Board 8 > Eff 2019 Mafia: Topic 8 - And I Oop

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But why would i be discussing Julian Assange on the scum board? Why would that be on the safe list? I just mixed up the names for some stupid reason that I can't explain.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

Sbell

You might not have read up on HB

But just go look at the final votes of D1.

Do you really think all four wagons were town?

This is going to come back to bite you in approximately 2 and a half hours
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benjamin3740 posted...

But why would i be discussing Julian Assange on the scum board? Why would that be on the safe list? I just mixed up the names for some stupid reason that I can't explain.

I can't answer either of those two questions.

But asking them doesn't make me feel any better about you.

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benjamin3740 posted...

But why would i be discussing Julian Assange on the scum board? Why would that be on the safe list? I just mixed up the names for some stupid reason that I can't explain.

Idk man seems fishy. BUT word of advice if this is truly a mistake LOOK AT YOUR FUCKING DM BEFORE CLAIMING

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But you do know there's no way Julian assange was on the safelist. He's not a 2019 thing. And you just said a few posts ago I made the mistake because I was discussing it on the scumboard as a claim

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Wasn't Assange sentenced in 2019?

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benjamin3740 posted...

But you do know there's no way Julian assange was on the safelist. He's not a 2019 thing. And you just said a few posts ago I made the mistake because I was discussing it on the scumboard as a claim

I dunno, I don't follow Julian assange.

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I dont even know who that is

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TotallyNotMI posted...

Wasn't Assange sentenced in 2019?

i dont know. I dont follow Julian Assange ;-;

WHich is why it's super annoying he was in my head!

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Ugh I'm debating if I'd rather kill Ben than HB now.

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Julian Assange didnt do anything major in 2019 did he?
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"Eh my splinter didn't work. Let's put down a bus vote, realize I did it for the wrong reason, then say f*** it and put it back on" is how I read that.

Blade said this after Scare voted Ben day2

There's like half a dozen levels of bussing at work here if Ben is scum.
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That said, I can still totally see Ben as scum. Thinking about it, his role seems even less useful to us than Hans and he just has not had his usual spark.
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Blade's scumlist halfway during day2
Scare, Ben, Han, IGCD
Well he's got 1 scum on there already. He could have another.
But the fact that he later adds Corrik separately makes me think Corrik is town ever so slightly more. Why bother to include a scummate specifically in your posts?
But thats not strong evidence at all of course.
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Can anyone on the HB lynch answer what we learn if HB is town?

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I am not on the lynch, but I can say I dont see myself learning much
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benjamin3740 posted...

Can anyone on the HB lynch answer what we learn if HB is town?

If he is town not much i guess but dont think he is town. Then i guess we would move on to you at that point?


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Maybe look more into han if hb is infact town. Could have jus been town/town

But could very easily been scum/town

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Who else has han called scum aside from Hb?

I can't recall off hand which is worrying. As if he just wants to get this lynch done then worry about the next step later.

Of course I could have just missed him discussing others

turbopuns3 posted...

Who else has han called scum aside from Hb?

I can't recall off hand which is worrying. As if he just wants to get this lynch done then worry about the next step later.

Of course I could have just missed him discussing others

He's thrown shade my way but has not actively pursued me which has me all effed up.

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Think he also said something about ben today?

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benjamin3740 posted...

Can anyone on the HB lynch answer what we learn if HB is town?

I don't see how this question is relevant?

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Of note:
- Blade left before Ben claimed psychic (thought he may still have seen the claim)
- Blade left because he probably expected Scare to die. He didn't know Ben would even get attention.
- Scare didnt hesitate to vote Ben, but of course Scare would have done anything to stay out of the lead. And he would look worse if he didnt vote Ben there. He also didnt want to buy Bens claim, this despite how people reacted to his refusal to believe red.
- Scare also didnt hesitate to vote Blade though, so perhaps he was in pure survival mode instead.
- Ben himself switched from Scare to Blade, which now doesnt mean much (heck Blade would be more valuable to scum than Scare)
- HB stayed on scare, Puns also switched to Blade (from Ben) and Han finally unvoted Lea to vote Blade.
- Sbell sat kinda on the sidelines (but he was sick too sorta, so ehh?) and Mzero was not even there

And finally Corrik.. did **** all in taking either side. Honestly thats probably the most suspicious one out of the lot now even if it fits his MO.
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all in all day2 got a lot less interesting since the big movers are all confirmed by death now.
Everyone just followed Chris except MI and Corrik
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all in all I dont feel comfortable lynching Ben yet.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If he is town not much i guess but dont think he is town. Then i guess we would move on to you at that point?

So you'd move on to Ben even if he was proven correct?
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TotallyNotMI posted...

I don't see how this question is relevant?

A couple people, but mostly Mzero, said HB's the best lynch because his lynch gives us valuable information about the day 1 lynch. I wanted to ask him directly what he learns if HB is town, but he's asleep

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Isn't Ben the guy that accidentally claimed the wrong safe list flavor before quickly correcting himself?

This sbell quote is weird since it sounds like Sbell already knows Ben claimed from a safelist
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Mzero is very conveniently never around for a deadline. We should make a stand about that tomorrow.
I feel it is too late now for me to investigate Sbell too, especially since he wont be able to claim.
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also I just realized CST is different from what I thought, so I stayed up an extra hour for nothing

That said, I can only choose this

##Vote: HB
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htaeD posted...

This sbell quote is weird since it sounds like Sbell already knows Ben claimed from a safelist

You are reading that wrong. If I am playing assuming that Ben is scum (which I do) then of course any flavor he claims is safe list flavor, so I am going to refer to it as such.

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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Did ben just slip again @MZero11 ?

I wouldn't call it a "slip". The rest of the post makes it clear he meant to type town there and goofed.

benjamin3740 posted...

Mzero's points sucked. As in he didnt make any. He pointed out how bad my play has been. I messed up my claim, I messed up thinking I saw a scum slip on Han, and I've been super inactive, especially day 1 and 2. Are any of those indicative of being scum? If he thought they were, he sure didnt explain why. Just pointed out my obvious mistakes and said "this looks bad." He said he was going to ISO me. That includes reading through the GOOD posts I made. Mzero, is it true that you just dont think I've done a single towny thing or made a single towny move all game? He didnt even try to ISO Han, just gave a generic "He looked good". Because he went in with the intention to call me scum and Han town as that is what he already decided at the start of today.

And when I flip scum he'll go after Han because he said one of us has to be scum.

I did explain that your play makes it look like you didn't actually make reads based on evidence but actually based on results you wanted, which is how scum has to play.

If my evil plan was to lynch you and then go after Han tomorrow why would I go into the Han ISO thinking "how can I town read this guy"

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You are still writing down that assumption as a fact. But eh whatever.
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So it is 5-3-3 HB-ben-sbell if I'm counting correctly

benjamin3740 posted...

A couple people, but mostly Mzero, said HB's the best lynch because his lynch gives us valuable information about the day 1 lynch. I wanted to ask him directly what he learns if HB is town, but he's asleep

His flip tells us whether or not he was being protected at the end of day 1. That whole mess is easier to unpack if we know HB's alignment

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I'm The VOTAL Guy, Duh:
[5] Hb - MI, (MI2), MI2, Sultan, Han, Death
[3] Sbell - Corrik, ben, Hb
[3] ben - puns, MZero, Sbell
[0] puns - (Corrik)
[0] Han - (ben)

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch! Day ends at 9 PM CST tonight (roughly 35 minutes from now)!

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MZero11 posted...

I wouldn't call it a "slip". The rest of the post makes it clear he meant to type town there and goofed.

I did explain that your play makes it look like you didn't actually make reads based on evidence but actually based on results you wanted, which is how scum has to play.

If my evil plan was to lynch you and then go after Han tomorrow why would I go into the Han ISO thinking "how can I town read this guy"

You already stated that one of us has to be scum and that is what prompted you to only focus on me and Han today in the first place. Are you going back on that?

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MZero11 posted...

His flip tells us whether or not he was being protected at the end of day 1. That whole mess is easier to unpack if we know HB's alignment

Again, if he was town and not being protected is anything learned?

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benjamin3740 posted...

Again, if he was town and not being protected is anything learned?

They don't care, Ben
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What do we learn if sbell flips town

That Mzero and Corrik are scum due to process of elimination lol

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I haven't looked at Sbell's voting or getting voted for records, and I'm not sure they exist. Today's really the first day theres any movement in his direction that I recall. So if he is town I'd be looking at today

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Sorry, I've been drawing.

Off the top of my head:

Town
MI

Townish
Puns
Sultan
SBell

????
Ben
MZero

Scummish
Corrik
Death

Scum
Hb

Death is leaning more ???? than he is Scum, and Ben honestly would be Townish but he gunned for me earlier and that leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.


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Sbell hasn't done enough throughout the game for his lynch to be majorly informative
His lack of activity in comparison to how he usually plays is what makes me suspect him
I guess if he's town than MZero definitely isn't, no way both of the idlers are town
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HB I'm gonna miss you

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I feel like we don't really get anything out of a Corrik lynch either. I mean, this has been a low energy game, my own fault as much as anybody's, but it felt like Corrik threw darts and walked away even more than he usually does.

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How is death scummish

benjamin3740 posted...

HB I'm gonna miss you

Ill miss me too!
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TotallyNotMI posted...

Sbell

You might not have read up on HB

But just go look at the final votes of D1.

Do you really think all four wagons were town?

10 minutes until this becomes extremely embarrassing for MI
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Unless MI is scum, which considering how wrong hes been this game is frankly a legitimate possibility
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