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Lorenzo_2003
01/21/20 4:05:37 PM
#252:


Jetblackmoon posted...
I wish you the best, man. I'm going through some similar stuff and I know it isn't easy. Hang in there.

This thread has reminded me that there are a lot of people going through some hardships. I really am sorry about that. On the other hand, this is a new year and could be the beginning of bigger and better things for all of us.

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J03can
01/21/20 4:15:33 PM
#253:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
This thread has reminded me that there are a lot of people going through some hardships. I really am sorry about that. On the other hand, this is a new year and could be the beginning of bigger and better things for all of us.
It will be but it is on us to learn from these setbacks and grow from it. Gotta love yourself before you can love someone else. Cant fall in a pity party pit.

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J03can
01/21/20 11:21:31 PM
#254:


Went to training tonight and of course felt better afterwards...
I should really be going to training more often

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inloveanddeath0
01/21/20 11:23:30 PM
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J03can
01/21/20 11:24:50 PM
#256:


Thanks! Things are OK. Getting better every day

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inloveanddeath0
01/21/20 11:40:23 PM
#257:


I'd like to say the same but just suffered another set back but I'll manage

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J03can
01/22/20 7:54:48 AM
#258:


Hang in there pal. Theres definitely ups and downs - recongnize that and try to be positive

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J03can
01/22/20 9:59:46 PM
#259:


Visited my therapist today then met with the lawyer that i am going to hire. I feel pretty good about things aside from the fact that i am definitely getting sick - it started coming on this afternoon, sore throat started and has been getting worse. Better this week than next i suppose.

10 days till the cruise.

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Lorenzo_2003
01/23/20 12:00:05 AM
#260:


Maybe talk to your lawyer about what the possibility is of you keeping the house. Is that even something you want, or do you just want a clean (i.e. even) break from any joint assets? I mean I would try to keep the house if you have no plans to move, but sometimes moving away does help heal the emotional wounds.


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powerman1426
01/23/20 1:45:11 AM
#261:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Maybe talk to your lawyer about what the possibility is of you keeping the house. Is that even something you want, or do you just want a clean (i.e. even) break from any joint assets? I mean I would try to keep the house if you have no plans to move, but sometimes moving away does help heal the emotional wounds.
Not a bad question. It's also a huge issue, this is why a lawyer is needed, even if you don't want to fight.

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J03can
01/23/20 8:55:26 AM
#262:


It could be a possiblity but i dont want it. Too many memories. Also, we bought at a great time in a great neighborhood - we would be listing $200,000 more than we paid, and it will most likely go to a bidding war. So i could potentially come out of this with a lot of money that i can put towards a down payment on a new house when i figure out what i want.

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J03can
01/23/20 10:32:04 PM
#263:


Ugh, ripped the bandaid off again this evening my dudes. I got my lawyer so we (my wife and i) met at our house to talk about next steps.
After we talked about that i started taking and asking her stuff and we talked but fuck, we dont hate each other. Theres still love there. It feels like we are throwing this away... but at the same time i know we shouldnt get back together... i dont even want to... both of us will be fine... just mixed up is all. Ill be ok

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Lorenzo_2003
01/23/20 10:57:04 PM
#264:


Yeah, sometimes I dont know which is worse- the breakup where my ex was really mean and confusing about it, or the time I had an ex who really wasnt bad but it was obvious we werent meant for each other and it just seemed tragic somehow.

Hang in there, bro. Glad to see youre trying real hard to be level headed and not too bitter.

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powerman1426
01/23/20 11:00:05 PM
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You may still love each other, there's a lot of time and memories. But that doesn't necessarily mean together will work anymore unfortunately. People can be divorced and still care about the other, not all are acrimonious hate fests.

As far as your house, you may not want it anymore, but that's a lot of money to just walk out on. The best would be listing it and splitting the proceeds, or her buying you out in my opinion.

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inloveanddeath0
01/23/20 11:00:58 PM
#266:


Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Yeah, sometimes I dont know which is worse- the breakup where my ex was really mean and confusing about it, or the time I had an ex who really wasnt bad but it was obvious we werent meant for each other and it just seemed tragic somehow.

Hang in there, bro. Glad to see youre trying real hard to be level headed and not too bitter.
I had to deal with the latter type of ex

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J03can
01/23/20 11:09:46 PM
#267:


powerman1426 posted...
You may still love each other, there's a lot of time and memories. But that doesn't necessarily mean together will work anymore unfortunately. People can be divorced and still care about the other, not all are acrimonious hate fests.

As far as your house, you may not want it anymore, but that's a lot of money to just walk out on. The best would be listing it and splitting the proceeds, or her buying you out in my opinion.
Oh of course. We are planning on selling and splitting it down the middle. We are both seeing lawyers who are a part of this "best 4 all" plan. We are basically putting together an agreement drafted by our lawyers and committing to not litigate. Aside from the horrible heartbreak, we will both come out of this pretty good.

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powerman1426
01/23/20 11:24:53 PM
#268:


J03can posted...
Oh of course. We are planning on selling and splitting it down the middle. We are both seeing lawyers who are a part of this "best 4 all" plan. We are basically putting together an agreement drafted by our lawyers and committing to not litigate. Aside from the horrible heartbreak, we will both come out of this pretty good.
I'm sorry for the situation, but it seems you're both doing things the right way. It's the best way for this to play out, make the break without fights, and move forward separately without sour feelings

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J03can
01/24/20 11:00:12 AM
#269:


I think we'll be able to do that. I want to be friendly going forward, she's a really great person.
Woke up really sick today so im working from home and just laying around.

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powerman1426
01/24/20 8:48:48 PM
#270:


Get well soon, keep doing you. You're gonna be ok, as long as you both continue to respect each other, this will pass as painlessly as possible. It's a loss, and a lot to deal with, but as long as you both continue to respect each other you'll come out ok.

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Sariana21
01/24/20 10:01:39 PM
#271:


I agree with powerman.

Feel better soon!

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J03can
01/24/20 10:15:25 PM
#272:


Thanks guys. Ill be in miami a week from today

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masticatingman
01/24/20 10:21:51 PM
#273:


My brother got divorced after just a couple years of marriage because his wife wanted him to change. He was literally the exact same when they married. If you had just been married for a year and a few months...gonna take a wild guess that she had some idealized version of what she wanted you to be post marriage and its not your fault.


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J03can
01/24/20 10:25:50 PM
#274:


Not quite. We were togethef for 12 years. Something similar happend 4 years or so ago. I became distant and short tempered and just a bad husband. We werent spending time together... when she left i realized what i had done (again). I was holding off on doing stuff with her till "later" whenever that was gonna be.
She could have been more up front with me in how serious it was affecting her, but i could have also been more engaged with her... its a whole thing, im in therapy to work on my issues and will be better next time. With my wife, i was too shitty for too long and shes not willing to give me another chance.

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KINDERFELD
01/24/20 10:28:40 PM
#275:


That's why I think marriage is a curse.

Your relationship is fine till you tie the knot and put it on paper.

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J03can
01/24/20 10:29:43 PM
#276:


KINDERFELD posted...
That's why I think marriage is a curse.

Your relationship is fine till you tie the knot and put it on paper.
Could be man... i dont know what to say... it sucks but im looking forward to the future - i havent been single in quite a while so im excited to see where it goes

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KINDERFELD
01/24/20 10:33:45 PM
#277:


J03can posted...
Could be man... i dont know what to say... it sucks but im looking forward to the future - i havent been single in quite a while so im excited to see where it goes

My husband and I have been together for 15 years and married for 5 years.
We had a perfect relationship till we got married.

Now my husband has turned into an alcoholic who literally gets plastered every night.
We don't argue a lot but we certainly don't spend much time doing things together anymore.

I'm a grad student who also works all the time so that might be mainly why but I've noticed that because I'm gone 7 days a week, he sits at home alone and dinks himself silly.

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J03can
01/24/20 10:34:38 PM
#278:


KINDERFELD posted...
My husband and I have been together for 15 years and married for 5 years.
We had a perfect relationship till we got married.

Now my husband has turned into an alcoholic who literally gets plastered every night.
We don't argue a lot but we certainly don't spend much time doing things together anymore.

I'm a grad student who also works all the time so that might be mainly why but I've noticed that because I'm gone 7 days a week, he sits at home alone and dinks himself silly.
That really sucks, sorry to hear that... what are you going to do?

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KINDERFELD
01/24/20 10:42:31 PM
#279:


J03can posted...
That really sucks, sorry to hear that... what are you going to do?

I asked him to holdout for me. I'll be finished with school this year and have more time to dedicate to him.

I just want him to slow down with the drinking. I really miss doing things with him. He's my best friend.

Talking about it now, I realize how much I am a cause for his drinking. He's home alone every night missing me, I get home from work and school and I'm dead tired, hang on the couch with him for about an hour before going to write papers or go to bed.

I feel like we just live together and pay bills together.

I really want to be done with school already so I can spend more time with him.


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J03can
01/24/20 11:02:02 PM
#280:


You cant blame it all on yourself. He could go out with friends or have a hobby or something. Drinking is a horrible hobby

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KINDERFELD
01/24/20 11:46:53 PM
#281:


I agree.

Funny that you mentioned friends for him to hangout with.
We spoke specifically about that this week and tomorrow he's off and going to go hang with some coworkers.


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powerman1426
01/25/20 3:30:39 AM
#282:


This is a twist to the topic. I don't mean that in a bad way, more seeing an issue, and getting in front of it. Or recognizing one and using here as a sounding board

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J03can
01/25/20 9:58:33 AM
#283:


KINDERFELD posted...
I agree.

Funny that you mentioned friends for him to hangout with.
We spoke specifically about that this week and tomorrow he's off and going to go hang with some coworkers.
Thats good news. Hopefully that sticks.
Try to spend time together whenever you can even though its hard now. You want to make sure the relationship is still there when youre done school

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KINDERFELD
01/25/20 11:03:14 AM
#284:


J03can posted...
Thats good news. Hopefully that sticks.
Try to spend time together whenever you can even though its hard now. You want to make sure the relationship is still there when youre done school

That's what I'm most fearful of.
That he would get bored of waiting and start seeing someone while I'm at work or school.

Sad thing is you can't put it past anyone to do something like that given enough motivation and reason.

So not only am I overworked from school and my job, I'm also stressed out that my absence may give him reason to cheat.

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Sariana21
01/25/20 11:37:10 AM
#285:


KINDERFELD posted...
I asked him to holdout for me. I'll be finished with school this year and have more time to dedicate to him.

I just want him to slow down with the drinking. I really miss doing things with him. He's my best friend.

Talking about it now, I realize how much I am a cause for his drinking. He's home alone every night missing me, I get home from work and school and I'm dead tired, hang on the couch with him for about an hour before going to write papers or go to bed.

I feel like we just live together and pay bills together.

I really want to be done with school already so I can spend more time with him.
Whoa, whoa, no! No one is responsible for someone elses alcoholism. Your post has all kinds of red flags. Are you safe? Please do not let anyone convince you that it is your fault he makes bad choices! If this relationship is toxic, you need to leave. If not, then you need to address your own sense of misplaced guilt.
@KINDERFELD

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KINDERFELD
01/25/20 1:32:39 PM
#286:


Sariana21 posted...
Whoa, whoa, no! No one is responsible for someone elses alcoholism. Your post has all kinds of red flags. Are you safe? Please do not let anyone convince you that it is your fault he makes bad choices! If this relationship is toxic, you need to leave. If not, then you need to address your own sense of misplaced guilt.
@KINDERFELD

I don't think I'm to blame for my husband's drinking but I do understand that because I'm not there with him, he gets bored and sits on the couch drinking.

I feel bad that I cannot spend more time with him when I really want to.

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J03can
01/25/20 2:33:08 PM
#287:


KINDERFELD posted...
I don't think I'm to blame for my husband's drinking but I do understand that because I'm not there with him, he gets bored and sits on the couch drinking.

I feel bad that I cannot spend more time with him when I really want to.
But really he shouldnt need you around to not drink. That shouldnt hinge on you at all.

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KINDERFELD
01/25/20 2:35:26 PM
#288:


J03can posted...
But really he shouldnt need you around to not drink. That shouldnt hinge on you at all.

That's in a perfect world.
We don't live in a perfect world though and people get lonely and don't always resort to wise alternatives.

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J03can
01/25/20 2:39:30 PM
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I guess. Just make sure you take care of yourself.

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KINDERFELD
01/25/20 2:53:34 PM
#290:


J03can posted...
I guess. Just make sure you take care of yourself.

I'm trying my best but if things don't work out, I'd much rather be single than to remain in an unhappy relationship.

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J03can
01/25/20 3:00:05 PM
#291:


Yes! 100%!
Not saying just do it, but weigh your options honestly, do whats best for you

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J03can
01/26/20 6:38:52 PM
#292:


I had a nice weekend, spent the night at my bud's house on Saturday - just sat around, watched the NHL all star game and had some laughs.
I bought some shoes today in anticipation of the cruise. 5 days till the flight and 6 days till im on board.
Not fully expecting that ill hook up with someone but i bought some domes just in case.

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Mistere Man
01/26/20 6:51:04 PM
#293:


J03can posted...
I had a nice weekend, spent the night at my bud's house on Saturday - just sat around, watched the NHL all star game and had some laughs.
I bought some shoes today in anticipation of the cruise. 5 days till the flight and 6 days till im on board.
Not fully expecting that ill hook up with someone but i bought some domes just in case.
Only six days so where is my ticket? You were taking me with you right?

Just kidding of course have have a great trip or voyage which ever is correct.

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J03can
01/26/20 6:57:42 PM
#294:


Mistere Man posted...
Only six days so where is my ticket? You were taking me with you right?

Just kidding of course have have a great trip or voyage which ever is correct.
Haha sorry bud.
Thanks, i will accept both as correct. Its going to be my eat pray love trip haha. Except its on one of the most corporate vacations there is!

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Mistere Man
01/26/20 7:01:44 PM
#295:


Well corporate or not do your best to live it up, and have some fun.

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J03can
01/26/20 7:07:42 PM
#296:


Mistere Man posted...
Well corporate or not do your best to live it up, and have some fun.
I will, i guarantee that

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Mistere Man
01/26/20 7:09:08 PM
#297:


J03can posted...
I will, i guarantee that
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iN7_O-2Kixw

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J03can
01/27/20 9:12:23 PM
#298:


4 days till flight.
I retained my lawyer today, $2500 from my line of credit....

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Mistere Man
01/27/20 9:15:08 PM
#299:


J03can posted...
4 days till flight.
I retained my lawyer today, $2500 from my line of credit....
Yikes! I really hate lawyers sometimes.

Who am I kidding? Most all times.

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J03can
01/27/20 9:47:53 PM
#300:


Well it is what it is. Shes nice i guess.

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Mistere Man
01/27/20 10:02:03 PM
#301:


J03can posted...
Well it is what it is. Shes nice i guess.
A necessary evil sometimes. I just remember one calling to tell me one thing it took maybe 5 seconds, but I got a $500 bill for the call as that was their minimum rate for anything.

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