Current Events > Cinderace is the first starter that is legit OU without even the HA

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DarkRoast
11/19/19 5:42:37 PM
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116 attack
119 speed

Pyro Ball 120 base damage physical fire move that can burn too

Legit amazing. Gonna be Uber when it gets Libero (Protean basically)


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GATTJT
11/19/19 5:47:34 PM
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Those stats are pretty underwhelming for OU, although I guess with the purge of over half the pokedex i guess it might get in.

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GeneralKenobi85
11/19/19 5:51:40 PM
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What about Infernape? Wasn't Infernape OU for both Gen 4 and 5, and it had no hidden ability until Gen 5 when hidden abilities were introduced.

Swampert as well.
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MC_BatCommander
11/19/19 5:54:03 PM
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Infernape was pretty dominant in gen 4

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Nightmare_Luna
11/19/19 5:59:05 PM
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it's not even that good

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Gheb
11/19/19 6:16:21 PM
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Shame it looks like a Sonic reject.
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TheDreadedWave
11/19/19 6:18:19 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
Gonna be Uber when it gets Libero (Protean basically)
It's possibly the most OP ability in Pokemon, it's weird to me that only the fire starter got a unique hidden ability

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DeadBankerDream
11/19/19 6:20:23 PM
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How was Swampert not OU in its initial gen?
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DarkRoast
11/19/19 6:51:32 PM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
It's possibly the most OP ability in Pokemon, it's weird to me that only the fire starter got a unique hidden ability


WonderGuard but to be fair it's limited to a single pokemon with 1 HP

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GeneralKenobi85
11/19/19 7:07:40 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
How was Swampert not OU in its initial gen?

It was though. At least that's what Smogon told me when I looked it up before.
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DeadBankerDream
11/19/19 7:08:52 PM
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I was asking TC how according to his logic, not stating disbelief at reality.

Also, Cinderace looks like complete ass, so I hate it.
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