Current Events > Is there a difference between underage porn and child porn?

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
Crepes
03/03/20 6:17:32 PM
#51:


I always find it really suspect when people feel they need to point out all the different xxxxphiles for different age types. Like why are they trying to defend child rapists and paedophiles? Some sort of hidden agenda?

---
Praxis Makes Perfect
The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:19:51 PM
#52:


Reis posted...
"I'm not defending what he did, I'm just looking for any excuse to not cut ties with him"

shut the fuck up and take your L
Dude. Fuck outta here.

What he did was wrong, no contesting it.

Despite that, I wanted know if the legal term gave any indication of the age. You don't like that and that's fine. There's the fucking door.


---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus
03/03/20 6:23:01 PM
#53:


Dyinglegacy posted...
Does the terminology I gave in the op give any indication?

"Underage / child porn" aren't legal charges in the same sense that you don't go to jail for killing someone, you go to jail for murder or manslaughter.

If you look at his actual charges (which are public record) it should tell you the ages (usually a range like 13-17, or something more vague like toddlers).

---
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:25:21 PM
#54:


Crepes posted...
I always find it really suspect when people feel they need to point out all the different xxxxphiles for different age types. Like why are they trying to defend child rapists and paedophiles? Some sort of hidden agenda?

Oh, definitely without question. Just not this topic.


---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:26:31 PM
#55:


Tyranthraxus posted...
"Underage / child porn" aren't legal charges in the same sense that you don't go to jail for killing someone, you go to jail for murder or manslaughter.

If you look at his actual charges (which are public record) it should tell you the ages (usually a range like 13-17, or something more vague like toddlers).

I looked it up and didn't notice anything but "minor"

I'll look again

---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
garan
03/03/20 6:29:20 PM
#56:


First of all, if you're a parent, you have to prioritize your kids over a friend. I can understand wanting to support someone who's had some hard times, but I would never let someone like that around my little girl, no matter the circumstances.

That said, I do think the laws need to be updated because right now, there are high schoolers being busted for child porn when they sext each other. That's a huge difference from the type of horrific predators that abuse small children.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:29:26 PM
#57:


Crono99 posted...
Here's what the Criminal Code of Canada says:

You might be tempted to think that this means there is no difference between a 17 year old an a 10 year old for example. The offense has been committed in either case.

But the thing is, sentencing guidelines give a wide range of possibilities to the judge. For example, for posession the sentencing goes from 6 months to 2 years or from 1 year to 10 years depending on the prosecution method. You can bet that the age of whoever is involved will play heavily on the judge's decision to convict the offender to one year or to ten years.

Thanks for this, but... canada.

I'm literally a legal newb.

I could probably get arrested for something that wasn't illegal and I wouldn't know the difference lol

---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
SableWolfAngel
03/03/20 6:31:18 PM
#58:


You guys are so quick to jump to demonize TC for sticking by his friend despite his sordid past. So judgy.

Anyway, I don't think there's a legal distinction between a minor that's 7 and a minor that's 17, though I think there are legal distinctions depending on the act and the age difference. Like, obviously you're gonna get in trouble for trying to lay your hands on a child, but someone 20 might not get in trouble for being intimate with a 17 year old due to age of consent laws and the small difference in age. Like, maybe they were together in high school, just not in the same class. And I personally think it's stupid for people to get so upset about someone who's attracted to a 17 year old. Is something gonna change when they turn 18? Not really. They're not gonna wake up on the morning of their 18th birthday in a suit, write a resum, know how to do their taxes, buy a home, and start a business career. They're gonna be the same nervous, immature, inexperienced teenager, possibly into their early twenties if they're not challenged or motivated enough to grow up. It's an arbitrary line drawn in the sand, and sand is fluid and ever changing. I'm not saying go after a 14 year old, but I am saying someone 16 or 17 is basically an adult in physiology, if nothing else. They occupy this weird space where they're interested in adult activities, like working, driving, drinking, smoking, sex, and personal agency in general yet are treated, both legally and socially, like children with no minds or opinions of their own. Maybe if we introduced more adult responsibilities to teens more early on, they'd mature faster and not be so pathetic as 25 year olds with no future plans mooching off their parents indefinitely. I mean, what 17 year olds do you people know that aren't interested in owning their own car or getting into a relationship or having sex or setting their own rules? They're not little kids, not at all. They may not have the maturity and responsibilities of adults, lack of experience, but they're not babes who follow all the rules and hold mommy's hand and play with toys. You're all blinded by what society has told you is wrong and terrible just because "that's the way things are". Think for yourselves and form your own opinions, don't just listen to what some old men in robes say.

Rant over. Hope you liked it, TC!

---
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:31:18 PM
#59:


garan posted...
First of all, if you're a parent, you have to prioritize your kids over a friend. I can understand wanting to support someone who's had some hard times, but I would never let someone like that around my little girl, no matter the circumstances.

That said, I do think the laws need to be updated because right now, there are high schoolers being busted for child porn when they sext each other. That's a huge difference from the type of horrific predators that abuse small children.
Definitely WOULD NOT, I repeat, WOULD NOT let him around my kids. I don't even go around him. I have him added on psn we play the division 2

---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1
03/03/20 6:31:24 PM
#60:


This topic won't last long. Even just talking about underage porn is moddable.

---
XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez
The Topic Killer \_0_/
... Copied to Clipboard!
#61
Post #61 was unavailable or deleted.
I Like Toast
03/03/20 6:33:07 PM
#62:


So the only user who gave a serious reply to this topic was someone already tagged as a pedo.

What a shock.

---
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:41:23 PM
#63:


I Like Toast posted...
So the only user who gave a serious reply to this topic was someone already tagged as a pedo.

What a shock.
There was actually a few answers on legality, which were all appreciated.

I'm tempted to just close the topic if I can get a second without people responding. It's like 3 minutes or something?

On the other hand I just wanna say nah, Fuck it.

---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
The Wheelman1
03/03/20 6:42:45 PM
#64:


Child porn is beyond terrible because the grown adult is taking advantage of a small child. Children cannot consent to sex because they are not physically or mentally developed enough for it. Also there is a possibility of the child getting pregnant

---
XBox Live GT: MastaMez PSN: KoolMez
The Topic Killer \_0_/
... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy
03/03/20 6:44:16 PM
#65:


The Wheelman1 posted...
Child porn is beyond terrible because the grown adult is taking advantage of a small child. Children cannot consent to sex because they are not physically or mentally developed enough for it.
Agreed

---
Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.
Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 124697 losses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2