Current Events > Playing Mario Sunshine for the first time. It's weird >_>

(+) Yeah! (+)

I just got Pinna Park and did some Shines there. My thoughts so far:

Pros:
-Great graphics! The colors really pop
-Fludd is a lot of fun to use
-It's pretty cool that you can see a bunch of worlds in the backgrounds of each other. It makes it feel like the entire place is connected instead of just random locales
-The Fludd-less levels are pretty fun to go through
-I like the scenarios that Sunshine gives you instead of having to explore a level to hunt for an objective like in 64

Cons:
-All the levels feel samey >_> It's very beach-oriented with some slight differences and set pieces in each level
-Mario doesn't feel as fluid as he did in 64. No long jump, no backflip, etc. really sucks
-Only 7 levels feels pretty short, especially if they feel the samey
-I heard there's some REALLY dumb shines like the Mantra Ray one and the chuckster one.
-Blue coins are bad. idk why they thought these were a good idea. I just took 10 minutes to do something in Isle Delfino and got 1 blue coin for it. Searching the levels for all of them sounds really tedious
-I heard the 100% reward is just a postcard lawl
-Apparently you HAVE to get at least 7 shines in each level to unlock the final area instead of just letting you collect a certain number from whereever like in all the other games. That's dumb.

Overall I am having fun, but I can tell that this is definitely the weakest 3D Mario. I still haven't gotten Yoshi yet either.
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Click the FLUDD trigger button and jump for a backflip that shotguns your water. Also you can do the water shotgun a bunch of times in the air by clicking trigger and A.

Yeah long jump is always nice to have, but you technically don't need it in Sunshine thanks to both Fludd and the Spin Jump.

Also, I don't think the levels are samey. Yeah there are beaches on three of them, but for two of those levels the beach is not the main focus. Plus all of them are aesthetically pleasing.

Oh and technically you don't have to get 7 shines in each area before you unlock the final area. It was intended to be done that way, and chances are most players did do it that way, but the actual trigger is just doing the Shadow Mario chase in each level.

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Wow I just got Yoshi and this manta ray shine is horrible lol
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the manta ray is one of my favorites, it annoyed me at first but it actually gets kinda intense

the hotel is easily my favorite area in the game

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SMS def has problems but it's still a great game, and FLUDD was too good of a gameplay mechanic to only have one game

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When you have to use an external checklist to keep track of something, that's a pretty big design flaw. Fucking blue coins.

Not a bad game though, better than SM3DL, but beyond that it's my least favorite 3D Mario.
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voldothegr8 posted...

When you have to use an external checklist to keep track of something, that's a pretty big design flaw.

so... pretty much every collect-a-thon that ever existed then

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Great game. First one I ever bought with my own money

I actually really liked how the 7th shine in each level is Shadow Mario showing up to mess up the place after you cleaned it up. The 8th shine is always this low-stakes victory lap to show that theres progression between each mission in the area.

Fun game, but if it wasn't a Mario game from Nintendo and instead was just a random cute animal platformer from another company it would be a completely forgotten 7/10 effort from that era.

HylianFox posted...

so... pretty much every collect-a-thon that ever existed then

No most tell you what you have/whatever in what area, and were doing it way before SMS.
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voldothegr8 posted...

No most tell you what you have/whatever in what area, and were doing it way before SMS.

not really, at best you'll be told how many of a certain thing you collected in an area, not which exact ones (like SMS does)

it's only recently that games have been keeping those sorts of checklists

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I like blue coins

they're entirely optional (you don't need any to beat the game, and they do absolutely nothing in terms of helping beat the game) but it's fun trying to look around for them or think about clever spots where a dev might have hidden one or etc

I think my biggest negative point with the game is this
NeonOctopus posted...

-Apparently you HAVE to get at least 7 shines in each level to unlock the final area instead of just letting you collect a certain number from whereever like in all the other games. That's dumb.

because it makes the replay value kinda bad. or even just the play value if you happen to learn about this in advance

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it's the best 3d mario

well whatever, maybe I'm not the best person to comment on the value in finding all the blue coins since I got all 900 Korok seeds in BotW twice
>_>

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Whyyyy
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NeonOctopus posted...

-I heard there's some REALLY dumb shines like the Mantra Ray one and the chuckster one.

Oh, if only those were the worst ones

*coughsinpachinko*

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People dont like the Manta Ray boss? That was my favorite mission in the game. I would replay it a bunch.

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I remember hating blue coins and any Shine that required Yoshi.
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Yoshi is....okay. He just seems lile a double jump with less fludd options >_> Mario feels better alone lol
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DeathVelvien posted...

Oh, if only those were the worst ones

*coughsinpachinko*

The pachinko is probably the worst thing to have ever appeared in a Mario game.

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Man, it kinda sucks to know that only the sprites from the first 7 are the ones that matter. Any extra ones I collect are useless for unlocking the last area. This is a really dumb design choice and just makes me want to beeline the stages instead of exploring and pick and choosing sprites I actually want to do.

There's no point in getting 100 coins in a level. There's no point in getting sprites in the overworld. There's no point in getting any of the blue coins. None of them matter for getting the final area unlocked >_>
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NeonOctopus posted...

Man, it kinda sucks to know that only the sprites from the first 7 are the ones that matter. Any extra ones I collect are useless for unlocking the last area. This is a really dumb design choice and just makes me want to beeline the stages instead of exploring and pick and choosing sprites I actually want to do.

There's no point in getting 100 coins in a level. There's no point in getting sprites in the overworld. There's no point in getting any of the blue coins. None of them matter for getting the final area unlocked >_>

Who cares? I understand not going for 100% in Sunshine, but it's still worth getting all the non-blue coin shines.

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Nah, it's a mental thing. It's not you babe, it's me.
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Is there anyway I could play this game again? Been the one game I've always wanted to play again now that I'm older and better at platformers.

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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

The pachinko is probably the worst thing to have ever appeared in a Mario game.

Absolutely. If you can think of something else, you're probably wrong.

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Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...

any Shine that required Yoshi.

if Yoshi didn't fucking dissolve in the slightest contact with water...

was it that hard to program the ability for Yoshi to swim?

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dave_is_slick posted...

Is there anyway I could play this game again? Been the one game I've always wanted to play again now that I'm older and better at platformers.

idk but on a completely unrelated note, I got this sick new laptop that runs games pretty well.

Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I just wanted to say that >____>
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NeonOctopus posted...

idk but on a completely unrelated note, I got this sick new laptop that runs games pretty well.

Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I just wanted to say that >____>

Well that's pretty cool! Also unrelated, I should look around for some games to put on mine.

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No prob
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