Current Events > 'Not the Biden I knew' (aneurysms, gaffes, Bernie) 'I dont think Im a stutterer

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Notti
03/08/20 3:00:43 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentWelder/status/1236417071833022467

@BrentWelder
I worked to elect @JoeBiden in 2008. There was no childhood stutter back then. This is not the same Joe. twitter.com/fawfulfan/stat

Brent Welder - Fighting for the rights of American working families. Organizer. Injury attorney & labor lawyer. Husband. Father. #Progressive. Ran for U.S. House in #KS03.
https://brentwelder.com


https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentWelder/status/1236504600783568897
https://i.imgur.com/zeHqX8Y.jpg

Biden says he doesn't think he stutters
https://twitter.com/BerniesBack2020/status/1236425800213200897

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
Brain surgeries

In 1988, Biden suffered two brain aneurysms, one on the right side and the other on the left side of his brain. Each required high risk brain surgery with risks of long term impact to brain functionality. In February 1988, after suffering from several episodes of increasingly severe neck pain, Biden was taken by long-distance ambulance to Walter Reed Army Medical Center and given lifesaving surgery to correct an intracranial berry aneurysm that had begun leaking;[95][96] the situation was serious enough that a priest had administered last rites at the hospital.[97] While recuperating, he suffered a pulmonary embolism, which represented a major complication.[96]

Another operation to repair a second aneurysm, which had caused no symptoms but was also at risk from bursting, was performed in May 1988.[96][98] The hospitalization and recovery kept Biden from his duties in the Senate for seven months.[52] Biden has had no recurrences or effects from the aneurysms since then.[96]

In retrospect, Biden's family came to believe the early end to his presidential campaign had been a blessing in disguise, for had he still been campaigning in the midst of the primaries in early 1988, he might well have not stopped to seek medical attention and the condition might have become unsurvivable.[99] [100] In 2013, Biden said "they take a saw and they cut your head off and they literally had to take the top of my head off." He also said he was told he would have less than a 50 percent chance of fully recovering.[101]


Biden 2020 vs even Biden 2018
https://mobile.twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1236105651941711872

Bernie has been doing many rallies and interviews. Biden? He's being hidden away.

Here is some extra on Biden

1) Biden on Obama "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy"
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1895156_1894977_1644536,00.html

2) Biden on black senator... senators? (embarassing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBpBHGXqepY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzXg2JASFfU

3) Biden on cutting social security multiple times:
"When I argued that we should freeze federal spending, I meant Social Security as well; I meant Medicare and Medicaid; I meant veterans' benefits; I meant every single, solitary thing in the government."
https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1124438095225655296
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/13/biden-cuts-social-security/

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/status/1169622838434775040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuZ0grOzwIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waDEI7uE2kw

https://mobile.twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1236452586716303363

And, Biden on Bernie Sanders in 2016.

If Bernie didn't call himself a democratic socialist, No one would call him a democratic socialist. No one questions Bernie's authenticity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li4PG7nmlyM

https://twitter.com/BerniesBack2020/status/1236691820433809408

^ The Bidens: No one's standard of living will change. Swallow it.
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DarthAragorn
03/08/20 3:03:55 PM
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Still would vote for him over Bernie
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Doom_Art
03/08/20 3:04:31 PM
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I love Bernie a ton but christ a lot of his supporters are fucking embarrassing

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Colorahdo
03/08/20 3:06:42 PM
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Old man has medical problems

More news at 10

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MaxEffingBemis
03/08/20 3:08:07 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Still would vote for him over Bernie
Arent you a Trump supporter anyway? Your opinion does not matter if so

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DarthAragorn
03/08/20 3:08:41 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
DarthAragorn posted...
Still would vote for him over Bernie
Arent you a Trump supporter anyway? Your opinion does not matter if so

No?
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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 3:09:10 PM
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Dems not seriously evaluating Biden's mental health is not going to do them any favors in the general. Dunno why so many moderates are so fucking dense.
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KillerSlaw
03/08/20 3:15:02 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Dems not seriously evaluating Biden's mental health is not going to do them any favors in the general. Dunno why so many moderates are so fucking dense.

The people that want Trump out at all costs have honestly convinced themselves that Trump has dementia worse than Biden at this point.

TDS is aapparently a real thing, and it's causing people that want him out at all costs to lose their ability to critically think it seems.

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MaxEffingBemis
03/08/20 3:17:17 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
No?
My mistake, Im confusing you with someone else

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COVxy
03/08/20 3:28:41 PM
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I haven't seen topics like this since 2016 about Hillary. What a coincidence!

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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:30:56 PM
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COVxy posted...
I haven't seen topics like this since 2016 about Hillary. What a coincidence!
sincerely can't figure out what point you're making here; please explain?
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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 3:31:45 PM
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COVxy posted...
I haven't seen topics like this since 2016 about Hillary. What a coincidence!


Truly a "close but no potato" moment lmao
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COVxy
03/08/20 3:32:05 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
sincerely can't figure out what point you're making here; please explain?

That Bernie losing a primary leads to a very particular brand of negative campaigning, from both the left and the right.

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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:34:05 PM
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lmfao ok so you're just another gaslighter. thx for letting me know. ignore list expands.
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Vicious_Dios
03/08/20 3:35:05 PM
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The imploding left, everyone.

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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:36:29 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
The imploding left, everyone.
What left?
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Zero_Destroyer
03/08/20 3:37:00 PM
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Biden stuttered and misspoke a lot. I genuinely believe he has an impediment. But you can see he keeps track of things in '08 or '12. He'll misspeak and misname but immediately smile and correct himself and continue like the gaffe didn't happen, and do it with enough confidence that nobody really cares/notices.

It's so much worse now. He has difficulty correcting himself and it often turns into him standing there attempting to course correct his sentence for like 10 seconds.

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FL81
03/08/20 3:45:03 PM
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All the frontrunning candidates were all old since even before most of us were born

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Doom_Art
03/08/20 3:50:09 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
why's this your reaction to this topic?
Any concern towards Bernie's health was dismissed and handwaved but Biden runs his mouth and the people type up an essay about it

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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:52:24 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Any concern towards Bernie's health was dismissed and handwaved but Biden runs his mouth and the people type up an essay about it
it's almost like Bernie's health issues and Biden's health issues are massively different and thus warrant different responses!

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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 3:54:27 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
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Any concern towards Bernie's health was dismissed and handwaved but Biden runs his mouth and the people type up an essay about it


This is a dumb observation tbh
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FursonaNonGrata
03/08/20 3:55:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Any concern towards Bernie's health was dismissed and handwaved but Biden runs his mouth and the people type up an essay about it

It's weird how hard you've started going against Bernie. Didn't you receive a fuck ton of super affordable healthcare in Canada?

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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:55:47 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Yeah hes only had one debate where he was coherent for the entire thing, but were supposed to ignore that because... uhhhh...
stop you're being mean
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Notti
03/08/20 3:56:52 PM
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All I'm doing is putting evidence in front of people that I feel is relevant when looking around. Is it too much into 1 topic? Maybe. But I figure it all corroborates the other points, self supporting.

Anyway. People who care about 2020 will pick through it.

shockthemonkey posted...
Dammit TC why cant you just plug your ears and cover your eyes and ignore this stuff? Theres no way this will come into play during the general election or during a presidency!


Trump will certainly ignore th... OH FUCK, Trump is already pounding on it.

I want to save the Democratic chances for 2020, we are not past the point of no return yet.
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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:58:03 PM
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Shame there couldn't be a debate tonight instead of next Sunday.
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Omnislasher
03/08/20 3:58:33 PM
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although I heard the DNC has switched it to a town hall? anyone know about this?
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COVxy
03/08/20 4:00:56 PM
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Let's not pretend like trying to diagnose people based on airtime is not fucking stupid and dangerous. Same reason there was a large outcry when people started trying to do so with Trump. Diagnosis is hard enough professionally. And here we have hundreds of unqualified people projecting their political biases with the facade of concern about mental health. Meanwhile these conversations throw us back a couple of decades when it comes to appropriate response.

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Doom_Art
03/08/20 4:03:07 PM
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Notti posted...
Trump will certainly ignore th... OH FUCK, Trump is already pounding on it.
Who cares though?

COVxy posted...
Let's not pretend like trying to diagnose people based on airtime is not fucking stupid and dangerous
My main issue

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JuanCarlos1
03/08/20 4:03:33 PM
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Omg...neither him or Bernie, Trump, Warren should be running for president at that age! Same for most in congress, senators. No old people please!!!! This is how you grow a swamp. Having the same people hold power for 40 years!

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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 4:12:08 PM
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Maybe his doctors should do some cognitive tests on him before writing him a "generally good" bill of health.
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COVxy
03/08/20 4:14:06 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Maybe his doctors should do some cognitive tests on him before writing him a "generally good" bill of health.

"Cognitive tests" here are typically silly to discuss anyway. The MoCA won't pick up any issues with anyone able to be on the debate stage in any fashion. I don't doubt at all that Trump got a 30/30 on it.

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Anteaterking
03/08/20 4:20:48 PM
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COVxy posted...
Let's not pretend like trying to diagnose people based on airtime is not f***ing stupid and dangerous. Same reason there was a large outcry when people started trying to do so with Trump. Diagnosis is hard enough professionally. And here we have hundreds of unqualified people projecting their political biases with the facade of concern about mental health. Meanwhile these conversations throw us back a couple of decades when it comes to appropriate response.

The problem is that we're never going to actually have an actual conversation about the mental state of any of the candidates (as evidenced by Trump), so "don't speculate and diagnose" just serves more as "ignore their mental health".

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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 4:25:01 PM
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COVxy posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Maybe his doctors should do some cognitive tests on him before writing him a "generally good" bill of health.

"Cognitive tests" here are typically silly to discuss anyway. The MoCA won't pick up any issues with anyone able to be on the debate stage in any fashion. I don't doubt at all that Trump got a 30/30 on it.


This is nonsense lmao
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COVxy
03/08/20 4:25:25 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
The problem is that we're never going to actually have an actual conversation about the mental state of any of the candidates (as evidenced by Trump), so "don't speculate and diagnose" just serves more as "ignore their mental health".

Naw, I think there's a serious conversation to be had about age and average cognitive and brain health that will happen by the next election, given this cycles heavily aged candidates. But this conversation is different than "my political opponent clearly has dementia/psychopathy/whatever else".

A conversation about a particular person's mental status is very different than a conversation of ensuring that in general we have candidates that are well. One is dangerous, the other is necessary.

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COVxy
03/08/20 4:26:12 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
This is nonsense lmao

I've actually administered the MoCA before. Do you even know what it consists of?

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Smashingpmkns
03/08/20 4:28:37 PM
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COVxy posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
This is nonsense lmao

I've actually administered the MoCA before. Do you even know what it consists of?


Is that why you said 20/20 before googling it?
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Smackems
03/08/20 4:30:10 PM
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KillerSlaw posted...
The people that want Trump out at all costs have honestly convinced themselves that Trump has dementia worse than Biden at this point.

TDS is aapparently a real thing, and it's causing people that want him out at all costs to lose their ability to critically think it seems.
Careful the mods don't like that syndrome thing lol

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COVxy
03/08/20 4:30:27 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Is that why you said 20/20 before googling it?

Got me, i misremembered the actual amount of distributed points from a single page assessment that I gave out 6 years ago for a project that didn't lead anywhere. Must be that I'm lying.

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ThePrinceFish
03/08/20 4:31:34 PM
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COVxy posted...
Got me, i misremembered the actual amount of distributed points from a single page assessment that I gave out 6 years ago for a project that didn't lead anywhere. Must be that I'm lying.
Maybe don't wave your dick around if it was such a minor thing for you then. "I've actually given it... have you?!"

Embarrassing.

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