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ZannoL 03/10/20 4:04:55 PM #1:	Eternals will feature an openly gay superhero who is a married family man. WandaVision will bring us Scarlet Witchs son, Wiccan, who is the boyfriend of Hulkling. Upcoming Thor movie will feature Valkyrie, who will be looking for her queen. And now New Mutants will feature a romance between two lesbian superheroes: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/03/new-mutants-gay-love-story-maisie-williams-1202216660/ Boy things have changed. This all would have been impossible 15 years ago. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935492707] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Eternals will feature an openly gay superhero who is a married family man. WandaVision will bring us Scarlet Witchs son, Wiccan, who is the boyfriend of Hulkling. Upcoming Thor movie will feature Valkyrie, who will be looking for her queen. And now New Mutants will feature a romance between two lesbian superheroes: https://www.indiewire.com/2020/03/new-mutants-gay-love-story-maisie-williams-1202216660/ Boy things have changed. This all would have been impossible 15 years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 03/10/20 4:05:56 PM #2:	I would watch ten movies about Tessa Thompson looking for her queen --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:935492753] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>I would watch ten movies about Tessa Thompson looking for her queen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 4:06:25 PM #3:	Blue_Inigo posted... I would watch ten movies about Tessa Thompson looking for her queen Tessa Thomson is a fine actress. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935492774] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>I would watch ten movies about Tessa Thompson looking for her queen</quote>Tessa Thomson is a fine actress. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/10/20 4:07:12 PM #4:	None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing <cite>Zikten posted [p:935492808] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 4:07:53 PM #5:	Zikten posted... None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing One day we will get there. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935492845] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing</quote>One day we will get there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 03/10/20 4:07:59 PM #6:	ZannoL posted... And now New Mutants will feature a romance between two lesbian superheroes: Deadpool 2 already did that tho --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:935492853] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>ZannoL posted... </cite> <quote>And now New Mutants will feature a romance between two lesbian superheroes:</quote>Deadpool 2 already did that tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EricDraven59 03/10/20 4:08:52 PM #7:	Sad!!! <cite>EricDraven59 posted [p:935492883] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Sad!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 4:09:19 PM #8:	Garioshi posted... Deadpool 2 already did that tho They werent at the forefront though. In New Mutants the love story between the two characters will be huge. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935492901] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Garioshi posted... </cite> <quote>Deadpool 2 already did that tho</quote>They werent at the forefront though. In New Mutants the love story between the two characters will be huge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 03/10/20 4:19:08 PM #9:	Zikten posted... None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing Why make stupid ass posts like this --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:935493335] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing</quote>Why make stupid ass posts like this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evol 03/10/20 4:20:34 PM #10:	I hope they don't cut the beautiful make out scene in Eternals. If they do I won't watch. <cite>Evol posted [p:935493393] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>I hope they don't cut the beautiful make out scene in Eternals. If they do I won't watch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 03/10/20 4:23:41 PM #11:	ZannoL posted... One day we will get there. Not as long as people feel the need to announce it via press release. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:935493516] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>ZannoL posted... </cite> <quote>One day we will get there.</quote>Not as long as people feel the need to announce it via press release. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 03/10/20 4:25:17 PM #12:	i'm not a frequent Marvel comic reader but either way, i'm perfectly fine with this. i don't see why we can't have more gay or bi super-heroes. as long as they're properly written ofc... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:935493586] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>i'm not a frequent Marvel comic reader but either way, i'm perfectly fine with this. i don't see why we can't have more gay or bi super-heroes. as long as they're properly written ofc... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/10/20 4:44:47 PM #13:	Zikten posted... They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. They freaking should. Man do you know how many romance-in-disguise turds I could have avoided? --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:935494477] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out.</quote>They freaking should. Man do you know how many romance-in-disguise turds I could have avoided? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiggy101011 03/10/20 4:57:14 PM #14:	Zikten posted... None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing Except for the part where they do. Natalie Portman in Thor. Hayley Atwell (Peggy) in Captain America. Chris Pine in Wonder Woman. Even Scarjo and Mark Ruffalo was talked about in the media prior to Ultrons release. Hetero love interests and relationships are brought up all the time in comic book movies. It's the norm so it doesnt stand out as much. Hell I haven't even gone into the CW verse and the cast of actors that have been introduced prior to the start of a season as the "love interest" for the protagonist. --- Gamertag: F1RE v2 PSN ID: F1REx Man got me a 9 and she sexy <cite>Jiggy101011 posted [p:935494988] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing</quote> Except for the part where they do. Natalie Portman in Thor. Hayley Atwell (Peggy) in Captain America. Chris Pine in Wonder Woman. Even Scarjo and Mark Ruffalo was talked about in the media prior to Ultrons release. Hetero love interests and relationships are brought up all the time in comic book movies. It's the norm so it doesnt stand out as much. Hell I haven't even gone into the CW verse and the cast of actors that have been introduced prior to the start of a season as the "love interest" for the protagonist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 03/10/20 4:58:57 PM #15:	To the people complaining that this is making headlines: the only reason it's making headlines is because it's uncommon for gay characters to be leading characters in blockbuster movies. So far companies like Disney have not yet made any major movies that star an openly gay character. When it becomes commonplace, people will naturally stop writing articles about it (since it won't be anything new) and you can then stop whining and act like a normal person. --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935495055] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>To the people complaining that this is making headlines: the only reason it's making headlines is because it's uncommon for gay characters to be leading characters in blockbuster movies. So far companies like Disney have not yet made any major movies that star an openly gay character. When it becomes commonplace, people will naturally stop writing articles about it (since it won't be anything new) and you can then stop whining and act like a normal person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FakeHoax 03/10/20 5:02:22 PM #16:	Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda? --- Hi <cite>FakeHoax posted [p:935495206] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 03/10/20 5:04:25 PM #17:	Zikten posted... None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing Agreed. The scene they had in Endgame was good; and it wasn't hyped up or anything - it was natural. Advertising characters as gay or non-straight is not natural and turns people away. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:935495289] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing</quote>Agreed. The scene they had in Endgame was good; and it wasn't hyped up or anything - it was natural. Advertising characters as gay or non-straight is not natural and turns people away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 03/10/20 5:04:27 PM #18:	FakeHoax posted... Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda? I'm gay and I exist. I guess I shouldn't place myself in anybody else's life since that would be forcing an agenda onto them --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935495293] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>FakeHoax posted... </cite> <quote>Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda?</quote>I'm gay and I exist. I guess I shouldn't place myself in anybody else's life since that would be forcing an agenda onto them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/10/20 5:06:40 PM #19:	Hasn't New Mutants been finished for like 5 years now lol --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:935495390] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Hasn't New Mutants been finished for like 5 years now lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/10/20 5:07:14 PM #20:	Smashingpmkns posted... Hasn't New Mutants been finished for like 5 years now lol they keep reshooting it and editing it I think. it's been in production hell <cite>Zikten posted [p:935495417] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Hasn't New Mutants been finished for like 5 years now lol</quote>they keep reshooting it and editing it I think. it's been in production hell </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 03/10/20 5:08:56 PM #21:	A gay superhero!? How stunningly brave and bold of Marvel! --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:935495483] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>A gay superhero!? How stunningly brave and bold of Marvel! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 5:19:36 PM #22:	FakeHoax posted... Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda? And the dumb and ignorant post of the day award goes to this guy lol <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935495942] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>FakeHoax posted... </cite> <quote>Remember when movies were for entertainment and not an agenda?</quote>And the dumb and ignorant post of the day award goes to this guy lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0 03/10/20 5:25:44 PM #23:	Wetterdew posted... I'm gay and I exist. I guess I shouldn't place myself in anybody else's life since that would be forcing an agenda onto them Gay people existed in movies before the year 2000. --- "Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN <cite>Bass_X0 posted [p:935496222] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>I'm gay and I exist. I guess I shouldn't place myself in anybody else's life since that would be forcing an agenda onto them</quote> Gay people existed in movies before the year 2000. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 03/10/20 5:26:36 PM #24:	Bass_X0 posted... Gay people existed in movies before the year 2000. Yes, as stereotypes and in the background. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:935496263] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Bass_X0 posted... </cite> <quote>Gay people existed in movies before the year 2000.</quote>Yes, as stereotypes and in the background. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaverickXeo 03/10/20 6:18:52 PM #26:	Blue_Inigo posted... Yes, as stereotypes and in the background. There are plenty of characters that COULD BE gay but aren't shown as such. It is more common to see a straight person in media (probably because there are more straight people in the world overall), but just because a person does not openly state they are gay or straight does not mean they are or are not either. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:935498726] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, as stereotypes and in the background.</quote> There are plenty of characters that COULD BE gay but aren't shown as such. It is more common to see a straight person in media (probably because there are more straight people in the world overall), but just because a person does not openly state they are gay or straight does not mean they are or are not either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 03/10/20 6:21:40 PM #27:	MaverickXeo posted... There are plenty of characters that COULD BE gay but aren't shown as such. It is more common to see a straight person in media (probably because there are more straight people in the world overall), but just because a person does not openly state they are gay or straight does not mean they are or are not either. invisible media representation = no media representation --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935498845] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>MaverickXeo posted... </cite> <quote>There are plenty of characters that COULD BE gay but aren't shown as such. It is more common to see a straight person in media (probably because there are more straight people in the world overall), but just because a person does not openly state they are gay or straight does not mean they are or are not either.</quote>invisible media representation = no media representation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 6:42:23 PM #28:	Wetterdew posted... To the people complaining that this is making headlines: the only reason it's making headlines is because it's uncommon for gay characters to be leading characters in blockbuster movies. So far companies like Disney have not yet made any major movies that star an openly gay character. When it becomes commonplace, people will naturally stop writing articles about it (since it won't be anything new) and you can then stop whining and act like a normal person. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935499674] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>To the people complaining that this is making headlines: the only reason it's making headlines is because it's uncommon for gay characters to be leading characters in blockbuster movies. So far companies like Disney have not yet made any major movies that star an openly gay character. When it becomes commonplace, people will naturally stop writing articles about it (since it won't be anything new) and you can then stop whining and act like a normal person.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 03/10/20 8:13:08 PM #29:	Wetterdew posted... invisible media representation = no media representation Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:935503726] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>invisible media representation = no media representation</quote> Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 03/10/20 8:52:46 PM #30:	MaverickXeo posted... Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly. Characters like Barney from HIMYM are super common in media. Nobody literally shouts "Look how gay/straight I am" but you see player types of dudes in media all the time. You dont even necessarily have to be that type of character to flaunt your sexuality. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:935505393] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>MaverickXeo posted... </cite> <quote>Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly.</quote>Characters like Barney from HIMYM are super common in media. Nobody literally shouts "Look how gay/straight I am" but you see player types of dudes in media all the time. You dont even necessarily have to be that type of character to flaunt your sexuality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 03/10/20 8:57:45 PM #31:	As a fan of The New Mutants comics I find the idea of a Wolfsbane and Mirage romance to be somewhat annoying but does it really matter to me? No. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:935505637] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>As a fan of The New Mutants comics I find the idea of a Wolfsbane and Mirage romance to be somewhat annoying but does it really matter to me? No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vigorm0rtis 03/10/20 8:59:24 PM #32:	Marvel had gay characters in the '80s. I don't care. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 <cite>vigorm0rtis posted [p:935505723] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Marvel had gay characters in the '80s. I don't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 03/10/20 9:07:06 PM #33:	Seems like they are going overboard now honestly to make up for it or something. Not every new Marvel movie or tv show needs to have a gay character for things to be equal or whatever. Gay people do only make up 5% of the population after all. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:935506029] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Seems like they are going overboard now honestly to make up for it or something. Not every new Marvel movie or tv show needs to have a gay character for things to be equal or whatever. Gay people do only make up 5% of the population after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/10/20 9:36:05 PM #34:	Blue_Inigo posted... Characters like Barney from HIMYM are super common in media. Nobody literally shouts "Look how gay/straight I am" but you see player types of dudes in media all the time. You dont even necessarily have to be that type of character to flaunt your sexuality. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935507318] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Blue_Inigo posted... </cite> <quote>Characters like Barney from HIMYM are super common in media. Nobody literally shouts "Look how gay/straight I am" but you see player types of dudes in media all the time. You dont even necessarily have to be that type of character to flaunt your sexuality.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 03/10/20 9:38:08 PM #35:	I already don't give a fuck about Marvel, so I already know I won't be watching any of those films. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:935507412] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>I already don't give a fuck about Marvel, so I already know I won't be watching any of those films. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wetterdew 03/10/20 10:40:37 PM #37:	MaverickXeo posted... Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly. Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate. --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935510376] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>MaverickXeo posted... </cite> <quote>Do gay (or straight) people in public often flaunt their sexuality? I am straight, but I don't go around saying I am straight. There are those who are big on PDA, but most people don't really show their relationships openly.</quote>Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 03/10/20 10:50:33 PM #38:	Nice. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:935510835] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 03/10/20 11:19:29 PM #39:	Rahne and Dani Moonstar? Are they even gay in the books? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:935512006] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Rahne and Dani Moonstar? Are they even gay in the books? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 03/10/20 11:25:22 PM #40:	If not now, they will be in two weeks from now. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:935512210] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>If not now, they will be in two weeks from now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 03/10/20 11:28:58 PM #41:	I'd knock the sudden, seemingly overbearing approach. Buuuuuut... Disney has long held off on LGBTQ characters. This is the first real sign that homophobia no longer has power. Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay. So, yeah. I'm all for this. This is true progress. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:935512339] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>I'd knock the sudden, seemingly overbearing approach. Buuuuuut... Disney has long held off on LGBTQ characters. This is the first real sign that homophobia no longer has power. Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay. So, yeah. I'm all for this. This is true progress. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZannoL 03/11/20 12:45:18 AM #42:	Wetterdew posted... Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate. You have the best posts. Always full of insight. <cite>ZannoL posted [p:935514992] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate.</quote>You have the best posts. Always full of insight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 03/11/20 1:26:38 AM #43:	Wetterdew posted... Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate. Those statements are JUST as common for same sex partners. In every day conversation though, it is rare for someone to learn of a sexual partner. I don't tell the store clerks about my partners - much like we should not always know a person's orientation over a 2.5 hour movie. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:935516089] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>Straight people don't realize how often they disclose their sexuality in casual conversation. A straight guy says "I'll just have my girlfriend pick me up" nobody gives a second thought Any time I'm saying something like that to someone new I pause first to decide whether they're gonna react weirdly, because I KNOW in their head they're gonna be thinking about how I just revealed I'm not straight. If you're in a relationship, yes it's very quickly gonna come up in casual conversation unless you specifically go out of your way to obfuscate.</quote> Those statements are JUST as common for same sex partners. In every day conversation though, it is rare for someone to learn of a sexual partner. I don't tell the store clerks about my partners - much like we should not always know a person's orientation over a 2.5 hour movie. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 03/11/20 1:44:41 AM #44:	Skye Reynolds posted... Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay. I haven't seen Frozen 2 yet, are there actually hints that she might be gay? After seeing the first movie I assumed that she had some pretty serious PTSD kind of issues going on that would keep her from letting herself get close to anybody that way. Like, how can you be Elsa and not consider that you might actually kill your partner if you lose control for a moment? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:935516537] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted... </cite> <quote>Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay.</quote>I haven't seen Frozen 2 yet, are there actually hints that she might be gay? After seeing the first movie I assumed that she had some pretty serious PTSD kind of issues going on that would keep her from letting herself get close to anybody that way. Like, how can you be Elsa and not consider that you might actually kill your partner if you lose control for a moment? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 03/11/20 1:52:30 AM #45:	Skye Reynolds posted... I'd knock the sudden, seemingly overbearing approach. Buuuuuut... Disney has long held off on LGBTQ characters. This is the first real sign that homophobia no longer has power. Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay. So, yeah. I'm all for this. This is true progress. Does Elsa need to have a relationship? Just because a character exists does not mean they need to be defined by their sexuality. It's kinda like Mile Morales. When people think of him; what do they think of first? "The Black Spider Man" mostly. When people think of T'Challa, people think of the actual character and not just "the Black version of x" or for some cases "the gay version of x." It is better to draw audiences toward actual character building aside from intimacy. It can be a small detail (as it should be), but by making it a defining character trait it is hurting the population more than not. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:935516714] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted... </cite> <quote>I'd knock the sudden, seemingly overbearing approach. Buuuuuut... Disney has long held off on LGBTQ characters. This is the first real sign that homophobia no longer has power. Who knows? Maybe Frozen 3 will finally canonize Elsa as gay. So, yeah. I'm all for this. This is true progress.</quote> Does Elsa need to have a relationship? Just because a character exists does not mean they need to be defined by their sexuality. It's kinda like Mile Morales. When people think of him; what do they think of first? "The Black Spider Man" mostly. When people think of T'Challa, people think of the actual character and not just "the Black version of x" or for some cases "the gay version of x." It is better to draw audiences toward actual character building aside from intimacy. It can be a small detail (as it should be), but by making it a defining character trait it is hurting the population more than not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 03/11/20 3:11:42 AM #46:	MaverickXeo posted... Those statements are JUST as common for same sex partners. In every day conversation though, it is rare for someone to learn of a sexual partner. I don't tell the store clerks about my partners - much like we should not always know a person's orientation over a 2.5 hour movie. Dude It's way more common than you realize. Only this evening, two straight people I'd never met before brought their partners up somehow into unrelated conversations, plus at least five-ish people I spoke to on the phone while at work today. You spend 2 hours in a movie about a character and there's a good chance the existence of their relationship is gonna come up. Love and relationships are a huge part of our lives. It's silly to act like that's far-fetched. MaverickXeo posted... Does Elsa need to have a relationship? Just because a character exists does not mean they need to be defined by their sexuality. The reason people speculated about Elsa is mainly because her story in Frozen closely parallels the experience many gay people have. And just because a character happens to be in a relationship doesn't mean that character is defined just by their sexuality. Nobody ever wastes breath complaining that Iron Man is defined by his sexuality just because he's straight. Some characters ARE basically nothing more than their sexuality (straight characters in particular--so many straight characters in movies are there just to exist as a bland nondescript partner for the main character). Sometimes it's not even a bad thing for a character to be mostly defined by their sexuality, because some people IRL really are like that. But then whenever a character is openly gay in mainstream media...people get weird about it --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935518360] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>MaverickXeo posted... </cite> <quote>Those statements are JUST as common for same sex partners. In every day conversation though, it is rare for someone to learn of a sexual partner. I don't tell the store clerks about my partners - much like we should not always know a person's orientation over a 2.5 hour movie.</quote>Dude It's way more common than you realize. Only this evening, two straight people I'd never met before brought their partners up somehow into unrelated conversations, plus at least five-ish people I spoke to on the phone while at work today. You spend 2 hours in a movie about a character and there's a good chance the existence of their relationship is gonna come up. Love and relationships are a huge part of our lives. It's silly to act like that's far-fetched. MaverickXeo posted... </cite> <quote>Does Elsa need to have a relationship? Just because a character exists does not mean they need to be defined by their sexuality.</quote>The reason people speculated about Elsa is mainly because her story in Frozen closely parallels the experience many gay people have. And just because a character happens to be in a relationship doesn't mean that character is defined just by their sexuality. Nobody ever wastes breath complaining that Iron Man is defined by his sexuality just because he's straight. Some characters ARE basically nothing more than their sexuality (straight characters in particular--so many straight characters in movies are there just to exist as a bland nondescript partner for the main character). Sometimes it's not even a bad thing for a character to be mostly defined by their sexuality, because some people IRL really are like that. But then whenever a character is openly gay in mainstream media...people get weird about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 03/11/20 3:13:30 AM #47:	Wetterdew posted... The reason people speculated about Elsa is mainly because her story in Frozen closely parallels the experience many gay people have. ...being afraid that they'll kill anybody they get close to with their uncontrollable super powers? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:935518393] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>The reason people speculated about Elsa is mainly because her story in Frozen closely parallels the experience many gay people have.</quote>...being afraid that they'll kill anybody they get close to with their uncontrollable super powers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 03/11/20 3:17:28 AM #48:	Zikten posted... None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing I mean it's pretty fucking normal for actors to make movies yet there's announcements and actors making movies all the fucking time. Like, how is "Robert Pattinson is Batman" news? If it is news, why is it, something that literally happens every day, more important than something that literally didn't exist in major Blockbusters for most of last decade and prior? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:935518468] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>None of that should have to be announced as news. It should just be considered normal. They dont announce hetero relationships before a movie comes out. People need to get over gay people existing</quote> I mean it's pretty fucking normal for actors to make movies yet there's announcements and actors making movies all the fucking time. Like, how is "Robert Pattinson is Batman" news? If it is news, why is it, something that literally happens every day, more important than something that literally didn't exist in major Blockbusters for most of last decade and prior? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 03/11/20 3:21:42 AM #49:	Tenlaar posted... ...being afraid that they'll kill anybody they get close to with their uncontrollable super powers? lol I mean we have been accused of being the cause of natural disasters like Katrina or the Haiti earthquake in 2010 But it's more about how she was taught to conceal something about herself from everybody even though it is tearing her up inside and ruining her relationships with loved ones. She is outed in front of everybody, flees in shame and fear, and eventually realizes it was something to celebrate, not to hide or fear. It resonated with a lot of people, not just the gays, which is why Elsa is such a popular character. --- rip to all the animals killed in wildfires. <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:935518534] in Marvel goe... [t:78463343]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>...being afraid that they'll kill anybody they get close to with their uncontrollable super powers?</quote>lol I mean we have been accused of being the cause of natural disasters like Katrina or the Haiti earthquake in 2010 But it's more about how she was taught to conceal something about herself from everybody even though it is tearing her up inside and ruining her relationships with loved ones. She is outed in front of everybody, flees in shame and fear, and eventually realizes it was something to celebrate, not to hide or fear. It resonated with a lot of people, not just the gays, which is why Elsa is such a popular character. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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