identifying as female like Heather in the s23 episode. I don't think they've ever once grappled with trans people on a level beyond making low-reaching jokes about how funny it is to see trans people not matching their gender


Kyle and Stan are literally the only two entities resembling genuine people on the show.

I mean look at Token and the way they treat his race, he's taken seriously and they genuinely grapple with stereotypes about being black and the struggles black people face in many of his storylines. More recently craig and tweak are being treated as a gay couple beyond just laughing about gay people and they do also occasionally get into legitimate struggles of gay people. For trans people they just use it for cheap jokes and haven't actually looked into trans people's perspectives like they have for other minority groups. The closest they went was the episode where people decided they were ok with trans people using whichever bathroom, but there weren't even any trans characters in that episode, just people pretending. Maybe bring in somebody who's actually trans and not just lying or trying it out a gender surgery for the hell of it?

I guess they have caitlyn jenner but she's not a fleshed out character
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Guide
11/15/19 7:07:16 PM
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Just to let you know, I only read the last line cause you don't fucking punctuate.

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LittleBonTron2
11/15/19 7:08:00 PM
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If you're upset by this ep then you don't understand it.

Don't be ignorant
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joe40001
11/15/19 7:10:02 PM
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tvclub is notorious for having people who hate south park review south park.
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Wetterdew
11/15/19 7:11:08 PM
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Joenage posted...
Its almost as if its a comedy show or something

Looney Tunes is a comedy show.

South park is more than that. When you decide to fill your comedy show with controversial topics and make regular political and social statements, your show becomes receptive to critiques and analysis from political and social perspectives. None of this is about whether I agree with them about trans athletes, but if they're gonna spend decades using trans people for cheap laughs then why not eventually also explore their real problems with a genuine trans character.

Guide posted...
Just to let you know, I didn't read your post

??
I do not care. also I did punctuate but whatever.
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ThanksUglyGod
11/15/19 7:11:49 PM
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What was this episode even trying to say? I mean, I get the B plot, but the main one was a mess.
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Airhammy
11/15/19 7:12:02 PM
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Watched it an hour ago. Loved it, and still laughing.

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Gobstoppers12
11/15/19 7:14:33 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
When you decide to fill your comedy show with controversial topics and make regular political and social statements, your show becomes receptive to critiques and analysis from political and social perspectives

And, as it turns out, the creators of said show are more than welcome to totally ignore any and all critiques and analysis coming from that (or any) angle.
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Ivynn
11/15/19 7:14:37 PM
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Remember back in middle/high school and everybody got their political opinions from South Park
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Wetterdew
11/15/19 7:15:30 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Wetterdew posted...
When you decide to fill your comedy show with controversial topics and make regular political and social statements, your show becomes receptive to critiques and analysis from political and social perspectives

And, as it turns out, the creators of said show are more than welcome to totally ignore any and all critiques and analysis coming from that (or any) angle.

I mean obviously people can ignore criticism if they want
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ViewtifulGrave
11/15/19 7:16:42 PM
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Watching Macho Man as Heather casually win every event made my day.
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Esrac
11/15/19 7:19:57 PM
#44:


boxington posted...
the episode was pretty lame, IMO, and kinda late to be topical.

the only good thing about modern South Park is PC Principal. dude's just way too absurdly hilarious.


Would Trans-Awareness Week not be a good time to be topical?
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BilalPowell
11/15/19 7:24:54 PM
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Great episode. Need more like that. Less about marijuana.
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thanosibe
11/15/19 7:27:07 PM
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Are people still letting South Park rile them up? Do they not know thats the sole reason for the shows existence for this long?

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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/15/19 7:29:14 PM
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South Park has never been politically correct so that doesn't surprise me. It's like getting offended by an episode of ATHF
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Bankaid
11/15/19 7:31:56 PM
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Funniest episode I've seen in ages.
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joe40001
11/15/19 7:33:29 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEgFtf_LZHU
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Wetterdew
11/15/19 7:34:26 PM
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thanosibe posted...
Are people still letting South Park rile them up? Do they not know thats the sole reason for the shows existence for this long?

I can't speak for other people, but I wasn't bothered by the episode this week and I agree with them that trans athletes are just too strong to compete in women's events (not a very controversial opinion really). Even so it's still fair to analyze and criticize the show. Criticism doesn't mean you're riled up or upset. It doesn't mean you hate something because you criticize it. The only thing that upsets me about south park atm is how stale randy's manchild/marijuana stuff got
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