Current Events > "Three Latino teenagers were briefly detained, fingerprinted and photograph

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ed for allegedly walking on the wrong side of the street.

https://wamu.org/story/20/02/28/pedestrian-safety-or-racial-profiling-police-stop-in-montgomery-county-spurs-complaint

Walking on the wrong side of the street?

What???

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What is the wrong side of the street?

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BlingBling22947 posted...

What is the wrong side of the street?

The one with young men who aren't white, given that this is the south.

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BlingBling22947 posted...

What is the wrong side of the street?

Your own link dude

Maryland law makes it unlawful to walk on a street or road when theres a sidewalk available. Ortiz and Regan point out theres no sidewalk along Blueridge Avenue. In that case, the law says a pedestrian has to walk on the left side, so they are facing traffic.

Were getting pedestrians that are getting struck by cars. Weve had seven incidents this year that are fatal or near-fatal. We are trying to educate drivers and pedestrians to watch out for each other, he says.
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BlingBling22947 posted...

What is the wrong side of the street?

the side with the most pigment walking on it.

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Seems..........excessive to say the least.

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"we're concerned about your safety...so we'll detain and fingerprint you to save you from yourself"....Just issue a citation and move on.

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detain them at the location to talk to them, thats all that is needed.
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Its crazy to me how people overreact to common police stuff. Its not a baseless stop, as stupid as it sounds, its a traffic crime so still a crime no matter how silly. Which means probable cause.

What they did is a field interview, which is completed in almost every stop. Usually we take pictures and ask general questions. This is a pretty good thing. Yesterday, we had a neighborhood local guy in a really
bad part of town, rob a dollar store twice with a gun. He threw an elderly female employee to the ground and ran and hid in a house. Somebody on the same street said thats Shorty. Using that system we looked up monikers shorty and found his picture, info, and address. We pulled him out of his house 20 minutes later. Arrested for robbery twice with a deadly weapon.

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And here come the bootlickers

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Your own link dude

Maryland law makes it unlawful to walk on a street or road when theres a sidewalk available. Ortiz and Regan point out theres no sidewalk along Blueridge Avenue. In that case, the law says a pedestrian has to walk on the left side, so they are facing traffic.

Were getting pedestrians that are getting struck by cars. Weve had seven incidents this year that are fatal or near-fatal. We are trying to educate drivers and pedestrians to watch out for each other, he says.

I knew this but didn't know it was like . . . law.

At least not law enough for someone to even have the opportunity to over react.

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Im sure they were very respectful to the police
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I get the practicalities there, but I have never heard of it being against the law.

Sometimes it is feasible to really do unless you J walk, which is is against the law in places where people care.

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darkprince45 posted...

Its crazy to me how people overreact to common police stuff. Its not a baseless stop, as stupid as it sounds, its a traffic crime so still a crime no matter how silly. Which means probable cause.

What they did is a field interview, which is completed in almost every stop. Usually we take pictures and ask general questions. This is a pretty good thing. Yesterday, we had a neighborhood local guy in a really
bad part of town, rob a dollar store twice with a gun. He threw an elderly female employee to the ground and ran and hid in a house. Somebody on the same street said thats Shorty. Using that system we looked up monikers shorty and found his picture, info, and address. We pulled him out of his house 20 minutes later. Arrested for robbery twice with a deadly weapon.

using a violent crime scenario to justify stopping a group of brown kids for walking in the street, something residents say is a literal everyday occurrence by residents in that neighborhood. You're a cop, right?


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I thought that was common sense but that's still a bit excessive

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E32005 posted...

detain them at the location to talk to them, thats all that is needed.

This guy more than qualified to be their police vhief it seems

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darkprince45 posted...

Its crazy to me how people overreact to common police stuff. Its not a baseless stop, as stupid as it sounds, its a traffic crime so still a crime no matter how silly. Which means probable cause.

What they did is a field interview, which is completed in almost every stop. Usually we take pictures and ask general questions. This is a pretty good thing. Yesterday, we had a neighborhood local guy in a really
bad part of town, rob a dollar store twice with a gun. He threw an elderly female employee to the ground and ran and hid in a house. Somebody on the same street said thats Shorty. Using that system we looked up monikers shorty and found his picture, info, and address. We pulled him out of his house 20 minutes later. Arrested for robbery twice with a deadly weapon.

What is Discretion?

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darkprince45 posted...

Its crazy to me how people overreact to common police stuff. Its not a baseless stop, as stupid as it sounds, its a traffic crime so still a crime no matter how silly. Which means probable cause.

What they did is a field interview, which is completed in almost every stop. Usually we take pictures and ask general questions. This is a pretty good thing. Yesterday, we had a neighborhood local guy in a really
bad part of town, rob a dollar store twice with a gun. He threw an elderly female employee to the ground and ran and hid in a house. Somebody on the same street said thats Shorty. Using that system we looked up monikers shorty and found his picture, info, and address. We pulled him out of his house 20 minutes later. Arrested for robbery twice with a deadly weapon.

What in the "Tied an Onion to My Belt" kind of fucking non sequitur is this?

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darkprince45 posted...

Its crazy to me how people overreact to common police stuff. Its not a baseless stop, as stupid as it sounds, its a traffic crime so still a crime no matter how silly. Which means probable cause.

What they did is a field interview, which is completed in almost every stop. Usually we take pictures and ask general questions. This is a pretty good thing. Yesterday, we had a neighborhood local guy in a really
bad part of town, rob a dollar store twice with a gun. He threw an elderly female employee to the ground and ran and hid in a house. Somebody on the same street said thats Shorty. Using that system we looked up monikers shorty and found his picture, info, and address. We pulled him out of his house 20 minutes later. Arrested for robbery twice with a deadly weapon.

How does a violent crime compare to jaywalking?

Fair it was a warning. Theyre lucky theyve gotten that. Ive heard from white people that gotten tickets for jwalking and also people who ride bicycles across a crosswalk (while riding a bike you lose pedestrian status so you must dismount and walk across the crosswalk)

KobeSystem posted...

This guy more than qualified to be their police vhief it seems

who are you?
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Ruvan22 posted...

How does a violent crime compare to jaywalking?

Did you even read? The point Im making is conducting a field interview like those cops did, identified a suspect months later

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darkprince45 posted...

Did you even read? The point Im making is conducting a field interview like those cops did, identified a suspect months later

But what does that have to do with giving them a pedestrian ticket?
And in your story, there was a specific name (Shorty) - here there wasn't anything close to it, just "brown people"

Ruvan22 posted...

But what does that have to do with giving them a pedestrian ticket?
And in your story, there was a specific name (Shorty) - here there wasn't anything close to it, just "brown people"

did you even read the OP? They got a warning, which is not the focus of the post. Its this

1. Three Latino teenagers were briefly detained, fingerprinted and photographed

I was explaining what they did was a field interview and its purpose. Now Ive said it twice lol


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I waited 5 and a half hours at a DPS office today to renew my license, which was essentially getting fingerprinted and having my picture taken by a government official.

I would have much rather an office done it in a fraction of the time

Two different things and databases. Completely unrelated

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darkprince45 posted...

Two different things and databases. Completely unrelated

I know, I'm just saying. That wait was fucking brutal. Had my phone died I would have just stood up and killed myself in front of everyone

it says it's against the law to walk in the road if there's a sidewalk, but if the pic shown is of the scene of the "crime", there is clearly no sidewalk

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_RETS_ posted...

I know, I'm just saying. That wait was fucking brutal. Had my phone died I would have just stood up and killed myself in front of everyone

Oh I see

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racist cops racial profiling
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Reading the article, the fingerprints done on the mobile device arent stored in a database and are only used to check against existing fingerprints when other ID isnt available. Them being teens, it is likely they didnt have any other ID.

And getting fingerprinted, even for committing such a minor crime, is not a big deal, especially if it isnt stored. It's to ID, check against any possible warrants (not saying in the case of the teens, just generally) etc. And so far there is no proof of any pictures being taken other than a single guy saying so. And we are relying on him not seeing any other people cited on his single street as evidence that they arent cited anywhere in his city at any point.

This could have happened to 3 white teens walking the wrong way on the street and no one would have heard about it.

As silly as laws like that may seem, 7 serious cases of pedestrian injury/death resulting from getting hit by a car in the last couple months definitely warrant cracking down more, even on the minor stuff.

If they were issued a ticket, sure, fire up the diesel-powered outrage machine. But they weren't. This is a literal non story

definitely unusual by the policemen.

i saw a legal website (run by attorneys) just yesterday refer to taking fingerprints as "basic pedigree information."

https://www.johnbuzalaw.com/criminal-defense/arrest-process/

but most people are more sane than this lawyer.

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