Board 8 > Simpsons Mafia Topic 4 What Springfield is this?!?!

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Death claimed scum last game. DYL hasn't.

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Fastbreak posted...

Hmmmm. Nah. If you're not paying attention I wont be helping you out here

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Fastbreak posted...

The longer its talked about the more it needs to be resolved

Votes elsewhere?

Lmao

Twisting my words and deflecting at the same time

Crescent-Moon posted...

And that I'm completely reversing everything I said about Corrik when I was upset last night. His behavior could not be more opposite of his behavior towards the Death lynch last game. He was a virtual non factor on the lynch, but he was calling people scummy for NOT wanting the day to end early last game. This game has doing his best to drag it out. He has not at any point said DYL is town. He has only dismissed any and all reasoning he might be scum without saying he isn't. His focus is on pulling out whatever claims he can wrench out of people. I don't think he is trying to find scum, I think he is trying to find town power.

So do you believe that Corrik is scum alongside me?

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turbopuns3 posted...

Twisting my words and deflecting at the same time

How is that twisting your words?

Those were your words

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Corrik7 posted...

Death claimed scum last game. DYL hasn't.

You have actively sabotaged the lynch by repeatedly dismissing any of the actual in game argument of it but have never once spoken to his alignment. It's an artificial attempt to create distance while you distract town and stall it out for more information.


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Okay, I guess that answers that.


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Dark Young Link posted...

So do you believe that Corrik is scum alongside me?

I think his actions today are much easier to see coming from a scum perspective than a town perspective no matter what you flip, honestly.

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Dark Young Link posted...

Okay, I guess that answers that.

The argument is completely irrespective of your alignment though. Corrik is intentionally handicapping the lynch and running around trying to get claims. Corrik is not hunting for scum.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

You have actively sabotaged the lynch by repeatedly dismissing any of the actual in game argument of it but have never once spoken to his alignment. It's an artificial attempt to create distance while you distract town and stall it out for more information.

Damn. I must be scum.

Actually I feel like DYL is the pre-determined lunch already, but I feel bad bc doesn't really get to play and am trying to let him enjoy himself some. I do feel he wouldn't be lynched today on his play though. But, hey, whatevs.

So, which scum role do you think I am to clearly link myself to a clear scum going to be lynched today? Something weak eh? Maybe I am extra kill just getting my shot off before I don't care anymore. I am basically Ulti then? Right? Surely I lack the deviousness as scum right?

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Fastbreak posted...

How is that twisting your words?

Those were your words

Survey says....nope

I was saying the more people focus on DYL the less they pay attention to anything else so hey let's all take a step back and re-examine

It's hard to trust your perspective, given your perspective of me and the reasoning behind it.

Admittedly it could be Scum Corrik defending almost certainly doomed town so he can say "I told you so", but it can just as easily be Town Corrik. I'm not so confident as to hard lean toward either of those day 1.


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Dark Young Link posted...

It's hard to trust your perspective, given your perspective of me and the reasoning behind it.

Admittedly it could be Scum Corrik defending almost certainly doomed town so he can say "I told you so", but it can just as easily be Town Corrik. I'm not so confident as to hard lean toward either of those day 1.

What is the town motivation for running around asking for claims without actually doing anything?

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Corrik already got the cop to claim.
Has been stealing another players role.

He's doing a pretty good job for scum. Why can't he be on the team?

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Dark Young Link posted...

It's hard to trust your perspective, given your perspective of me and the reasoning behind it.

Admittedly it could be Scum Corrik defending almost certainly doomed town so he can say "I told you so", but it can just as easily be Town Corrik. I'm not so confident as to hard lean toward either of those day 1.

The joys of being me. If someone flips town, I am scum! If they flip scum, I am scum! Lol.

I mean, the list of ppl who are going to say they didn't think dyl was scum for what he did in game is gonna be long if he flips town. And ofc those same people will be championing their in game deduction reasoning if he flips scum.

It's every game. *Shrug*

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Obellisk posted...

Corrik already got the cop to claim.
Has been stealing another players role.

He's doing a pretty good job for scum. Why can't he be on the team?

Thank you for summing my thoughts up neatly.

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And why am I getting the nice treatment from Corrik and not that damn you to hell treatment?

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Crescent-Moon posted...

What is the town motivation for running around asking for claims without actually doing anything?

You play games with 1 scum, eh?

Who remembers me telling Chris to have fun and Lynch Han instead of Puns after Puns literally rolled over as scum.

I was...

This is a shocker...

TOWN!

And I was right the other person was...

Hold your breath.

This is a shocker.

RIGHT!

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Obellisk posted...

And why am I getting the nice treatment from Corrik and not that damn you to hell treatment?

<33333

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Crescent-Moon posted...

The argument is completely irrespective of your alignment though. Corrik is intentionally handicapping the lynch and running around trying to get claims. Corrik is not hunting for scum.

I hardly see how this lynch is being hampered. I feel like several people, yourself included, have already decided who you were going to lynch the first 20 hours in.

With the "Let's just end day early" that you and other players have been throwing around, can you call that a scumhunting mentality? At the very least it seems like you have a second suspect, but I can't help but think you'll be in the background once I flip town.

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Corrik7 posted...

The joys of being me. If someone flips town, I am scum! If they flip scum, I am scum! Lol.

I mean, the list of ppl who are going to say they didn't think dyl was scum for what he did in game is gonna be long if he flips town. And ofc those same people will be championing their in game deduction reasoning if he flips scum.

It's every game. *Shrug*

DYL's alignment does not matter to the argument. The way you've sabotaged the lynch and done nothing but run around causing claims does.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

What is the town motivation for running around asking for claims without actually doing anything?

Also this is a contradiction in a single sentence.

Asking for claims.

Not doing anything.

Pick one.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

DYL's alignment does not matter to the argument. The way you've sabotaged the lynch and done nothing but run around causing claims does.

Uh, if he is town then why would town not want to sabotage the lynch?

Like, hello? Of course his alignment matters.

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Dark Young Link posted...

I hardly see how this lynch is being hampered. I feel like several people, yourself included, have already decided who you were going to lynch the first 20 hours in.

With the "Let's just end day early" that you and other players have been throwing around, can you call that a scumhunting mentality? At the very least it seems like you have a second suspect, but I can't help but think you'll be in the background once I flip town.

Corrik has on multiple occasions dismissed any valid reason for lynching you to pin it all onto me. This to me is actively fighting your lynch but not actually trying to stop it.

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Can someone recap the Maggies timeline for me?

Corrik came out and claimed Maggie early on, SBell questioned him about it a few times, but got ignored? Then eventually full countered? Is that accurate and am I missing anything?

Let me put it to you this way.

If day 1 ended super early, you'd have nothing on Corrik. Absolutely nothing. Zlich. Nada.

Now? Now Corrik has so kindly provided plenty of stuff to look back on. Plenty of reactions. Plenty of things to notice in hindsight. Town or scum, that is a benefit towards town.

True, outing the alleged cop is a negative, but mafia isn't about perfection.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Can someone recap the Maggies timeline for me?

Corrik came out and claimed Maggie early on, SBell questioned him about it a few times, but got ignored? Then eventually full countered? Is that accurate and am I missing anything?

Accurate, yes.

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Also HB could have totally avoided being forced to out if he played more town like but there's no used crying over spilled milk!

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Corrik7 posted...

Also this is a contradiction in a single sentence.

Asking for claims.

Not doing anything.

Pick one.

Not hunting for scum, so my cordage changed.

Corrik7 posted...

Uh, if he is town then why would town not want to sabotage the lynch?

Like, hello? Of course his alignment matters.

You're not saying you think he's town and you're not saying you think he's scum. You're just fighting the lynch anyway.

The behavior itself is inherently scummy.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik has on multiple occasions dismissed any valid reason for lynching you to pin it all onto me. This to me is actively fighting your lynch but not actually trying to stop it.

Show me the post where this happened please?

I don't recall Corrik doing that.

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HB could have claimed anything. Or refused to claim. What did I do. Kick him in the shin repeatedly until he confessed? Lol.


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Dark Young Link posted...

Show me the post where this happened please?

I don't recall Corrik doing that.

It's called last night when I left the game because he wouldn't shut up about it and I ran off.

I am not digging this up for you.

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Corrik what made you decide to claim Maggie in the first place?

Crescent-Moon posted...

Not hunting for scum, so my cordage changed.

You're not saying you think he's town and you're not saying you think he's scum. You're just fighting the lynch anyway.

The behavior itself is inherently scummy.

I am saying he doesn't appear scummy in the game, but he is getting lynched regardless. I am not gonna fixate my entire day on someone getting lynched no matter what if I don't know they are scum. Cuz if he flips town and we wasted literally every single fucking second of the day on a set mislynch then it is literally the most pointless day in mafia history. Like, I would rather have listened to blade post "meow" all day then watch people high five and circle kiss over lynching someone who is town.

Like, is he town? Maybe not. I don't have all the information some have regarding it. All I have is what I see in the topic and that DYL was lazy and half assing it early in the game, but nothing seemed outright scummy. DYL has been lazy and half assed many a game.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Corrik what made you decide to claim Maggie in the first place?

I think I was drunk at a bar. I don't remember.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

It's called last night when I left the game because he wouldn't shut up about it and I ran off.

I read last night, I still don't see where Corrik was "dismissing logical arguments".

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Corrik7 posted...

I am saying he doesn't appear scummy in the game, but he is getting lynched regardless. I am not gonna fixate my entire day on someone getting lynched no matter what if I don't know they are scum. Cuz if he flips town and we wasted literally every single fucking second of the day on a set mislynch then it is literally the most pointless day in mafia history. Like, I would rather have listened to blade post "meow" all day then watch people high five and circle kiss over lynching someone who is town.

Like, is he town? Maybe not. I don't have all the information some have regarding it. All I have is what I see in the topic and that DYL was lazy and half assing it early in the game, but nothing seemed outright scummy. DYL has been lazy and half assed many a game.

Who do you think is scum?

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Dark Young Link posted...

I read last night, I still don't see where Corrik was "dismissing logical arguments".

Corrik made it sound like I was the only reason anyone was lynching you, which is patently false.

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Like, I don't know how me arguing DYL is the Lynch no matter what today and making people understand why definitively is me sabotaging the Lynch. Sorry we did other things than what you wanted today also, Crescent. I'll run it by ya next time.

I literally laid it out definitively why he is the Lynch. Yeah, to be honest, if he is town you all should fear the loving hell out of me because I was able to assess he didn't seem scummy in game. And that's a hard read to make through the smoke involved here. It would be almost omniprescent like I am scum. If anything, him flipping town would make me look more scummy than if he flipped scum. But, again, I would be misread for just being correct.

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Corrik7 posted...

Like, I don't know how me arguing DYL is the Lynch no matter what today and making people understand why definitively is me sabotaging the Lynch. Sorry we did other things than what you wanted today also, Crescent. I'll run it by ya next time.

I literally laid it out definitively why he is the Lynch. Yeah, to be honest, if he is town you all should fear the loving hell out of me because I was able to assess he didn't seem scummy in game. And that's a hard read to make through the smoke involved here. It would be almost omniprescent like I am scum. If anything, him flipping town would make me look more scummy than if he flipped scum. But, again, I would be misread for just being correct.

I think its more scummy that you're calling for claims but giving virtually zero indication of who you actually think is scum and why. You're basically just playing darts with the player list.

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Like I am at a loss that you are literally mad because we did other things today besides just lynch someone you have information we don't have on what like 47 hours early or some shit?

And, then by doing more than just what you want, I am doing nothing also.

That isn't a logical argument there.

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Mad at you no.. We all know things get really ugly when I get mad.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

I think its more scummy that you're calling for claims but giving virtually zero indication of who you actually think is scum and why. You're basically just playing darts with the player list.

I always ask for claims. It is on the player themself for what they will do with it. And I can assess what they do with it. I haven't even voted a single person I asked for a claim from.

And one of the people was the one you wanted to Lynch! Lol.

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Corrik7 posted...

Like I am at a loss that you are literally mad because we did other things today besides just lynch someone you have information we don't have on what like 47 hours early or some shit?

And, then by doing more than just what you want, I am doing nothing also.

That isn't a logical argument there.

The logical argument is you're forcing clams, but not scumhunting.

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It's not like I threatened to GAMBLE a DAYVIG on someone if they didn't claim! I mean, come on now!


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Crescent-Moon posted...

The logical argument is you're forcing clams, but not scumhunting.

I'll force clams whenever I want to. They are fucking delicious.

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I will say that I like that Crescent is finally lively.

Perhaps it sets the tone for day 2?

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Corrik7 posted...

I'll force clams whenever I want to. They are fucking delicious.

What good did you accomplish by forcing my claim?

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Dark Young Link posted...

I will say that I like that Crescent is finally lively.

Perhaps it sets the tone for day 2?

If you are town, town is gonna be super demoralized day 2. Especially so if they had early hammered. Cuz they would have had zero information to go along with it.

BTW: I am gonna make a projection. HB is town. Heard it here first.

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