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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 2:43:49 PM
#101:


shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah bro lets legalize heroin! Makes motherfuckers feel good yeah freedom dawg!
Fuck yea! Meth too. a lot of people feel good after taking meth. it is their constitutional right!

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 2:44:58 PM
#102:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Fuck yea! Meth too. a lot of people feel good after taking meth. it is their constitutional right!
Meanwhile in Portugal.

Smarten up.

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 2:46:26 PM
#103:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Fuck yea! Meth too. a lot of people feel good after taking meth. it is their constitutional right!
Be careful, I've been attacked for saying drugs shouldnt be legalized, for some reason.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 2:48:15 PM
#105:


shockthemonkey posted...
Portugal decriminalized as a way of dealing with drugs as a health issue. They did not legalize recreational drugs just because they feel good.
No shit.

Point stands.

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 2:48:58 PM
#106:


shockthemonkey posted...
Portugal decriminalized as a way of dealing with drugs as a health issue. They did not legalize recreational drugs just because they feel good.
Dont do it. There's your health issue solved.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 2:49:46 PM
#107:


Duncanwii posted...
Dont do it. There's your health issue solved.
Shut up Dunc.

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linid0t
12/21/19 2:50:42 PM
#109:


Cornmuffins posted...
He hasn't signed it so no, it's not official. I know there's other stuff in the bill that gives him reason to sign, but with this dude at president I'm not ready to deal with absolutes

Imaging hating the POTUS son much you double down on being wrong of just using google
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Duncanwii
12/21/19 2:50:45 PM
#110:


electricbugs2 posted...
Shut up Dunc.
No. I see no reason to want drugs legalized and on the streets unless you want easier access to them.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 2:53:44 PM
#111:


Duncanwii posted...
No. I see no reason to want drugs legalized and on the streets unless you want easier access to them.
No Im telling you to shut it because you literally have zero clue what youre on about, as usual. Do we need to get Sable to have the vagina talk with you again, except for drugs?

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linid0t
12/21/19 2:54:36 PM
#112:


Duncanwii posted...
No. I see no reason to want drugs legalized and on the streets unless you want easier access to them.

Duncan since when was it hard to buy drugs exactly
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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 2:56:05 PM
#113:


drugs are no harder to buy than cheese lol

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:00:04 PM
#114:


linid0t posted...
Duncan since when was it hard to buy drugs exactly
its not difficult if you know where to go or who to talk to. not everyone does so for many its difficult. If you can just walk into a 7/11 and get some meth it would be significantly easier than it is now. Obviously.

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:01:48 PM
#115:


TheVipaGTS posted...
its not difficult if you know where to go or who to talk to. not everyone does so for many its difficult. If you can just walk into a 7/11 and get some meth it would be significantly easier than it is now. Obviously.

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:01:59 PM
#116:


linid0t posted...
Duncan since when was it hard to buy drugs exactly
It should be made significantly harder, not easier.

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:03:19 PM
#118:


Duncanwii posted...
It should be made significantly harder, not easier.

Good plan but how do we implement that above what the government and law enforcement already do?

Maybe we should offer free pokemon cards at 7-11 to the people who don't buy drugs in the parking lot or something
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MarqueeSeries
12/21/19 3:03:22 PM
#119:


Opioids and amphetamines should he treated as a health issue and regulated/decriminalized

Their use shouldnt be encouraged, but their consumption shouldn't land you in prison, where the problem is guaranteed to get worse
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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 3:04:23 PM
#120:


linid0t posted...
Maybe we should offer free pokemon cards at 7-11 to the people who don't buy drugs in the parking lot or something
7/11 is so delicious. if people don't buy their food then pokemon cards won't change their minds either

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:05:14 PM
#121:


Wewillrocku posted...
7/11 is so delicious. if people don't buy their food then pokemon cards won't change their minds either

Well I'm curious what Duncan's plan is then unless he has no idea about the millions and millions then government wastes on the war of drugs every year
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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:05:37 PM
#122:


linid0t posted...
Good plan but how do we implement that above what the government and law enforcement already do?
Radically up the punishments for distribution and bring back programs like DARE to teach young children the dangers of drug use. That filth shouldnt be allowed to be advertised either.

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:07:46 PM
#123:


MarqueeSeries posted...
Opioids and amphetamines should he treated as a health issue and regulated/decriminalized

Their use shouldnt be encouraged, but their consumption shouldn't land you in prison, where the problem is guaranteed to get worse
exactly. just like with cigs and alcohol. those affect the body, just not as bad and not as immediate. they fuck you up slowly over time. we're at least getting to a point where alcoholics and those addicted to cigarettes aren't always viewed as losers or criminals. there is more of an outcry for help for those people...same should be done for other drugs. decriminalization is a good thing. There are people doing more time for having weed than people who literally beat someone significantly....which is odd...Locking them up isn't exactly helping the issue. its just making things worse.

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:07:47 PM
#124:


Duncanwii posted...
Radically up the punishments for distribution and bring back programs like DARE to teach young children the dangers of drug use. That filth shouldnt be allowed to be advertised either.

  1. It's been proven that upping the punishments for drug use or distribution doesnt change anything. Its also been proven that offering users and addicts help instead does do something. Less users, less distributors.
  2. DARE and other programs are still around but are focused on th evil empire of mango flavored USB sticks currently
  3. Who exactly advertises meth on TV
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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 3:09:31 PM
#125:


linid0t posted...
1. It's been proven that upping the punishments for drug use or distribution doesnt change anything. Its also been proven that offering users and addicts help instead does do something. Less users, less distributors.
2. DARE and other programs are still around but are focused on th evil empire of mango flavored USB sticks currently
3. Who exactly advertises meth on TV
you'd think someone who's sincerely against drugs would already know this

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:11:00 PM
#127:


shockthemonkey posted...
Duncan hates Breaking Bad confirmed
I still think FYE needs to get legally charged with some sort of crime for distributing Breaking Bad candy meth in stores. Get them for advertising drugs to children.

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FL81
12/21/19 3:11:52 PM
#129:


fuck Trump

another tyrant eroding our liberties
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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 3:14:34 PM
#130:


it's stressful having donald trump as president lol

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:16:12 PM
#131:


shockthemonkey posted...
Thats ok, no one cares what you think
So you think stores should be able to sell imitation drugs?

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:17:40 PM
#132:


Dare just....didn't work. They spoke to students about drugs and gangs, but those students were so young (3-6thish grade), that the majority didn't think about it or even absorb much of it. By the time high school came peer pressure kinda of superseded what some random cop and a bunch of overly happy, corny people told them during an assembly in 5th grade where they got a pencil that said DARE on it...Its better to use those potential funds to fund more after school programs, or academies where kids can go, do homework, be creative, etc.

I know this is an extreme example, and he had some other help along the way (a lot of it but...), one of Chance the Rappers first mixtapes was made after he was suspended from school. Rather than stay home or just fuck around on the streets he said he would go to these local clubs at the library that people in the city put on, one of which included music and beat making, etc....he focused on that. If we can get more things like that around the nation it would do more good than just saying "drugs bad, don't do drugs, here's a branded pencil to remind you drugs bad".

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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 3:19:18 PM
#133:


TheVipaGTS posted...
Dare just....didn't work.
americans are always against education like dare. it's bizarre.

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:21:32 PM
#134:


Wewillrocku posted...
americans are always against education like dare. it's bizarre.
I'm not against education like DARE. I'm just saying the program, from what i can remember, didn't do much. After we all grew up no one gave a fuck about what was said in DARE. That education needs to continue on for much longer, and like i said we need more youth groups where these kids can go. Having a week of DARE isn't doing much. There are other ways to a) get this education in the curriculum and b) find ways to keep the students occupied with more programs THEY find interesting. And i don't mean those random church groups that most students would find corny and scoff at, or an after school "study hall" where students just mess around until they can leave anyway. Start funding better programs like you do Football programs.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 3:27:44 PM
#135:


DARE was a joke. The amount of people I know who wear lion shirts from them while getting high is hilarious.

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:29:42 PM
#136:


electricbugs2 posted...
DARE was a joke. The amount of people I know who wear lion shirts from them while getting high is hilarious.
DARE shirts have just become your typical nostalgia thing now. Most stores that sell graphic tees with old cartoon characters on them will have a DARE shirt sitting there too...Its lost all meaning.

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:30:45 PM
#137:


TheVipaGTS posted...
DARE shirts have just become your typical nostalgia thing now. Most stores that sell graphic tees with old cartoon characters on them will have a DARE shirt sitting there too...Its lost all meaning.
Then bring it back and give it meaning. Doing something to educate children is better than doing nothing.

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Villain
12/21/19 3:31:28 PM
#138:


all I remember from DARE is that weed is a gateway drug

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:33:04 PM
#140:


Duncanwii posted...
Then bring it back and give it meaning. Doing something to educate children is better than doing nothing.

People learn best through their own mistakes, it's going to take more than some mega nerds telling me it's cool to study and be polite if you want to change a teenagers desire to fit in and experiment.
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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:33:50 PM
#141:


linid0t posted...
People learn best through their own mistakes, it's going to take more than some mega nerds telling me it's cool to study and be polite if you want to change a teenagers desire to fit in and experiment.
People die from taking drugs. Doing nothing to stop them is morally wrong.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 3:34:59 PM
#142:


shockthemonkey posted...
DARE used deliberate misinformation and scaremongering which caused people to experiment with drugs more once they realized they had been lied to.
We didnt have DARE in Canada but I remember my 4th grade teacher telling me weed was worse then cigs. Shit like that doesnt help.

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linid0t
12/21/19 3:35:44 PM
#143:


Duncanwii posted...
People die from taking drugs. Doing nothing to stop them is wrong.

People die from taking drugs without discourse or experience. If all drugs just killed people we just gave out about a billion flu shots again - everybody gunna die.

People die from driving to work, better to ban driving then let them die on the way to work
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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:35:59 PM
#144:


Duncanwii posted...
People die from taking drugs. Doing nothing to stop them is morally wrong.
no one said do nothing. we're just telling you that DARE and programs like it aren't going to do anything. its a waste of money and those funds are better suited in other programs.

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electricbugs2
12/21/19 3:37:01 PM
#145:


linid0t posted...
People die from taking drugs without discourse or experience. If all drugs just killed people we just gave out about a billion flu shots again - everybody gunna die.

People die from driving to work, better to ban driving then let them die on the way to work
Seriously. You can die from eating too many cheeseburgers. Better ban McDolans and all other fast food burger joints.

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TheVipaGTS
12/21/19 3:37:32 PM
#146:


electricbugs2 posted...
We didnt have DARE in Canada but I remember my 4th grade teacher telling me weed was worse then cigs. Shit like that doesnt help.
Weed is closer to alcohol than it is cigarettes....with a much much much more decreased element of the extreme physical damage it can cause to your liver, or kidneys, or lungs, etc...

But all that aside, Im not for a full on lift on the legality of certain drugs in the recreational sense (except weed, for the reason above)..Im for decriminalization for users.

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Duncanwii
12/21/19 3:37:59 PM
#147:


>Compares drug use to fast food.

Something tells me you arent taking this seriously.

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Wewillrocku
12/21/19 3:38:32 PM
#149:


DARE used deliberate misinformation and scaremongering
no it didn't, smh.

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TheGreatGeno6
12/21/19 3:45:45 PM
#150:


Lol @ anyone who thinks this will stop kids from smoking. I started at 14 when the law was still 18, do you think it was hard to get cigarettes and alcohol? Fuck no, all I had to do was ask someone I knew that was over 21 and they would always get it for me

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