Current Events > Technology killed the human soul.

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The Internet/smartphone was the biggest mistake humanity ever made. It killed everything that made us human. Now we are glued on our phones, slaves to social media, 100% of the time we are reachable by phone. Information is transmitted in the speed of light around the globe. If this keeps on going the whole world will be without culture, being born into essentially a slave society with a small elite at the top. I give it another 50-200 years.

Answer me this honestly: Would you be able to live without Internet / Phone / Computer etc for 30 days? If you are even thinking that you might not make it the answer is no.

Ted Kaczynski had a point. I wish for a big solar eruption bigger than anything we have ever seen to destroy this satanic beast we have wrought upon ourselves.

To all the 25+ year olds, remember your childhood? Remember the stress free life you had without a smartphone? Now people as young as eight are stressing out because they always have to be up to date on their chat groups, always have to be reachable, and always respond. It's huge mental stress for children and teens.

Nobody wants to swallow this true redpill because it hurts the most out of all of them. The thought of giving up social media, not having a smartphone? No internet? In today's society? Unbelievable, incomprehensible.

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souls aren't real

Reis posted...

souls aren't real

thanks for your edgy hot take. Stop derailing every topic you enter please, you know exactly the point TC was trying to make

Suchomimus posted...

Ted Kaczynski had a point.

Hopefully the FBI reads this.
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Obviously people would survive without a smartphone or computer, they would just get bored.

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Hopefully the FBI reads this.

Not advocating actual violence. I just hate where society is at.

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Coastal_elite posted...

thanks for your edgy hot take. Stop derailing every topic you enter please, you know exactly the point TC was trying to make

shut the fuck up ROD

My kids rarely use their phones. They are usually either playing video games or with their toys.

But then from birth I banned every kid in my home from Social Media.

No YouTube/Twitter/Kik/Facebook etc.

If they discover some shit that is social media like. I ban it.

Both my kids get straight A's and win 1st place regional tournanents.

Technology is fine, the problem is the social media garbage.

Sadly my I can't bar my wife, so she is addicted and acts like a mindless idiot to it.

Though when I point it out to her, she usually cuts it off for like a year before she goes back.

When their friends come over I tell them no youtube or snap chat shat ever as well and take their phones. They have to ask me if they want to call their parents.

You'd think no one would want to spend the night because of it. But instead they act like my home is the amazing fun house full of video games, and board games, and lots of box experiments (I buy those science kits from Walmart when ever they put them on clearance and have 100s). So I always have multiple kids begging to stay here every weekend.

Heck durring summer a Kid stayed here over a month.

Reis posted...

souls aren't real

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Suchomimus posted...

Not advocating actual violence. I just hate where society is at.

And you could only express this opinion by expressing agreement with the political views (but not political actions!) of a terrorist and serial killer?
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we live in a damn society

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Hopefully the FBI reads this.

IIRC a lot of intellectuals agreed/agree with much of his manifesto. He was highly educated and had good points about technologys effect on society. Obviously the violence he perpetrated was horrible and wrong, but the manifesto (apparently; I havent read it) contains a lot of well-thought out reasoning about the dangers of technology.

Alston Chase reported in The Atlantic that the text "was greeted in 1995 by many thoughtful people as a work of genius, or at least profundity, and as quite sane".[80] Chase argued, however, that it "is the work of neither a genius nor a maniac." "Its pessimism over the direction of civilization and its rejection of the modern world are shared especially with the country's most highly educated."[80] UCLApolitical science professor James Q. Wilsonwas mentioned in the manifesto; he wrote in The New Yorker that Industrial Society and Its Future was "a carefully reasoned, artfully written paper". "If it is the work of a madman, then the writings of many political philosophers are scarcely more sane."[81]

David Skrbina, a philosophy professor at the University of Michigan and a former Green Party candidate for governor of Michigan, has written several essays in support of Kaczynski's ideas, one which is titled "A Revolutionary for Our Times".[82][83][84] Paul Kingsnorth, a former deputy-editor of The Ecologist and a co-founder of the Dark Mountain Project, wrote an essay for Orion Magazine in which he described Kaczynski's arguments as "worryingly convincing" and stated that they "may change my life".[85]

Psychiatrist Keith Ablow stated on Fox News that Kaczynski was "reprehensible for murdering and maiming people" but "precisely correct in many of his ideas", and he compared Industrial Society and Its Future to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.[86] Anarcho-primitivistauthors such as John Zerzan and John Moorecame to Kaczynski's defense while also holding reservations about his actions and ideas.[87][88]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski

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Suchomimus posted...

Remember the stress free life you had without a smartphone?

Instead of wasting my life on the internet all day, I was wasting my life on NES all day.
I don't see the difference, apart from there not being a hell of a lot of easy porn on NES.

DeadBankerDream posted...

And you could only express this opinion by expressing agreement with the political views (but not political actions!) of a terrorist and serial killer?

He's the most famous anti-tech name out there.

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BylethEisner posted...

My kids rarely use their phones. They are usually either playing video games or with their toys.

But then from birth I banned every kid in my home from Social Media.

No YouTube/Twitter/Kik/Facebook etc.

If they discover some shit that is social media like. I ban it.

Both my kids get straight A's and win 1st place regional tournanents.

Technology is fine, the problem is the social media garbage.

Sadly my I can't bar my wife, so she is addicted and acts like a mindless idiot to it.

Though when I point it out to her, she usually cuts it off for like a year before she goes back.

When their friends come over I tell them no youtube or snap chat shat ever as well and take their phones. They have to ask me if they want to call their parents.

You'd think no one would want to spend the night because of it. But instead they act like my home is the amazing fun house full of video games, and board games, and lots of box experiments (I buy those science kits from Walmart when ever they put them on clearance and have 100s). So I always have multiple kids begging to stay here every weekend.

Heck durring summer a Kid stayed here over a month.

If I had my way, ALL schools would bar Smart Phones & Smart Devices from schools until College.
High Schools would allow ONLY Dumb Phones, and ONLY be useable in between class or during lunch break. Otherwise it has to be OFF.

All Tests would require Ti level calculators, no Smart Devices of any sort are allowed during tests.

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Nah tech is fine, social media is a fucking cancer though.

My life quality went up immensely a soon as I just ignored it completely, and even more when I deleted all my accounts from it.

tldr@

the soul created both: religion; and technology

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it's going to be time to wake up on you bitches :3

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@KamenRiderBlade

If I had my way, ALL schools would bar Smart Phones & Smart Devices from schools until College.
High Schools would allow ONLY Dumb Phones, and ONLY be useable in between class or during lunch break. Otherwise it has to be OFF.

All Tests would require Ti level calculators, no Smart Devices of any sort are allowed during tests.

Other day my daughter begged me to go to a Valentine party at her school.

It was end of day and was preparing to take her home. This kid goes up to the teacher and says "Give me my phone NOW!" She is like "Is that how you ask?" Then he goes "I'm telling my parents you stole my phone!!! Give it to me NOW!" She then apologized and said it was in her desk. He then ran over and started rampaging through her stuff.

I sooo wanted to just slap the shit out of that phone out of his hand and smash it to point it was unusable.

It was disgusting and worse was how the teacher felt afraid to take his phone, because of the kids parents. This was 5th grade.

Good topic tc. Big brain shit.

Mine was literally the last generation that grew up before phones and the internet etc were everywhere. And i had a great, amazing childhood. Now everything seems all fucked up. You go in a restaurant and the parents and kids are on their phones not even talking, porn is everywhere, people are depressed. Sucks man

Yeah, nothing is really for real anymore. Everything and everyone is trivial and disposable. It's an incredibly hollow and vapid existence. We could all be laying in stasis hooked up to VR pods right now for all I care, that's how superficial and fake this reality is.

The even more fucked up thing is that everybody knows it. Even if only on a small, subconscious level. Even if you think life is great, never been better, somewhere deep down inside you know this isn't the way we were meant to be living. You know it's making you sick, but like a junkie sticking a needle into their arm, you're powerless to stop it.

What could you even do? Your choices are to play along or drop completely out of society. No work, no resources, no friends, no love. Just you and the wild blue yonder. Maybe a dog if you can manage the cost of food or take up hunting or fishing.

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Suchomimus posted...

He's the most famous anti-tech name out there.

No Amish towns nearby, huh?

BylethEisner posted...

Other day my daughter begged me to go to a Valentine party at her school.

It was end of day and was preparing to take her home. This kid goes up to the teacher and says "Give me my phone NOW!" She is like "Is that how you ask?" Then he goes "I'm telling my parents you stole my phone!!! Give it to me NOW!" She then apologized and said it was in her desk. He then ran over and started rampaging through her stuff.

I sooo wanted to just slap the shit out of that phone out of his hand and smash it to point it was unusable.

It was disgusting and worse was how the teacher felt afraid to take his phone, because of the kids parents. This was 5th grade.

My policy would be parents have to come claim the phone, kids wouldn't be allowed access to it until parents come and pick it up.

Otherwise you get behavior like that little twerp.

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I disagree.

If I wanted to right now, I can go read the works of Dostoevsky from a virtual library, go on a VR Guided Tour of wildlife in Uganda, watch a live rendition of Macbeth, or take in Tchaikovsky violin concerto in D Major...all from the comforts of my connected devices.

There's plenty of ways online to enrich oneself. Instead, we've chosen to use it for virtually shooting each other or beating off majority of the time.


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People in public talk to me all the time. If you're on your phone, it's your fault for not being available.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

People in public talk to me all the time. If you're on your phone, it's your fault for not being available.

Maybe you're more interesting then their smart phone?

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Its a double edged sword

You have unlimited/wealth of knowledge information to ask for help and solve problems and communicate with anyone from anywhere in the world.. Not to mention a major boon it has been for businesses.

Like I don't want to go back to physical encyclopedias and dictionaries. lol

But yes the addiction and less formality and how its making people socially awkward and more vain sucks too

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EnterTheTekken posted...

I disagree.

If I wanted to right now, I can go read the works of Dostoevsky from a virtual library, go on a VR Guided Tour of wildlife in Uganda, watch a live rendition of Macbeth, or take in Tchaikovsky violin concerto in D Major...all from the comforts of my connected devices.

There's plenty of ways online to enrich oneself. Instead, we've chosen to use it for virtually shooting each other or beating off majority of the time.

Yea, second paragraph is key. Whats more common, cultural enrichment online or assorted depravity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ClbkTeCyw

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Keith_Valentine posted...

Yea, second paragraph is key. Whats more common, cultural enrichment online or assorted depravity?

Arcanine2009 posted...

Its a double edged sword

You have unlimited/wealth of knowledge information to ask for help and solve problems and communicate with anyone from anywhere in the world.. Not to mention a major boon it has been for businesses.

Like I don't want to go back to physical encyclopedias and dictionaries. lol

But yes the addiction and less formality and how its making people socially awkward and more vain sucks too

This

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Hopefully the FBI reads this.

Whos the fbi?

Neil Postman knew.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Maybe you're more interesting then their smart phone?

More than half the time they initiate the convo. Tbf they're usually like 40 tho. So nevermind, that kind of kills the whole generation aspect. It's funny when people say stuff like this and also hate the idea of Pokemon Go tho. That game literally used people looking at their phones as the reason to initiate conversation with others. It literally brought back public socializing to a high that we hadn't seen in a long time.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

More than half the time they initiate the convo. Tbf they're usually like 40 tho. So nevermind, that kind of kills the whole generation aspect. It's funny when people say stuff like this and also hate the idea of Pokemon Go tho. That game literally used people looking at their phones as the reason to initiate conversation with others. It literally brought back public socializing to a high that we hadn't seen in a long time.

You know it's sad when it takes "Pokemon Go" to initialize public conversation with one another.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

You know it's sad when it takes "Pokemon Go" to initialize public conversation with one another.

It is what it is. I don't care what makes something happen, I just enjoy that it's happening

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i think most people would be significantly happier if they went "offline" more, especially in regards to information & socialization. i also understand the irony of saying this on a message board

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To all the 25+ year olds, remember your childhood? Remember the stress free life you had without a smartphone

I thank god every day that I didn't grow up in this era. I got my first phone when I was already a HS junior in like 2002. My first smartphone was like my 2nd year of college.

I mean, I'm addicted to my phone even now, but at least I had a childhood where people didn't have bright screens in their faces 24/7. Back then, it was just Game Boy/Gear.

Sometimes, I find myself "detoxing" nowadays where i would do my usual errands and leave my phone and smartwatch at home. Totally offline.

My goodness is that liberating.

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...

I thank god every day that I didn't grow up in this era. I got my first phone when I was already a HS junior in like 2002. My first smartphone was like my 2nd year of college.

I mean, I'm addicted to my phone even now, but at least I had a childhood where people didn't have bright screens in their faces 24/7. Back then, it was just Game Boy/Gear.

Sometimes, I find myself "detoxing" nowadays where i would do my usual errands and leave my phone and smartwatch at home. Totally offline.

My goodness is that liberating.

I got my first phone when I was in College, back then Cell Phones were expensive.

I had a beeper of all things when I was in HS.

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DuranOfForcena posted...

technology didn't kill everything that makes us human, it just changed the scope of what makes us human. there are probably people who have made the same exact argument TC is making for every single large leap forward in technology in human history. this is no different.

There was an ancient Greek philosopher who was against books because he believed trite and meaningless information would be preserved, confusing future generations. He thought the benefit of oral traditions was that only the most important information was preserved, so that society would always be of one mind on the fundamentals. New ideas would only survive by proving themselves through this trial of time and generational memory.

Jabodie posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ClbkTeCyw

That not with a bang but with a whimper line...was that something MGS2 came up with or did it draw it from somewhere else?

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Technology killed the human soul.

no

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revolution is gonna eventually happen
i believe some day everybody will be redefining the internet. the information is just overwhelming whats acceptable or not. everybody is heard yet dont know what to do with it all. anonymity allows them to step forward and voice their opinions. very powerful and misused responsibility. itll take time and effort these

there are steps taken already to verify users and their credibility. from here on out its just going to be fine tuning it all and introduce better ways to verify and hold users accountable.


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/R/imthirteenandthisisdeep

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The main medium through which you get your information far more than technology on the whole.

The "I dislike writing because someone can someone can write something, die and then you can't convince them otherwise and have them un-write it." bit is the gist of the idea, yeah. Your brain can get hooked on social media's bad habit of throwing a stream of things at you with no space in-between to evaluate what you've taken in through how it keeps you doing just a little to interact with it.

I always end up using the word shallow a lot on this topic and it kinda bugs me I rarely see it used. It's the hip cool thing to be.

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I agree with TC.

IMO, smart phones are creating dumb people. Just one example of today, a lady almost walked directly into me because she was on her phone. I'm 6'2" and 208 pounds, you can't miss me.

One of the best video's I've seen about phones and what they can do to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IW3y3x6o_g

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s0nicfan posted...

That's dumb and a false equivalency. Those boomers are commuting on a train. Of course they are going to be doing something with themselves in the meantime, Meanwhile young people today will be glued on their phone while eating at a restaurant with each other or doing practically any activity.

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MACisBack posted...

I agree with TC.

IMO, smart phones are creating dumb people. Just one example of today, a lady almost walked directly into me because she was on her phone. I'm 6'2" and 208 pounds, you can't miss me.

One of the best video's I've seen about phones and what they can do to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IW3y3x6o_g

I concur with that video's message.

Too many people addicted to social media and "Personalized Content" / Data Harvesting is VERY bad for us as a society.

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Suchomimus posted...

That's dumb and a false equivalency. Those boomers are commuting on a train. Of course they are going to be doing something with themselves in the meantime, Meanwhile young people today will be glued on their phone while eating at a restaurant with each other or doing practically any activity.