Board 8 > Anagram Aces Ace Attorney: A Phoenix Wright Playthrough Topic (spoilers)

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Im not sure its stated in the games, but it definitely has been in interviews with the translators

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Yeah, I don't think the games ever say LA specifically (or even California in general). It's just a location on the western time zone.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Also, the game does explain why Phoenix hasn't visited before now, but I don't know if you've gotten to that point yet.

They actually did, but whatever.

SeabassDebeste posted...

i also don't think a matriarchal village that focuses on spirit channeling is particularly japanese

It may not be specifically Japanese, but it's definitely not Western. Not that it matters, since Morgan Fey is in a robe with Japanese letters all over it and has that big black hair style classical Japanese women had.

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Yeah, I think the only thing that actually says where the game takes place is Larry's Thinker clock being off by the time zone difference between the west coast and France.
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- Morgan is quite cruel to the only other girl whose hair rivals her own Thats a lie. Lotta is #2, but shes still not in Morgans league.
- This is the second time Maya channeling a female ghost has caused her boobs to grow and her cleavage to show. Im just saying.
- Lotta took two pictures at the time of the murder. Rather than tell Gumshoe that, she just leaves. I mean, come on, game, you and I both know Im going to need to show them during the trial.
- Um, so, like, a murder is that thing where, like, one person kills another, right? I cant even make fun of this, Ive known girls who would say this.
- Why is Pearly the only Fey whose name doesnt start with an M?
- Man, the cops were really nice to wash off Mayas blood-soaked spirit medium outfit and give it back to her in the detention center instead of taking it for evidence.
- Come to think of it, the first time I met her It all started here, in this detention center. No, it didnt! It started in Mias office! What is wrong with you, Phoenix?
- Okay, so. Morgan Fey did it. She wants Pearl to inherit the village or whatever. She weakened the lock so Phoenix could smash it. I dont think she did it herself, she mightve had Ini Miney actually do the killing. Whoever the killer is hid behind the folding screen.
- Showing Ini Miney her own face: This face I think Ive seen it before What?! Youre joking, right? Of course, silly. Oh, thank goodness
- Ill take annoying little kid over child prodigy who acts like an adult, which is what I was expecting.
- Became a prosecutor at 13, huh?
- Dun dun dun, the nurse is Ini Mineys sister.
- So, uh Did talking to people really need a supernatural element? Couldnt I just have shown Ini Miney the newspaper clipping to begin with? Such a weird thing to add. Phoenix already just talks to people, why make it magical?
- Mia has psych-locks, which means she knows something about the murderer, which means its Morgan Fey for sure.

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Anagram posted...

- Come to think of it, the first time I met her It all started here, in this detention center. No, it didnt! It started in Mias office! What is wrong with you, Phoenix?

Well, their first real conversation was in the detention center, so he might be referring to that.

Also, Pearl is great.

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- Um, so, like, a murder is that thing where, like, one person kills another, right? I cant even make fun of this, Ive known girls who would say this.

your sister?

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NFUN posted...

your sister?

My sister's not THAT far gone, but some of her friends are.

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I love Ini Miney, she's such a doofus.

But her outfit is wack though.

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I hated Ini Miney the first time I played 2-2.

I've sort of come around on her since, although I wouldn't say I love her or anything.

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Is there a Phoenix Wright anime?

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Is there a Phoenix Wright anime?

Yep, and it covers the first three games (with a few anime-exclusive episodes, to boot!). The first season covers the first two games, and the second season covers the third game (and has a lot of anime-exclusive content to pad the run time). It's kind of hit or miss, but I enjoyed it. It did make some minor improvements here and there, but they obviously have to cut a lot of content.

actually now that I think about it 2-2 might have been the best adaptation the anime did

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2-2 was well done in the anime. Most of the cases from the third game were also done well.
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Yeah, the second season only covering the third game gave the anime a little room to breathe and adapt them a little more fully. Most of those cases get handled pretty well.

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Interesting, I didn't know the franchise got an anime.

I've heard Phoenix's name mentioned often as a potential Smash character. I wonder what his chances are.

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I've already used up all of my Smash luck getting in DQ Hero, so low!

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At this point, I'd be stunned if Phoenix got into Smash. The most recent game was released in 2016 and there isn't a new game on the horizon. Plus, the series is still pretty niche.

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Not to mention that Phoenix was already in MvC3. I think that kind of steals most Capcom characters' thunder unless they're one of the really big deals, like Ryu. It's not like we haven't seen Phoenix in a big crossover fighting game so the novelty isn't what it would be.

Yeah, I think that basically kills his chances, too. He's not really popular enough to warrant a second crossover appearance. It'd be nice if they could include him as an Assist Trophy or a sticker or something though.

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- So, uh Did talking to people really need a supernatural element? Couldnt I just have shown Ini Miney the newspaper clipping to begin with? Such a weird thing to add. Phoenix already just talks to people, why make it magical?

It gives investigations more direction and greatly reduces the amount of "now go to the other side of the map so Oldbag can randomly appear and advance the plot".

I haven't seen Season 2 of the anime yet.

Pearl is a top 5 AA character for me. She's just so lovable and only gets better as the trilogy goes on.

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Season 2 is great!

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ZeldaTPLink posted...

It gives investigations more direction and greatly reduces the amount of "now go to the other side of the map so Oldbag can randomly appear and advance the plot".

Well, that is nice.

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- They keep calling the new von Karma a successor. Let me guess, this is that Japanese thing where they dont have gendered third person pronouns, so they introduce a character by implying a boy only to reveal its a girl, and it has to be awkwardly worked around when translating it into English, right? I already know he has a daughter (actually, he mentioned a granddaughter last game), but I would have known about this anyway from the awkward dialogue.
- Apparently Pearl ran two hours to get here. Who says nobody walks in LA?
- Phoenix is like Edgeworth left and will never return. Because 1-5 was shoehorned in after the first game to explain this after the fact, though, Im not going to be specific in any way.
- Franziskas like you must be shocked because Im a girl even though she had no way to know how everyone kept avoiding her gender and shes like famous, isnt she? If anything, she should assume Phoenix already knows all about her.
- Foolish fool who foolish dreams of foolish dreams
- Phoenix Wright doesnt know about gunpowder burns at pointblank? Some lawyer.
- I love how Phoenix raises an objection about Maya being too small to kill the doctor with a knife, then von Karma objects because of the channeling technique, and no one understands except them but Phoenix drops it.
- There is not a single trace of gunpowder burn on this costume! Phoenix, you found this hole three minutes ago, no one here is in forensics, and the judge commented that the sleeve smells like gunpowder, I dont know if you can make this declaration.
- I like Franziskas grabbing her arm in the same place her father did, I like her completely absurd whip, and I like her curtsying. But Edgeworths shadowy face when hes surprised is definitely better than her grabbing her chest and turning away. For prosecutors so far, Im learning toward von Karma > Edgeworth > Franziska > Payne. I dont know if Payne even really counts, though.

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Accurate prosecutor rankings so far.

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- What in tarnation?! Hey judge! This is violence against my fair self! Thats fine.
- Ahhhh jesus christ I was not prepared for Pearl to channel Mia. I guess I just sort of assumed that Maya wasnt changing THAT much and it was mostly just for the audiences benefit, but I guess it can just straight-up make you grow three feet.
- I actually thought about for a while on whether or not to protest that the picture of Maya channeling the nurse isnt really Maya, but I dropped it.
- I mean, I accept that channeling spirits exists in this world, and I accept that the judge is swayed even by an illegal picture, Im fine with that. Its just that if you accept that, then you cant possibly hold Maya accountable for what happens when shes being possessed.
- I absolutely love Franziska whipping everyone in range, including Lotta for no reason.
- So the other woman is obviously Ini Miney, whod have the same basic face as her sister. Morgan Fey masterminded it, but she did the actual work. Morgan Fey replaced Ini Miney with an unconscious Maya or whatever while Phoenix and Lotta were calling the cops.

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I think Franziska's really good in 2-2 because she starts off so stoic and composed like her father, and as soon as Phoenix pokes a hole in her case, she goes berserk and starts lashing out in every direction, quite literally.

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The fact the entire cast treats spirit channeling and other spiriual stuff as real and don't waste time discussing its validity is a great thing about this series. It lets cases go to directions you don't see in most mystery stories.

But yeah, this makes the already weak legal logic of the series even weaker. Better not to think much about it, imo.

Yeah the decision to have a little girl channel Mia was uhh... not great

I like her a little more nowadays, but the foolishly foolish fool stuff did not give me a positive first impression of Franziska

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I like her a little more nowadays, but the foolishly foolish fool stuff did not give me a positive first impression of Franziska

I assume it makes more sense in Japanese.

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Anagram posted...

I assume it makes more sense in Japanese.

IIRC, I've heard the Japanese version is basically "baka baka baka baka baka"

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Lol back in the first game when you first reacted to Maya channeling Mia, I almost said "Just wait until later games," but decided to let you see for yourself.

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- Shes the opposite of a lawyer a prosecutor. Wow, Phoenix, wow.
- He clutched onto his foolish pride too closely, and died for it. I can imagine this setting up a cool reveal later originally, but having played 1-5, this is just so dumb.
- Ini just asked whose accident, which means she must know something about another persons accident Um, Phoenix, that would be true for anyone else, but this girl
- Showing Maya a picture of Mimi Miney results in Phoenix saying I guess I cant expect her to know anything about this person, okay.
- Wait, wait, wait. This urn is the villages greatest treasure or whatever, so they put it unsecured on a pillar that children can play near, and not inside of a glass case or something?
- I mean, look. I dont know when I learned how to spell Ami, but I was certainly under eight.
- Show Pearl Ami Fey, get told she doesnt know who this is because she doesnt leave the village. Okay. Shut up, game.
- I notice the fake doctor does like a groping motion with his hand if you show him some female portraits.
- You know, back when everything was in the city, I accepted just going between locations in a single day. But weve been told that this village is two hours out of LA. I went to it, then back to Maya, then back to the city, then back to the village
- Is it bad that I feel worse for Ini about being creeped on so badly that she remembers the guy six months later than for some of the murder victims in the series so far?

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hombad46 posted...

IIRC, I've heard the Japanese version is basically "baka baka baka baka baka"

That sounds funnier.

Underleveled posted...

Lol back in the first game when you first reacted to Maya channeling Mia, I almost said "Just wait until later games," but decided to let you see for yourself.

Yeah, having the little kid channel Mia might've been a miscalculation.

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there's literally official art of Pearls-Mia having to cup her hands over her breasts because the outfit couldn't contain them

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LeonhartFour posted...

there's literally official art of Pearls-Mia having to cup her hands over her breasts because the outfit couldn't contain them

Of course there is.

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Anagram posted...

- Shes the opposite of a lawyer a prosecutor. Wow, Phoenix, wow.

The series uses "lawyer" to mean "defense attorney"; I assume it's an awkward translation thing?

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Is it bad that I feel worse for Ini about being creeped on so badly that she remembers the guy six months later than for some of the murder victims in the series so far?

ugh.
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I mean Director Hotti is pretty unforgettable

hmm yes

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LeonhartFour posted...

At this point, I'd be stunned if Phoenix got into Smash. The most recent game was released in 2016

You sure about that? :)

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nobody counts the DGS games not even Japan

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I know only the first three games star Phoenix, and then there are more games about another guy, and a girl, and Edgeworth, right?

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LeonhartFour posted...

nobody counts the DGS games not even Japan

Thought you were talking about Smash for some reason. Don't know why... >_>

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I know only the first three games star Phoenix, and then there are more games about another guy, and a girl, and Edgeworth, right?

it gets complicated after the original trilogy

You have Apollo Justice, the two Edgeworth games, and then the two most recent AA games

then there's also a two-part spinoff that was only ever released in Japan starring Phoenix's ancestor

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- Im sorry, is no one going to comment on the little girl turning into a grown-ass woman? I know its normal for Phoenix and Maya, but surely not the others.
- Man, the back of Morgan Feys head is pretty huge. Thats some impressive hair.
- I enjoy Phoenix stealing Mias line and presenting it to the court as his own.
- I actually expected Ini Mineys eyes to open when she got upset, thus proving I am a master at predicting trivial nonsense in video games.
- Dammit, I did not expect the beret to momentarily have an angry ghost face.
- Your honor, please allow the defense to continue one more minute. Okay.
- I actually figured out this was Mimi Miney when she started talking about how awesome British cars are, just before the game reveals it. Im ashamed I didnt figure it out earlier.
- I mean, I expected an explanation for how Morgan Fey and Mimi Miney met and planned out this murder, but I guess not.
- I guess maybe Ill go into more detail about this when I do case rankings, but this was a pretty disappointing case. The only thing not obvious from the beginning is Ini Mineys real identity, and otherwise its the easiest case to solve ever as a player, but the characters are like I wonder who couldve done ittttttt right until the end.

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- Dammit, I did not expect the beret to momentarily have an angry ghost face.

It's her face pushing through it

Actually, wait, did they explain why the doctor brought a gun? I don't remember.

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- I actually figured out this was Mimi Miney when she started talking about how awesome British cars are, just before the game reveals it. Im ashamed I didnt figure it out earlier.

I figured it out when they started talking about Ini having major facial reconstruction surgery. They don't include that detail just for the heck of it.

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- I mean, I expected an explanation for how Morgan Fey and Mimi Miney met and planned out this murder, but I guess not.

The anime actually provides this, which is one reason I think it's a good adaptation.

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Actually, wait, did they explain why the doctor brought a gun? I don't remember.

Just in case the nurse got belligerent, which would have meant R.I.P. Maya but whatever.

I guess he didn't expect it to be quite so easy to get her to sign the confession or at least he prepared for the worst.

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