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vigorm0rtis
03/12/20 2:26:10 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
It makes more sense than those things actually happening though

As a rule, religious texts are 3 parts sparkle 1 part sauce.

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teepan95
03/12/20 2:29:10 AM
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Smackems posted...
Interesting stuff tc. You know your shit

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Returning_CEmen
03/12/20 3:35:35 AM
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DevsBro posted...
10. There's a whole book of the Bible (Ecclesiastes) dedicated to the idea that life often doesn't make sense, bad things happen to good people and vice-verse, you'll have a really hard time making sense of it or accomplishing anything and the solution is pretty much Hakunah Matata. And it's written by Solomon, the same guy who wrote Proverbs. Which has pretty much the exact opposite message.
I thought Ecclesiastes is explaining that life without God is meaninglessness. The book being musings of if God was out of the picture.
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radical rhino
03/12/20 3:50:37 AM
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Anyone watch The Bible miniseries on history channel? Its good shit.

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DevsBro
03/12/20 8:07:14 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
I thought Ecclesiastes is explaining that life without God is meaninglessness. The book being musings of if God was out of the picture.
It's a little confusing since most major translations use the word "meaningless" as a translation for "hebel", a concept that doesn't translate easily and concisely.

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1892.htm

The image is of vapor or smoke, and the connotation is fleeting, hard/impossible to grasp, absurdity, etc. Solomon even includes God's blessings in what is hebel:

Ecc 2:24-26
A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, 25 for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? 26 To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

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DevsBro
03/12/20 8:27:24 AM
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11. Israel (aka Jacob) had twelve sons, but they don't directly correspond to the tribes of Israel and they definitely don't correspond to the allotments of land in the Holy land. Simeon and Levi were stricken from the inheritance of land because they killed an entire town as mentioned earlier. The Levites would be scattered among the other tribes' land, while the Simeonites would settle within Judah. Meanwhile, Joseph's share was split between his sons Ephraim and Manasseh. Because these were grandsons of Israel and not sons (and perhaps because there were exactly two), they are referred to as half-tribes, as in "the half-tribe of Manasseh". Manasseh actually received two plots of land, presumably to bring the total back up to twelve.

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DevsBro
03/13/20 9:53:05 AM
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12. The only direct references to the concept of an antichrist are in 1 John and 2 John (none in Revelation unless it's obscured by symbolic imagery), and it is not a single person, but all people who deny the Father and the Son. In fact, it's even used in the plural:

1 John 2:18
Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.

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DevsBro
03/13/20 5:54:42 PM
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13. When Moses asked for God's name, he replied with a rather complex statement that we normally translate as "I am." In the original text, it was reflexive and intensive, and was more like saying "I, myself, and only I, am, was and will be." He chose to identify himself by his existence, in particular the fact that his existence is what makes him unique among gods of the era. The third person form (sort of the equivalent of "he is") is the word Yahweh, and is used in the original text anywhere most translations say "LORD" (often with smaller caps). Over time, traditions arose inspired by reverence to the LORD's name (after all, one of the Ten Commandments deals with using it appropriately), that lead people to swap it out for "Adonai", the Hebrew word for "lord" (in lower case). Eventually, they sort of hybridized the two into "Yahowa" (I might have misspelled that), which eventually became the word "Jehovah" we still use today.

Interestingly, when the Pharisees finally point-blank asked Jesus if he was the son of God, in order to trap him with charges of blasphemy or else lose all his followers, Jesus responds with "I am." He was pointing out that he was not just a man who was begotten by God, but he was himself God.

In our modern world, we get this confused because we equate God and the Father, when in reality, God is composed of three parts--the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

It's interesting too that Jesus made a habit of picking fights with the Pharisees in this way, knowing fully that they were planning to get him killed. In fact, he was counting on it because this would be how he would save us from our sins.

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TheTestAccount
03/13/20 6:40:42 PM
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Great topic
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Total_Lost2
03/13/20 6:51:25 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd
03/13/20 6:56:32 PM
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radical rhino posted...
Anyone watch The Bible miniseries on history channel? Its good shit.

I like the The Lost Books of the Bible stuff.

Or how some things were edited or left out.

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DevsBro
03/15/20 1:48:28 AM
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14. It was David who first proposed the idea of building a Temple for the LORD, but God would not let him. It was Solomon, David's son, who would build the Temple. But, interestingly, Solomon would then build his own palace and make it much larger. What an ego!

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ehhwhatever
03/15/20 1:50:50 AM
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I don't think Paul was too impressed by Noah.

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EverDownward
03/15/20 1:58:38 AM
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Came into this topic ready to dismiss it since CE is almost always its...'CE self' when it comes to Christianity. But this seems, at the very least, respectful.

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Accolon
03/15/20 1:58:57 AM
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I came in here expecting a "lol religion " topic, but instead found some really interesting facts.

Bravo sir

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TheTestAccount
03/15/20 4:54:42 AM
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Accolon posted...
I came in here expecting a "lol religion " topic, but instead found some really interesting facts.

Bravo sir
Same

More factoids TC
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DevsBro
03/16/20 9:21:29 PM
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15. The number of the beast, 666, was not meant to be enigmatic. Nor could it have been written at the time as the concatenation of three sixes. It was the number six hundred sixty-six specifically, and it refers to Nero, who today is believed in this context to be a representative of the concept of government.

At the time, you could add up the letters in a word and get a number, and this was commonly done for public officials and other prominent personalities, in similar vein to referring to the current president by the number of his presidency. If you do this with Nero, you end up with six hundred sixty-six.

Noteworthy, too, is the specific mention that the number of the beast would be required to be placed specifically on the wrist or the forehead, which is definitely an allusion to Deuteronomy 6:4-8:

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a] 5 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

The message is really pretty clear: that the government would one day demand that we replace God's laws with their own.

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TheTestAccount
03/17/20 2:40:41 AM
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Bumping so I can save info in this topic later
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DevsBro
03/17/20 1:57:05 PM
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16. David had a group of warriors who were elites. At least two of them had kill counts over 100 for a single battle, with the highest being 800. One was Uriah the Hittite, who David murdered. They were known as the thirty, but oddly enough, there were 37 of them.

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TheTestAccount
03/18/20 12:45:17 AM
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You a preacher? How do you know all this
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SauI_Goodman
03/18/20 12:50:30 AM
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i just saw gringo. "why is it that peter denied jesus 3 times and judas only did it once and peter's the fucking saint?" lol

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DevsBro
03/18/20 8:02:40 AM
#73:


TheTestAccount posted...
You a preacher? How do you know all this
Mostly from reading the Bible. I'm on my third time through right now.

Also, I learned a little from sermons and Sunday School stuff but those are generally about the very broad idea of the story and applications.

A third source was the Bible Project. I'm not convinced of everything I've heard in their stuff but I've never found any of it to definitely be untrue.

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DevsBro
03/18/20 8:24:09 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
i just saw gringo. "why is it that peter denied jesus 3 times and judas only did it once and peter's the fucking saint?" lol
Good question. Actually, we don't know what happened to Judas after he died. In fact, he shows a repentant heart afterward, and the scripture specifically states that Satan took over his body for the betrayal itself, though they do also mention that he was planning it before then. In fact, there's very little mention in the Bible of specific people and whether they went to heaven or hell. It's brought up a handful of times but for the most part we're just told that they die.

Meanwhile, this was more or less the only noteworthy thing he did, while Peter clearly had a heart for the Lord--though sometimes it came out the wrong way. After his triple denial, he realized exactly what he had just done and went away and "wept bitterly." Then Jesus later came to him (John 21) and, interestingly, asks him three times if he loves him. The passage is famous for the "two words for love" sermon you'll hear if you spend any time in a church, but I think also Jesus wad giving him three chances to redeem himself for his three denials.

This reminds me.

17. We remember that Jesus chastised Peter for having little faith after walking on water and beginning to sink, but we forget that he was the only one to even get out of the boat. So why did Jesus give him a hard time? My guess is it's in accordance with Proverbs 9:7-9:
Whoever corrects a mocker invites insults; whoever rebukes the wicked incurs abuse. Do not rebuke a mocker or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you. Instruct the wise and they will grow wiser still; teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.

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