Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 283: I Don't Take Responsibility At All

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Sometimes the actual quotes are better than any satire
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Would have preferred march madness

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Would have preferred march madness

I was gonna use WHO Let the Dogs Out as a reference to an overused joke in B8 Discord about the WHO releasing their dogs being tested for Coronavirus, but then in researching the facts I saw that the Daily Caller already used the joke

And fuck them
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Are the Democrats going to take responsibility for their vexatious witch hunt?

If there was actual vexing involved then witches are verified
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are you suggesting that witches are real?


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witches are definitely real

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Peace___Frog posted...

witches are definitely real

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1238626501555298308

Thank god

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(Unfortunately it will probably not become law until next week because Mitch thought that taking a recess now was acceptable)

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https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1238366592154710016?s=21

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tweet of the year

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what

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i understand what he's saying.
but it did take a second watch to get it.

https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1238622271498907648

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Wanglicious posted...

i understand what he's saying.
but it did take a second watch to get it.

https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/1238622271498907648

Boi

https://twitter.com/tedjamesryan/status/1238629940842483712?s=21

Lyin Biden

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Can't wait until Sunday~

Fuck this Windex tastes horrible

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that's because you were drinking mountain dew instead!

windex should taste like the name says, "win."
are you win'ing, son?


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I'm willing to chalk that one up as "old man getting confused" over outright lying, since based on a Humane Society scorecard, he has co-sponsored several bills relating to animal protection.

Which is... a little better but not a ton?

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He might have been talking about this
https://www.congress.gov/bill/100th-congress/senate-bill/675

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A preemptive "go fuck yourself" to Rand Paul:

https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1238694540254629888

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https://twitter.com/jasonleopold/status/1238676023098486785?s=21

Man he REALLY doesnt want to get tested
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Honestly if they wanted to test him daily, I wouldn't be mad.

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I dont know why they dont just lie and say he did and hes fine
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Like, the idea that if youre asymptomatic, you arent spreading it is BLATANTLY false, right?
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Jakyl25 posted...

I dont know why they dont just lie and say he did and hes fine

If you're talking about what's in that memo then that'd be an ethics violation. In fact, it'd violate the Navy's Code of Ethics in about half a dozen ways.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Like, the idea that if youre asymptomatic, you arent spreading it is BLATANTLY false, right?

From what I've read you typically start being contagious ~2 days before being symptomatic (and I'd think you're likely less contagious before showing symptoms because you're not coughing and shit). So you won't be contagious immediately upon being infected, but yeah there's definitely asymptomatic spread.

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As someone who has played 100s of hours of Plague Inc, I can state with utmost certainty that you definitely can and often try to engineer a virus that is highly contagious but initially asymptomatic.

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

If you're talking about what's in that memo then that'd be an ethics violation. In fact, it'd violate the Navy's Code of Ethics in about half a dozen ways.

And this is an obstacle because...?
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Jakyl25 posted...

And this is an obstacle because...?

I don't know the punishment, but given his position it could be quite severe.

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

I don't know the punishment, but given his position it could be quite severe.

Trump would pardon him
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Jakyl25 posted...

Trump would pardon him

He can pardon someone from a military conviction, but it doesn't erase a dishonorable discharge. If the military decides lying about the President's health is worthy of dishonorable discharge that means he'd (the officer/doctor) probably receive no benefits for his service, government assistance/financial aid and possibly even bank loans. He'd also be ineligible for most/all government jobs and would have a hard time getting a civilian job. To get to where he is he is a career military man and even the President can't keep him from being stripped of everything he's earned from his position.

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

Jakyl25 posted...
He can pardon someone from a military conviction, but it doesn't erase a dishonorable discharge. If the military decides lying about the President's health is worthy of dishonorable discharge that means he'd (the officer/doctor) probably receive no benefits for his service, government assistance/financial aid and possibly even bank loans. He'd also be ineligible for most/all government jobs and would have a hard time getting a civilian job. To get to where he is he is a career military man and even the President can't keep him from being stripped of everything he's earned from his position.

Didn't Trump intervene like this for war criminal Eddie Gallagher?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Like, the idea that if youre asymptomatic, you arent spreading it is BLATANTLY false, right?

Correct. You can spread it before showing symptoms.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Didn't Trump intervene like this for war criminal Eddie Gallagher?

No, Trump said he'd give the man a pardon but it never even came to that. Gallagher was found not guilty of all but one charge, and it was a fairly minor one not eligible for DD. He got time served and a demotion, and was allowed to retire with honors. None of those things were Trump's doing.

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Gallagher was only allowed to retire with honors because Trump flat out said he'd block the Navy from removing him, and reversed his demotion. Trump absolutely intervened.

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Ah. Still, Gallagher wasn't going to be subjected to DD either way.

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No, but Jakyl's point is that Trump has already showed an absolute willingness to intervene and overrule whatever they decide when he feels like it.

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they should put up footage of Biden's town-hall vs the speech Bernie Sanders gave earlier on every single network.

Only one of these three guys even looks remotely fit to be President right now, and it's not close.

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https://twitter.com/colesprouse/status/1238507133110554625?s=21

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https://appropriations.house.gov/sites/democrats.appropriations.house.gov/files/Families%20First%20Summary%20FINAL.pdf

This is a relatively interesting bill. As stated, the FMLA and Sick leave does not pertain to me. It is only applicable to businesses with fewer than 500 employees and government employers. Thus, a large portion of America receives no benefit from it.

It also is not 14 days of sick leave. It is whatever you would work in 2 weeks, which is usually 10 days of sick leave (or less if part time).

It also expires at the end of this year, and it specifies the sick leave and FMLA is for Coronavirus reasoning, not being sick in general.

How was this better than a payroll tax cut for all Americans again?

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Because the people that would face the most financial hardship if they had to miss work would get little to nothing from a payroll tax cut. Just because this doesn't pertain to you doesn't make it a bad plan. Hell, it's probably what makes it a good plan. If you don't get Corona virus what do you really need relief from here?

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

Because the people that would face the most financial hardship if they had to miss work would get little to nothing from a payroll tax cut. Just because this doesn't pertain to you doesn't make it a bad plan. Hell, it's probably what makes it a good plan. If you don't get Corona virus what do you really need relief from here?

So the minimum wage GameStop employee doesn't deserve something over the possibly 150k a year employee of a 500 or less employer? Is that what you are saying?

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What happened to the topic? >_>;;

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Inviso posted...

What happened to the topic? >_>;;

GameFAQs keeps glitching it down to 22 posts or missing completely.

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Okay, that was weird. No matter the account I logged into, the board was only showing through post 22.

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So, let me explain this bill as written.

Employers of 500 or less employees receive the FMLA and Sick leave for their 2 week workweeks.

It is paid by crediting the employers on their payroll tax contribution to your social security.

The payroll tax credit will of course exceed the the sick pay and FMLA as set up by the company (this is why the payroll tax credit to workers was more beneficial, and nonworkers of course don't benefit from FMLA or sick pay).

Waitresses at chains, minimum wage workers at companies, and part time workers at big corporations won't benefit at all from this while possibly highly paid employees of smaller businesses will benefit fully. And, it will come out of every American workers social security to pay for it.

As stated, it makes zero sense to me to the point that I think it is written wrong.

Edit: FMLA maximum does exceed the payroll tax credit. The sick pay doesn't.

If I make 20k a year and go out 2 weeks at full pay. I get $769.23. And working the last 9 months of the year or 38 weeks my payroll tax credit would have been $906.15 for the employee for the rest of the year. And the tax credit for the employer for it would be up to $1240. So the tax credit for the employer fully covers it.

For FMLA if you go out the maximum 3 months at 80% pay at $20,000. $3,692.31. While the payroll tax credit would be $228.92 + $953.85 = $1182.77.

So, it goes red for $2509.54 for the company. (Of course they can offset this by the employees who don't use the FMLA also).

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Trump orders interest on Student Loans waived until further notice.

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yeah gamefaqs is glitching like crazy for the past couple hours on posts.

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