Board 8 > Anagram Aces Ace Attorney: A Phoenix Wright Playthrough Topic (spoilers)

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Does this version let you fast forward text that you haven't seen already?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure auto-skip is a default option in AAT now.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Does this version let you fast forward text that you haven't seen already?

If I push M2, it completes the text instead of making me watch it scroll, but I still have to click through everything.

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All the more reason to toss 2-1 in there now. ;)
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Lolo_Guru posted...

All the more reason to toss 2-1 in there now. ;)

Stahp

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The one advantage of this is that I can choose stupid dialogue options I didn't choose the first time.

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I would make multiple save files as you go just to be on the safe side.

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Leonhart4 posted...

I would make multiple save files as you go just to be on the safe side.

No, it wasn't just the save that was the problem, apparently everything was corrupted. Had it just been the save, the game would have let me restart from any episode.

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Day 1 of Episode 2 rebeated. What happens if I continue questioning April May or refuse Edgeworth's deal?

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Anagram posted...

Day 1 of Episode 2 rebeated. What happens if I continue questioning April May or refuse Edgeworth's deal?

In some cases, the game just forces you to continue (basically Phoenix in his mind will realize that doing something like refusing Edgeworth's deal is dumb and the only way to continue the trial is to accept it). I think if you continue questioning her, the game keeps asking you if you just want to stop questioning her because there's nothing else to learn, like with Oldbag at the end of 1-3 day 1.

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You can never like, "make a mistake" during investigation so don't worry about that. Most "wrong" options in court will let you know and don't automatically game over you with a couple of rare exceptions. Generally speaking though the game will railroad you in the right direction.

Episode 2 rebeated
- Tried taking Maya's Mother's picture instead of Redd White's, but no one recognized it, so I gave up and just took Redd White's. Was there someone I could speak to who would advance the plot with it?
- This time, I asked Redd White what he did after Mia ran away, and he briefly said he gave chase before denying it. Too bad I missed that the first time, that's a funny one.

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I don't think there's anyone you can show it to get a good reaction from since I don't think Maya is ever available while you can have it.

Anagram posted...

- This time, I asked Redd White what he did after Mia ran away, and he briefly said he gave chase before denying it. Too bad I missed that the first time, that's a funny one.

That's a great line, yeah.

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Episode 3 rebeated
- Now that I think about it, weren't there a bunch of "studio bigwigs" in Studio 2? No one even considers them as suspects.
- "I was hoping to come up with a question while I was pounding my desk. I didn't." "My sympathies, Mr. Wright." Dammit, I missed that one last time.
- I just realized how Dee Vasquez has her pipe in a sprite after breaking it, derp.
- Hm, why did Sal Manella help Dee Vasquez cover up a murder? It doesn't sound like he was charged with anything in any case.

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Anagram posted...

- Hm, why did Sal Manella help Dee Vasquez cover up a murder? It doesn't sound like he was charged with anything in any case.

he's obviously whipped as fuck

Anagram posted...

- Hm, why did Sal Manella help Dee Vasquez cover up a murder? It doesn't sound like he was charged with anything in any case.

In the words of Oldbag: "She treats him like dirt, but I think he likes it."

There's also this literally official art:

http://www.court-records.net/arts/artbook/artofgs-080.jpg

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Well that was fast. Nice. Think if it was me I wouldn't have even bothered (which would be a mistake because 1-4 is so good)

Any way of backing up your data so this doesn't happen again?

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Thankfully PW1 is fairly short, so if you know what you're doing, you can breeze through it. It would've been more difficult with any other game in the series.

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Anagram posted...

- I just realized how Dee Vasquez has her pipe in a sprite after breaking it, derp.

Yep, similar things will happen throughout the series.

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LeonhartFour posted...

In the words of Oldbag: "She treats him like dirt, but I think he likes it."

There's also this literally official art:

http://www.court-records.net/arts/artbook/artofgs-080.jpg

Paratroopa1 posted...

he's obviously whipped as fuck

Haha, okay, fine then.

XIII_rocks posted...

Any way of backing up your data so this doesn't happen again?

I know of none. I'll just have to risk it.

Underleveled posted...

Yep, similar things will happen throughout the series.

Eh, that's life.

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Dee was an early favorite of mine. She's just so dang cool and classy. And that '?' bit was hilarious.

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One of the cool little touches with Vasquez is that she gets the slightly lower "male" boops when she speaks instead of the higher "female" boops, implying she has smoker's lung

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Leonhart4 posted...

One of the cool little touches with Vasquez is that she gets the slightly lower "male" boops when she speaks instead of the higher "female" boops, implying she has smoker's lung

Ha, I missed that.

- After skipping through almost the entire first day as fast as possible, I finally get to where I was before. Lotta Hart is proven to be full of it, and Phoenix demands she show the photo enlargement. And of course, the guy shooting in the enlargement is using his left hand.
- Its well-presented when you finally get a victory over von Karma and his objection is overruled.
- The judge is like Well, I guess Edgeworth couldnt have fired the gun that night. Really? I mean, Ill take it, but that seems kind of premature. von Karma could have just said Edgeworth is secretly ambidextrous, fired the first shot with his right hand, and then used his left hand for the second. Tell me that wouldnt fit in this game. Instead we learn that Hammond couldnt have killed himself because he was shot from a meter away.
- A meter?! Thats three feet!
- Court is adjourned.

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Oh just wait

It gets better

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Oh I left out a note.
- Went to the police department before the park this time, I like how the cops just assume Maya is a criminal for no reason.

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Well, she has been arrested twice in a relatively short span of time!

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also I'm realizing that you're playing 1-4 at right around the perfect time

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- Lotta is like Yo dawg Ill progress the plot for you if you prove Gourdy doesnt exist, and Gumshoe is like Heres three objects that can do that. I choose the fishing pole because it seems the most useless.
- You outta your doggone mind? Yes!
- After the fishing rod and dog prove useless (or at least I couldnt figure out how to use them), I take the metal detector. Even the description is the only one that calls it useful.
- Finally, we prove that Gourdy is just Larrys stupid inflatable doll.
- We go into the boat crazy caretakers shack. He has a parrot that will be perfect for calling as a witness later. Even if you told me the parrot doesnt get called as a witness, I wouldnt believe you. Ive never been more certain of anything than I am that that parrot is going to be a witness.
- Ah, the traditional American kotatsu.
- The parrot talks about DL-6 as we leave. Im calling it here: this is the guy accused of killing Edgeworths father who got off. Someone mentioned earlier that he disappeared, and we never learn this guys name (at least today).
- Game, I just saw the parrot talk about DL-6, do you have to give me a flashback to it when I speak to Gumshoe not even three minutes later?
- Finally, we learn about DL-6. Fifteen years ago, there was an earthquake that rocked the courthouse. Three people were stuck in an elevator: Edgeworth, his dad who'd just lost a court case, and a guy named Yanni Yogi who's probably the old man because he had brain damage from oxygen deprivation. When they were pulled out, Edgeworths dad was dead and the survivors were unconscious. A pistol was in the elevator, and had been fired twice Just like this current case.
- The game skims over Edgeworth's dad losing his court case, but I'm guessing it was against von Karma. How do I know this? Because von Karma is the only remaining evil person with a sprite.
- The biggest revelation of this incident is that Edgeworth has not changed his haircut in 15 years. Im not even making fun of that, thats something I can absolutely see him doing. I also love how his dad is dressed normally, but even at like nine years old Edgeworth is dressed like a pompous noble.

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Anagram posted...

- After the fishing rod and dog prove useless (or at least I couldnt figure out how to use them)

You can't progress the plot with them. They just give you optional scenes while you possess them (which I'm assuming you triggered). You have to pick the metal detector in order to progress the plot, so it's good you saved that one for last!

Edgeworth's dad is designed to look like Atticus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird. That's why his English name is Gregory, after Gregory Peck, who played Atticus in the movie.

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Hype

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LeonhartFour posted...

Edgeworth's dad is designed to look like Atticus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird. That's why his English name is Gregory, after Gregory Peck, who played Atticus in the movie.

Oh jeez, I 100% missed that.

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LeonhartFour posted...

also I'm realizing that you're playing 1-4 at right around the perfect time

Yeah, it's almost the perfect time.
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Anagram posted...

- Ah, the traditional American kotatsu.

https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/culture-schlock

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- I was taking a meaningful pause before speaking!
- Look, I understand that the world this game takes place in is wacky and nothing matters, but come on. This boat shop owner is literally the least reliable witness in the history of fiction.
- Jesus Christ, von Karmas surprised/angry face is a thing of beauty. I didnt see that one coming.
- I love how terrible Larrys testimony is.
- We should care! Why? Well how do you know if you dont try?
- Two sets of gunshots ahhhh okay but then why did Lotta not notice the first set in her car?
- I selected the row of boats as the place where the murder took place, thinking it would be considered the same by the game as the boat shop. When it wasnt, I had to select basically everywhere else before finally realizing the boat shop is different from the boats. Guess Im dumb!
- I like how the boat shop caretaker is the murderer, I didnt expect that. I thought it would somehow be von Karma.
- I like how this murder is so unbelievably convoluted that multiple characters pause the game in order to explain it in excruciating detail so you can follow it.
- One thing I dont understand, did we get an explanation of why Edgeworth didnt just say the guy shot the water twice, then dove in? I remember him saying his memory was hazy, but not an explanation for why it was hazy.
- Edgeworth admits that hes had a nightmare of committing muuuurdeeeerrrrr. To be continued?!

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Anagram posted...

When it wasnt, I had to select basically everywhere else before finally realizing the boat shop is different from the boats. Guess Im dumb!

Haha, I'm pretty sure everyone has had at least one moment like that when picking a spot on a map in the series.

Anagram posted...

One thing I dont understand, did we get an explanation of why Edgeworth didnt just say the guy shot the water twice, then dove in? I remember him saying his memory was hazy, but not an explanation for why it was hazy.

Well, it was ridiculously foggy, for one thing, and the whole experience was probably so disorienting (and happened so fast) that he probably couldn't really comprehend what was happening.

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Didn't he bring up that he heard the gunshot up close and that he thought the other guy had shot himself and fell into the water?

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LeonhartFour posted...

also I'm realizing that you're playing 1-4 at right around the perfect time

"Almost Christmas" means it isn't Christmas!

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- I like how Phoenix acts like defense attorney is an inherently more ethical job than a prosecutor.
- When something smells, its usually the Butz.
- You know, Im glad we got Phoenixs backstory and whatever, but am I alone in thinking that its odd to introduce the main characters backstory 95% of the way through the game?
- Im the only one who knows the real Edgeworth. Im the only one who can help him. This is the most yaoi thing Ive ever read in my life.
- I highly illegally open up the caretakers safe and find a letter explaining exactly how to kill Hammond and frame Edgeworth for it. Edgeworth is like My nightmare of killing my father is real, I killed him when I threw him a gun and it went off.
- Grossberg is like Dude I dont know why Edgeworth and I never mentioned this before, but Edgeworths dad tried to implicate von Karma in forged evidence, also this letter was written by von Karma.
- Even accidental murder is still murder. Youre the worst lawyer on Earth, Grossberg. Literally no one would convict a seven year-old for throwing a gun to help his father whos being attacked by a crazy guy, then the gun going off and killing the father.
- Sounds like Detective Gumshoe is really pounding the pavement!
- Ahhhhh Ive never seen von Karma from this angle before, I didnt know he had more than one sprite.
- Can I just say, the idea that von Karma doesnt bother remembering defense lawyers because theyre so easily crushed is such good character work.
- I attempt to not present the letter from the safe to von Karma, because thats obviously insane and stupid and no one would ever do that, but the game apparently cannot progress unless I do, so he stuns us with a taser. I lose the letter, but gain the murder bullet from DL-6.
- GodDAMMIT, I was going to type out how Phoenix uses evidence unnecessarily to prove that the caretaker is Yanni Yogi instead of just taking the guys fingerprints, but then the game actually does that and explains why it wont work.
- I knew it. The parrot takes the stand.
- It must hurt to be ignored by a bird.
- Hello! Hello! Certainly the most concise testimony weve had so far.
- I like the image of von Karma sneaking into the caretakers shack and secretly retraining a parrot not to talk about DL-6 even though there is no way he could have ever known about that.
- I set my ATM cards number to 0001 because Im number one!
- von Karma mentions his seven year-old granddaughter. But I know from B8 that he has a sixteen year-old daughter in the next game or two. Robbing that cradle, I see.
- Gah, Yanni Yogis true form is unexpected.
- Oh my god, this is literally that meme.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/886/724/88f.jpg
- von Karma seems awfully level-headed for losing his first case.
- Now, now, Mr. von Karma, save your surprise for after youve seen the evidence.
- It was something else that made that bullet hole in the door. You just said it was a bullet hole!
- Mias ghost or whatever reaches out to Phoenix, Im unclear on exactly what happens here.
- I can tell youre grasping, yet I cannot deny the possibility of what you say.
- Seeing von Karmas frightened sprite is actually really satisfying. Then his freakout sprite and smashing his head against the wall. I said this before, but this game is good as presentation.
- I love the irony of Phoenix and Edgeworth both misunderstanding the cases that affected their lives and becoming the opposite type of lawyers they should have been.
- Maya leaves on a train to continue working as a spirit medium, and the game ends with an epilogue describing how the train was involved in a horrible accident and everyone aboard was tragically killed, leading Phoenix to a life of alcoholism and depression.
- The defense attorney for whom I wrote that affidavit for! Goddammit, bellboy.
- What the crap, the next episode doesnt have Turnabout in its name?

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Man, the last day of 1-4 is so good.

1-5 is called Turnabout Revived/Revival in Japanese. Not sure why they went with something different for the English version.

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Yeah, Ill post thoughts on each case after I finish.

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Just going to warn you that 1-5 is almost twice as long as 1-4. It follows the case length of the second and third games more than the first's.

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Anagram posted...

You know, Im glad we got Phoenixs backstory and whatever, but am I alone in thinking that its odd to introduce the main characters backstory 95% of the way through the game?

i didn't. it's tied with edgeworth's story and the fact edgeworth is kept somewhat mysterious is key to the story's structure.

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I think Phoenix's backstory being so simple and not that relevant to the plot is pretty fitting for the character.

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Anagram posted...

- Seeing von Karmas frightened sprite is actually really satisfying. Then his freakout sprite and smashing his head against the wall. I said this before, but this game is good as presentation.

So freaking good

The metal detector man

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Leonhart4 posted...

Just going to warn you that 1-5 is almost twice as long as 1-4. It follows the case length of the second and third games more than the first's.

Oh, are the later games way longer than the first?

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Yeah, and they gradually get longer as the series goes along. I did a playthrough where I timed all the games, and PW1's original four cases took like 12 hours combined. It jumps up to like 20 hours with 1-5. PW2 is about 20 hours with just 4 cases.

AA6 is about 40 hours across 6 cases.

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Well, I'm just playing the first three because that's what's on Steam, but that's useful information, thanks.

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Well, all the games are available on phones, too, if you ever want to go that route.

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3DS as well.

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1-5 is also one of the least-intuitive cases as far as what to do/where to go next goes. There were several spots where I was banging my head against the wall von Karma style wondering what the hell I needed to do to make the game progress.

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Underleveled posted...

1-5 is also one of the least-intuitive cases as far as what to do/where to go next goes. There were several spots where I was banging my head against the wall von Karma style wondering what the hell I needed to do to make the game progress.

Greattttttttt.

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