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SrRd_RacinG
01/02/20 11:59:03 PM
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DevsBro
01/03/20 12:00:45 AM
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I was never a huge fan of decimals in ratings anyway unless you're trying to rank like dozens of things.

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Damn_Underscore
01/03/20 12:04:03 AM
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What is the the objective difference between Great, Good, and Okay?

Why is Unbearable worse than Painful?

Why is an average score (5/10) have a negative implication?

If they are going by the "Less than 70& is actually bad" metric, why is 6/10 Okay?

Why do the good scores go up gradually but the bad scores go right from Bad to Awful?

Why is IGN such garbage?
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XxKrazyChaosxX
01/03/20 12:04:15 AM
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They should have went with the Adam Sessler rating system.

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Conception616
01/03/20 12:23:06 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...


Why is an average score (5/10) have a negative implication?



Why would you think 5/10 is average? Can you imagine receiving that type of score at school?
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Tropicalwood
01/03/20 12:24:22 AM
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XxKrazyChaosxX posted...
They should have went with the Adam Sessler rating system.
a five, out of five out of five out of five out of five out of five

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__aCEr__
01/03/20 12:25:47 AM
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It's the content of the review and not the number that matters.

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BroodRyu
01/03/20 12:26:07 AM
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I dont consider mediocre to be a negative connotation. Its average by definition. Neither positive nor negative. Its just mediocre.
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Sonic Cannon
01/03/20 12:27:31 AM
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This is a good change. I've come to think that a 1-5 scale is probably the best. 1-10 is fine too, but half-steps and decimals are pretty impossible to justify on such a granular level.

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Sonic Cannon
01/03/20 12:31:32 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
What is the the objective difference between Great, Good, and Okay?
It doesn't matter. They just wanted a 1 word summary of each score's approximate meaning

Why is Unbearable worse than Painful?

Unbearable suggests that it literally cannot be tolerated. e.g. a game probably wouldn't fit a 1/10 if the reviewed actually managed to finish it all before uninstalling

Why is an average score (5/10) have a negative implication?

Mediocre means "around the middle". That seems appropriate for a 5 out of 10

If they are going by the "Less than 70& is actually bad" metric, why is 6/10 Okay?

They're not. Looks like 4/10 or less is "bad" here

Why do the good scores go up gradually but the bad scores go right from Bad to Awful?

There are fewer appropriate words to describe degrees of badness than there are for degrees of goodness. This is really not an important aspect of the scale

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radical rhino
01/03/20 12:39:24 AM
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Okay is better than mediocre?

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Bad_Mojo
01/03/20 12:41:33 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Why is an average score (5/10) have a negative implication?

5/10 = 50% = An F

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Questionmarktarius
01/03/20 12:42:28 AM
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So... are 6-10 still going to be the only numbers that actually show up?
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Damn_Underscore
01/03/20 12:46:13 AM
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The school grade comparison is so dumb, because then there's no reason to have most of those scores. If your scoring is like school grades, then you MUST have a 5 star/5 letter/etc. scoring system.
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SiO4
01/03/20 12:48:28 AM
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IGN Scores have been garbage for years.

They really should just rate them on how mainstream they are, and nothing else..which is all they ever do.
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Questionmarktarius
01/03/20 12:50:14 AM
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Any reviewer who gets a review copy from the publisher, is automatically suspect.
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radical rhino
01/03/20 12:50:46 AM
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This is still meaningless as long as they keep giving 9s to every single big budget game.

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SiO4
01/03/20 12:53:55 AM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
I gotta keep the decimal system alive


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SrRd_RacinG
01/03/20 1:27:07 AM
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1-5 is the best,

1 and 2 = skip

3= wait for sale

4 and 5 are buy now

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Kaiganeer
01/03/20 1:35:59 AM
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a 1-5 scale is the best system

1-10 and 1-100 scales only exist to feed metacritic bigger numbers
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Rika_Furude
01/03/20 1:42:03 AM
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I prefer scoring based on each aspect of the game

I.e. story, gameplay, graphics, etc

Nier Automata is a 5/5 game, but not for the same reasons Breath of the Wild is a 5/5
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AlisLandale
01/03/20 1:42:52 AM
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There is a difference between the average and the median.

The average would be the combination of all rated games divided by the amount of rated games.

If there are 10 games:

1 is 3/10
3 are 6/10
2 are 7/10
1 is 8/10
2 are 9/10
1 is 10/10

Then the average is actually about 7.

now, if someone wanted to do the math and average out all of IGNs scores, it could conceivable average out to 5/10, but that would only be a coincidence, not how averages work

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Zack_Attackv1
01/03/20 1:57:36 AM
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Might as well considering they have long since ditched journalism.
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Sonic Cannon
01/03/20 2:07:12 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I prefer scoring based on each aspect of the game

I.e. story, gameplay, graphics, etc

Nier Automata is a 5/5 game, but not for the same reasons Breath of the Wild is a 5/5
This is better served by just having a written review to explain the details, no? It doesn't really matter to me if BOTW and Nier are 5/5 games for different reasons, a 5/5 is a strong recommendation regardless.

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Rika_Furude
01/03/20 2:17:23 AM
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Sonic Cannon posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
I prefer scoring based on each aspect of the game

I.e. story, gameplay, graphics, etc

Nier Automata is a 5/5 game, but not for the same reasons Breath of the Wild is a 5/5
This is better served by just having a written review to explain the details, no? It doesn't really matter to me if BOTW and Nier are 5/5 games for different reasons, a 5/5 is a strong recommendation regardless.

Yeah id prefer in depth reviews as well
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NinjaBreakfast
01/03/20 2:21:18 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
I prefer scoring based on each aspect of the game

I.e. story, gameplay, graphics, etc
This is, in fact, the worst way of doing it. Reminds me of all those awful compartmentalised gamefaqs reviews.

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Wetterdew
01/03/20 2:32:39 AM
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If they're going to stop using decimals then they should adjust so that they use more of the scale instead of just the top half.

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Conception616
01/03/20 7:21:21 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The school grade comparison is so dumb, because then there's no reason to have most of those scores. If your scoring is like school grades, then you MUST have a 5 star/5 letter/etc. scoring system.


A student who gets a 50/F scores better than a student who got a 20/F, so you are still wrong.

Lets compare it to how men and women score each other. Would you really think you pulled an average girl if shes a fucking FIVE? A five isnt hideous, but she certainly is below average.
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bover_87
01/03/20 7:51:47 AM
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Imagine still caring about IGN's paid-off reviews in 2020

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Jiggy101011
01/03/20 8:16:14 AM
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Wetterdew posted...
If they're going to stop using decimals then they should adjust so that they use more of the scale instead of just the top half.

Using the IGN scale what game in recent times has deserved a 1-4?


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DevsBro
01/03/20 8:30:33 AM
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How can you guys take this so seriously. I don't understand.

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Veggeta_MAX
01/03/20 8:40:55 AM
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Remember when Twilight Princess was given an 8.8?

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gna647
01/03/20 8:42:04 AM
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IGNs scoring means bothing

they play it safe not to piss off any companies so they give all games a 7 and above. Trash reviewers

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NinjaBreakfast
01/03/20 8:46:34 AM
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Toxic Gamer culture is also to blame for people being afraid to give things scores below 7.

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markconigliaro
01/03/20 8:48:31 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Remember when Twilight Princess was given an 8.8?

GameSpot dropped the decimals in 2013.

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Charitwo
01/03/20 9:02:03 AM
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seems very familiar

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RootinTootinMFR
01/03/20 9:14:41 AM
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Does that mean The Last Jedi gets rounded up to a perfect 10?

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googs19
01/03/20 9:32:30 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
So... are 6-10 still going to be the only numbers that actually show up?

They generally don't waste time reviewing all of the truly awful crap that no-one cares about, so the lower end of the range doesn't show up very often.
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Damn_Underscore
01/03/20 11:59:28 AM
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Conception616 posted...


A student who gets a 50/F scores better than a student who got a 20/F, so you are still wrong.

Lets compare it to how men and women score each other. Would you really think you pulled an average girl if shes a fucking FIVE? A five isnt hideous, but she certainly is below average.


Yes...

In fact, that isn't a good comparison either. Do you think 70% of people in the world are ugly? Looks are much more likely to follow a normal curve where there are a lot of average-looking people and you are equally likely to find amazingly beautiful and horribly ugly people.
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Prestoff
01/03/20 12:09:41 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
It's the content of the review and not the number that matters.

This

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Damn_Underscore
01/03/20 12:15:30 PM
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Prestoff posted...


This


But the content is the individual reviewer's opinion. Not that the website's opinion matters, but the score is more likely to reflect the collective opinion of the website - either that or the scores are meaningless because different reviewers have different standards and a 7 from one reviewer is not the same as a 7 from another reviewer.

Either way professional game reviews suck.
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Hayame Zero
01/03/20 12:21:24 PM
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Good riddance. People would get so up-in-arms comparing other stuff because of point differences, when they can't be compared regardless.

But I wish they'd just have reviews without scores in general. Even Roger Ebert hated giving star ratings, and only did it because he was required by the newspaper.

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Prestoff
01/03/20 12:48:19 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
But the content is the individual reviewer's opinion. Not that the website's opinion matters, but the score is more likely to reflect the collective opinion of the website - either that or the scores are meaningless because different reviewers have different standards and a 7 from one reviewer is not the same as a 7 from another reviewer.

Either way professional game reviews suck.

Duh. Thats why its important to read what they actually say in the review than going by the score at the very end or reading some shitty pro/cons at the end without context.

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Jiggy101011
01/03/20 1:36:23 PM
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gna647 posted...
IGNs scoring means bothing

they play it safe not to piss off any companies so they give all games a 7 and above. Trash reviewers

Death Stranding - 6.8

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Conception616
01/03/20 1:49:01 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...


Yes...

In fact, that isn't a good comparison either. Do you think 70% of people in the world are ugly? Looks are much more likely to follow a normal curve where there are a lot of average-looking people and you are equally likely to find amazingly beautiful and horribly ugly people.


You must have only been with dogs if you think a 5 is average. Im sorry for your luck.
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Damn_Underscore
01/03/20 3:29:01 PM
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Conception616 posted...


You must have only been with dogs if you think a 5 is average. Im sorry for your luck.


Um they are literally just made up numbers
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Disengaged
01/03/20 3:32:54 PM
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Now they only need to ditch selling the fucking game they are supposed to be reviewing with links plastered to their store where they make money off of selling the game they are reviewing... in their damn review!

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DeadBankerDream
01/03/20 3:36:07 PM
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Decimals in review scores always strike me as super try hard. Like they're weighting several subsections of the game to reach a median score.

But that's stupid because the total value of an entertainment product is not a median of the visuals, the music, the acting, the whatever arbitrary criteria you wanna throw in there. The whole isn't always greater than the sum of its parts, but it is always different to that sum.
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