Current Events > BREAKING: U.S. officials confident Iran shot down passenger jet

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Scorsese2002
01/09/20 12:02:21 PM
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Special report on CBS right now...
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spudger
01/09/20 12:02:47 PM
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do we get to see this "confidence" ?
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garlic powder
01/09/20 12:04:12 PM
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eston
01/09/20 12:07:06 PM
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Seems a little too convenient tbqh

Unless Iran claims responsibility I will remain skeptical

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Maze_
01/09/20 12:07:11 PM
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I am shocked

Shocked

...well not that shocked

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NinjaWarrior455
01/09/20 12:07:24 PM
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spudger posted...
do we get to see this "confidence" ?


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KillerKhan420
01/09/20 12:09:03 PM
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An accident for sure. They were obviously on high alert after the missile attack. Ukraine going to turn on Iran now.

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Antifar
01/09/20 12:10:04 PM
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An unfortunate echo of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655?wprov=sfla1
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Bio1590
01/09/20 12:10:32 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
An accident for sure. They were obviously on high alert after the missile attack. Ukraine going to turn on Iran now.

Why would they? There weren't even that many Ukrainians on the flight all things considered
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Exeggcute
01/09/20 12:10:36 PM
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They "accidentally" killed 176 people. That's terrible.

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CruelBuffalo
01/09/20 12:11:52 PM
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Exeggcute posted...
They "accidentally" killed 176 people. That's terrible.


not including the 40 trampled to death in Iran
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Kazi1212
01/09/20 12:11:58 PM
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What would be the motive though? Makes no sense

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The Trent
01/09/20 12:13:01 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
What would be the motive though? Makes no sense

just because they are to blame for shooting it down doesn't mean they did it on purpose

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Weezy_Tha_Don
01/09/20 12:14:12 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
What would be the motive though? Makes no sense

Showing off that firepower

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CruelBuffalo
01/09/20 12:16:02 PM
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Russian rebels in Ukraine just did this a few years ago. Nothing happening to them. Nothing will happen to Iran for this.
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BignutzisBack
01/09/20 12:16:29 PM
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UnlikedMonkey
01/09/20 12:18:43 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Is Canada going to go to war with Iran!?

They basically have to right? Over 60 of their own people were murdered.

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Anticyclonic
01/09/20 12:19:58 PM
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A side effect of Trump's inflammatory actions recently tbh

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BlackSheep715
01/09/20 12:20:20 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
A side effect of Trump's inflammatory actions recently tbh


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Vyrulisse
01/09/20 12:20:27 PM
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Didn't everybody already assume they did anyway?

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linid0t
01/09/20 12:21:44 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Is Canada going to go to war with Iran!?

Absolutely not. Have you seen our prime minister
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brestugo
01/09/20 12:22:52 PM
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I'm gonna need a lot more information before making up my mind on this

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MrToothHasYou
01/09/20 12:23:44 PM
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I mean on one hand yeah, that seems like the most obvious conclusion to make given the known circumstances.

On the other hand... are these the same US officials who were confident that Iraq had WMDs?

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s0nicfan
01/09/20 12:24:04 PM
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It's totally understandable that a panicky pilot or soldier would shoot it down given the stakes that night. The real question is why the hell were they letting commercial airlines take off in the first place? If they were really preparing for retaliation and scrambling jets... shouldn't they have grounded commercial flights for at LEAST a few hours?

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AloofHermit
01/09/20 12:24:26 PM
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FaultyGourry
01/09/20 12:29:33 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
A side effect of Trump's inflammatory actions recently tbh

What a shitty take.

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Purely
01/09/20 12:34:02 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
A side effect of Trump's inflammatory actions recently tbh

What inflammatory actions? Our response to Iran's act of war in attacking our embassy?
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s0nicfan
01/09/20 12:35:25 PM
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Purely posted...
What inflammatory actions? Our response to Iran's act of war in attacking our embassy?

To quote a user from a topic a few days ago:
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SK8T3R215
01/09/20 12:35:43 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
A side effect of Trump's inflammatory actions recently tbh

Reeeee orange man must be stopped

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Anticyclonic
01/09/20 12:36:29 PM
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FaultyGourry posted...
What a shitty take.

How? He hit a high level target, then threatened them repeatedly on Twitter for the world to see. Prolly made them extra jumpy (though it may have happened regardless of his 52 sites threat)
If the plane was truly shot down then I'd bet money that the plane would not have been shot down if Trump hadn't assassinated that dude.
Explain exactly how I'm wrong, dude...

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DarthWendy
01/09/20 12:36:40 PM
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spudger posted...
do we get to see this "confidence" ?


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garlic powder
01/09/20 12:37:51 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
How? He hit a high level target, then threatened them repeatedly on Twitter for the world to see. Prolly made them extra jumpy (though it may have happened regardless of his 52 sites threat)
If the plane was truly shot down then I'd bet money that the plane would not have been shot down if Trump hadn't assassinated that dude.
Explain exactly how I'm wrong, dude...

Dude, the US Embassy was attacked first.

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Damn_Underscore
01/09/20 12:39:50 PM
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It's insane that people are taking Iran's side and defending Iran because they don't like Trump .

Get your priorities straight.
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FaultyGourry
01/09/20 12:40:32 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
How? He hit a high level target, then threatened them repeatedly on Twitter for the world to see. Prolly made them extra jumpy (though it may have happened regardless of his 52 sites threat)
If the plane was truly shot down then I'd bet money that the plane would not have been shot down if Trump hadn't assassinated that dude.
Explain exactly how I'm wrong, dude...
Oh yeah, it made Iran so jumpy they waited days to do a retaliatory strike on 'shockingly' empty bases but couldn't take the time to either make sure their airspace was clear or identify an obvious passenger jet. Totally Trumps fault for their incompetence.

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NinjaWarrior455
01/09/20 12:40:51 PM
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garlic powder posted...
Dude, the US Embassy was attacked first.
Assassinating the Iranian official was still too drastic a response, especially under the circumstances detailed by the Iraqi PM

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ThyCorndog
01/09/20 12:40:59 PM
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I don't trust our government, military or intelligence agencies one bit. They lie about every single war we ever get into (or try to get into). Why would this be the exception?

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Anticyclonic
01/09/20 12:44:03 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
It's insane that people are taking Iran's side and defending Iran because they don't like Trump .

Get your priorities straight.

What's insane is that peoples' response to "Hey, maybe let's take a different approach" is
"REEE you just dont like Trump! Must be a democrat!!11"


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PostCrisisJ2
01/09/20 12:44:31 PM
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shit sucks

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Anticyclonic
01/09/20 12:45:36 PM
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garlic powder posted...
Dude, the US Embassy was attacked first.

The appropriate response to some property damage was killing someone? Cool.

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Foppe
01/09/20 12:46:41 PM
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garlic powder posted...
Dude, the US Embassy was attacked first.
And it was attacked because...

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BlackSheep715
01/09/20 12:47:39 PM
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Trump created a situation to distract from his impeachment back home. Now Canadians have died to fuel his lies. Blood is on his hands.

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Anticyclonic
01/09/20 12:47:58 PM
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Foppe posted...
And it was attacked because...

That too...it's a stupid back and forth that's been going on for awhile now.

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ThyCorndog
01/09/20 12:48:09 PM
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If we're playing the blame game, it'll always come back to the US because we're the ones that orchestrated a coup on Iran's democratically elected leader decades ago. We probably shouldn't play the blame game because the conflict is a back and forth with Iran that leads back to us fucking with them first

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garlic powder
01/09/20 12:49:26 PM
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Anticyclonic posted...
The appropriate response to some property damage was killing someone? Cool.

The dude literally supported terrorist organizations all over the world and killed an American civilian contractor in Iraq. Both Obama and Biden thought this guy supported terrorists.

In 2011, the Obama administration sanctioned Soleimani for his role in plotting a foiled terror attack in a Washington, D.C. restaurant with the aim of assassinating the Saudi ambassador to the U.S.

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Bio1590
01/09/20 12:49:58 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
It's totally understandable that a panicky pilot or soldier would shoot it down given the stakes that night. The real question is why the hell were they letting commercial airlines take off in the first place? If they were really preparing for retaliation and scrambling jets... shouldn't they have grounded commercial flights for at LEAST a few hours?

That plane did take off hours after Iran was finished firing missiles though.

E: Also I can't seem to find anything that says where the missiles they fired into Iraq came from, but Tehran is a long way from both the targeted sites.
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s0nicfan
01/09/20 12:50:09 PM
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garlic powder posted...
The dude literally supported terrorist organizations all over the world and killed an American civilian contractor in Iraq. Both Obama and Biden thought this guy supported terrorists.

He was also directly sanctioned by unanimous vote in 2007 by the UN security council and again by the EU in 2012 specifically for terrorist acts.

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Foppe
01/09/20 12:50:51 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
If we're playing the blame game, it'll always come back to the US because we're the ones that orchestrated a coup on Iran's democratically elected leader decades ago. We probably shouldn't play the blame game because the conflict is a back and forth with Iran that leads back to us fucking with them first
But you got an American-supporting dictator for a short time.

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rahasperj
01/09/20 12:51:54 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Assassinating the Iranian official was still too drastic a response, especially under the circumstances detailed by the Iraqi PM

No fuck that, if you play with fire, you get burned. Don't kill, don't even threaten Americans. People forget about Benghazi so quick. Or how about the hostage situation in the 70's?
Anticyclonic posted...
The appropriate response to some property damage was killing someone? Cool.

Yeah, 'property damage', let's not forget that Soleimani was directly responsible for the killing and maiming of hundreds, if not thousands, of people. And they totally would've left the embassy alone after that. Totally.

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s0nicfan
01/09/20 12:52:03 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
That plane did take off hours after Iran was finished firing missiles though.

But at that point they had readied a second salvo, publicly threatened to level Dubai and Haifa, and deployed their air force. Waiting at least until it was completely clear there wasn't going to be further escalation would have made sense.

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