Current Events > I didn't know that George Zimmermans cousin said he used to molest her...

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https://rollingout.com/2013/07/17/how-george-zimmerman-got-away-with-sexually-molesting-cousin-from-age-six-until-19/

From age 6 to 19. She actually testified during the case.

Ouch

We already know he and his supporters are garbage

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https://nyti.ms/MzTYwc - Times Article

Were we supposed to know that before today? You make it sound like this is common knowledge that you just stumbled on now.

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Solid Sonic posted...

Were we supposed to know that before today? You make it sound like this is common knowledge that you just stumbled on now.

I did just stumble on it. Wanted to share because I think others probably didn't know too. It's not talked about much

Solid Sonic posted...

Were we supposed to know that before today?

Aside from it having been brought up multiple times on this board, yes.

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looks like the bull shit about him not be racist can finally be done with

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

She actually testified during the case.

How was that relevant?
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DeadBankerDream posted...

How was that relevant?

Because she was under oath accusing him of molestation

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I vaguely remember this, but don't see how it was relevant to the trial

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WHERE ARE ALL THE ALT RIGHT CEMEN TO DEFEND ZIMZAM?

no takers???

huh

interesting
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spudger posted...

WHERE ARE ALL THE ALT RIGHT CEMEN TO DEFEND ZIMZAM?

no takers???

huh

interesting

Unfair will be here shortly with his racism

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Letron_James posted...

Because she was under oath accusing him of molestation

How was that relevant to the trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin?
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It wasn't relevant to the murder, except maybe to show poor character. It's still crazy that his own cousin testified under oath about that

I guess someone could argue that Zimmerman was creepy and had a propensity to harass and abuse minors. Trayvon himself called him creepy. And he killed, and stalked Trayvon who was a minor

DeadBankerDream posted...

How was that relevant to the trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin?

That's how trials work

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Irony posted...

That's how trials work

I don't really think it is.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

I don't really think it is.

Well you think wrong. The idea is to give evidence, motivation, and a history to convince a jury. Even cases where there were enormous amounts of evidence got dismissed because the defendant had no history of violence or motivation.

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Irony posted...

Aside from it having been brought up multiple times on this board, yes.

i actually didn't know. but i stopped clicking zimmerman threads because it's just new ways he's a piece of shit. i don't need that.

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But nobody suggested Zimmerman violently attacked Trayvon did they? As I recall the idea was that he was following him to the point of scaring Trayvon into attacking him.
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"A good guy with a gun"

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@UnfairRepresent
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we didn't know he did that. it's just one bad thing after another.
first it was the acquittal. the traffic stop. the threats to sue and now this.
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Zimmerman is a piece of shit, and the world wouldve been better off had Trayvon caved his fucking head in.

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Irony posted...

Well you think wrong. The idea is to give evidence, motivation, and a history to convince a jury. Even cases where there were enormous amounts of evidence got dismissed because the defendant had no history of violence or motivation.

This is (almost) completely false. This is what is called character evidence and it's immensely weak, it's also a double-edged sword as when you introduce character evidence you open the floodgate for the opposition to do the same. No lawyer ever uses character evidence unless they literally have nothing else and are utterly desperate. It has a terrible stigma in courts.

Think about it, you're effectively arguing:

"This man was acussed of murder, what's you evidence for the fact he did it?"

"Well someone else is claiming he did another unrelated bad thing decades before."

If Zimmerman sexually abused minors that should be it's own case where that is investigated. It has zero bearing on the Trayvon trial. This is why it wasn't part of the trial. Going " Prosecutors should have fought harder" is a non statement.

There is also no case in US history (at least modern history) where someone with overwhelming evidence of commiting a crime got "Dismissed" whatever the fuck that even means because of character evidence of people saying they are a good person. That would be madness.

"We got motivation, witnesses, blood on your clothes, knife in your bag, camera footage of you stabbing them and foresnic evidence confirming everything the police found in their invesigation."

"Yeah but here's some guys who think I 'm a good guy doe"

"Case dismissed apparently!"

Doesn't add up.

You're confusing the US Court system with a slapfight between groups of friends.

DeadBankerDream posted...

But nobody suggested Zimmerman violently attacked Trayvon did they? As I recall the idea was that he was following him to the point of scaring Trayvon into attacking him.

Which isn't what happened. Trayvon got away and got home, turned round, went after Zimmerman and assaulted him.

Falling on "Well someone else has accused of him on an unrelated crime years before." doesn't change the facts about the interaction with Trayvon.

You don't want a US trial to be

"Well sure there;s no actual evidence but these people say this guy is a child molester!"
"Oh yeah? Well these people say the other guy smokes weed and frequently starts fights!"
"Oh yeah? Well-"

That way madness lies. That's not a trial of facts about a case it's a stupid mudslinging contest on Reddit.

What you should be doing is enocouraging this girl to go to the police.
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But we sure Trust him when it comes to him killing a unarmed kid.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Which isn't what happened. Trayvon got away and got home, turned round, went after Zimmerman and assaulted him.

Falling on "Well someone else has accused of him on an unrelated crime years before." doesn't change the facts about the interaction with Trayvon.

You don't want a US trial to be

"Well sure there;s no actual evidence but these people say this guy is a child molester!"
"Oh yeah? Well these people say the other guy smokes weed and frequently starts fights!"
"Oh yeah? Well-"

That way madness lies. That's not a trial of facts about a case it's a stupid mudslinging contest on Reddit.

What you should be doing is enocouraging this girl to go to the police.

Why did you poop a novella into your bathtub? That's gross.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Why did you poop a novella into your bathtub? That's gross.

quite
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shockthemonkey posted...

Less than 30 posts and UR is already lying about Trayvon getting home... its really weird how he had to make up a brand new narrative just to argue on GameFAQs

Not a lie or a new narrative, you just never followed the case and are proud to be intentionally ignorant of basic facts because you enjoyed the story the clickbait media fed you too much

cjsdowg is exactly the same

Trayvon ran off, he got away, got home, turned around and went after Zimmerman

Actually look at the case, read the transcripts, testimonies, phone calls , even the witnesses Trayvons own council called claim this

The fact you dont enjoy this fact doesn't make it untrue. I don't like or enjoy the facts either but they are still facts. Reality doesn't care about what you want to be true. only what Is true

Also I was tagged
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haha UR still making events up about the Trayvon case, I see.

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Shablagoo posted...

haha UR still making events up about the Trayvon case, I see.

Name 1 thing I made up

and he was never seen again
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why the fuck are people in here defending zimzam?

disgusting
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Name 1 thing I made up

and he was never seen again

That you magically know where Trayvon was when he turned around based on a vague description from someone who was on the phone with him.

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Shablagoo posted...

That you magically know where Trayvon was when he turned around based on a vague description from someone who was on the phone with him.

Low blow but worth noting that referring to basic evidence and facts as "magic" is what climate change deniers do when faced with evidence as a lazy way to ignore it

Also funny that "you keep lying a out the case " bad turned into "well one of the pieces of evidence supporting it is "vague"" whatever that even means

Wasn't just the person on the phone dude, (which would be pretty ironclad evidence by itself) it was also Zimmermans account, the timing, the physical locations, the dispatcher Zimmerman was talking to, the geography of the area

Trayvon got away, that's an indisputable fact, Trayvon turned round and went after Zimmerman

to deny that is to claim Zimmermann and Trayvons friend are lying for no reason Trayvon possesses the power of invisibility and there is a conspiracy by the police to lie about random facts of the case also for no reason

theres a concept called "beyond reasonable doubt" which is very important in law and it means when something is so blatantly the case that you can't refute it without absurdity then it is accepted as true.

There's literally more evidence Trayvon got away then turned round and went after Zimmerman than there is evidence Jesus existed

TL;DR: You can't ignore evidence because you dont like it
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Name 1 thing I made up

and he was never seen again

You said that trayvon definitely without a doubt had the sole intention to murder zimmerman when the incident occurred. That is made up.

And he was never seen again
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Machete posted...

You said that trayvon definitely without a doubt had the sole intention to murder zimmerman when the incident occurred. That is made up.

no I didn't.

Anyone who claims to know the "sole intention " of another is lying

And that statement Is loaded as fuck to begin with.

What does "when the incident occured " even mean? When Trayvon left the store ? when he ran off? when he turned round? or when he attempted to murder Zimmerman? What's the incident? When is it occurring?

Funny that both you and shock accused me of lying then both lie immediately
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He fucks kids, no big deal. Seems like a real good guy

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ur makes Zimmerman threads funny because if you have him on ignore every thread like this is just 10 people laughing at an invisible man

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shockthemonkey posted...

At least we always have UR hear to defend him based on a lie he likes telling because it lets him argue more on CE.

"here are some basic facts and evidence from the police and court case expressed in the most neutral way possible "

"By not denying reality youre defending child rape and lying in ways I cant explain!"

Uhuh

have you noticed literally your only argument is to ignore the evidence ,ignore what was said and emotionally insult me?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

no I didn't.

Anyone who claims to know the "sole intention " of another is lying

And that statement Is loaded as fuck to begin with.

What does "when the incident occured " even mean? When Trayvon left the store ? when he ran off? when he turned round? or when he attempted to murder Zimmerman? What's the incident? When is it occurring?

Funny that both you and shock accused me of lying then both lie immediately

You specifically said that trayvon was going to kill him. Bitching about semantics doesn't change what you said.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Not a lie or a new narrative, you just never followed the case and are proud to be intentionally ignorant of basic facts because you enjoyed the story the clickbait media fed you too much

cjsdowg is exactly the same

Trayvon ran off, he got away, got home, turned around and went after Zimmerman

I had deleted my earlier post explaining but there's actually probably not true.

According the evidence(phone call with his friend) he never reached home. He turned around on his way walking/running home because he didn't feel comfortable being followed

The most he said on the phone call was that he was "almost there". That can mean anything including a few blocks away. His friend also told him to run and I think he said okay so it was likely within running distance and never actually reached the safety of his home.

So he was following Trayvon Martin because he wanted to molest him? What a piece of shit

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So, the people who tagged UR to do his thing are mad at him for doing EXACTLY his thing.

Alrighty then...


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Its been almost 8 years. Are we still talking about this?

Kami_no_Kami posted...

Its been almost 8 years. Are we still talking about this?

The saddest part is the people who have been talking about it for 8 years straight still are aggressively refusing to actually follow the court case or listen to the police.

They are just repeating the media claptrap they fell for 8 years ago. It's honestly facinating from a sociological perspective but also deeply disturbing.

Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...

I had deleted my earlier post explaining but there's actually probably not true.

According the evidence(phone call with his friend) he never reached home. He turned around on his way walking/running home because he didn't feel comfortable being followed

The most he said on the phone call was that he was "almost there". That can mean anything including a few blocks away. His friend also told him to run and I think he said okay so it was likely within running distance and never actually reached the safety of his home.

Again why do you do this?

You're ignoring all the other evidence. Like the map/geography of the area how close he was to his home, where he was when he attacked Zimmerman, the fact it matches Zimmerman on the phone with the dispatcher saying he lost Trayvon. (They were in "running distance") of Trayvon's home when that happened

You can't just take 1 piece of evidence on it's own, ignore the others that back it up and then dismiss the findings of that 1 with wild hypotheticals.

And hell even you're admitting Trayvon turned round to go after Zimmerman, now your argument has been reduced to "Well maybe he was nearly home before he turned around and went after Zimmerman rather than actually home!"

Which is the same thing
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