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Apocalyptic 03/15/20 7:09:48 PM #1:	Crunch is once again in the spotlight after a damning report on the culture at Naughty Dog revealed worrying working practices. In a superb report by Jason Schreier, development sources expressed concern at the ability of staff at Naughty Dog to continue working under brutal crunch conditions. The report reveals how delays to the upcoming The Last of Us 2 only continue the crunch at Sony's celebrated studio, rather than alleviate it - and burnout has caused Naughty Dog staff to leave. Here's a snippet: "Many who have worked at Naughty Dog over the years describe it as a duality - as a place that can be simultaneously the best and the worst workplace in the world. Working at Naughty Dog means designing beloved, critically acclaimed games alongside artists and engineers who are considered some of the greatest in their fields. But for many of those same people, it also means working upwards of 12-hour days and even weekends when the studio is in crunch mode, sacrificing their health, relationships, and personal lives at the altar of the game." Following the publication of the report, former Naughty Dog animator Jonathan Cooper took to Twitter to say The Last of Us 2's gameplay animators "crunched more than I've ever seen" to build a demo of the game shown in September 2019, which "required weeks of recovery afterwards". "One good friend of mine was hospitalised at that time due to overwork," Cooper continued. "He still had over half a year to go. There have been others since." Cooper went on to say Naughty Dog's reputation for crunch within Los Angeles "is so bad it was near impossible to hire seasoned contract game animators to close out the project". As a result, Cooper claimed, Naughty Dog hired film animators who "lacked the technical/design knowhow to assemble scenes". This, coupled with "the attrition of key roles", meant the design team "ballooned with juniors". "Every aspect of finishing this game took much longer due to the lack of game experience on the team," Cooper claimed. Cooper then claimed Naughty Dog's success "is due in large part to Sony's deep pockets funding delays rather than skill alone. A more senior team would have shipped TLOU2 a year ago". Sony and Naughty Dog have failed to comment officially on Kotaku's report or Cooper's comments, but Vice President of Naughty Dog Neil Druckmann took to Twitter to back the studio's animators - while failing to address the crunch-related accusations. Reminder that you can watch The Last of Us Part II on Youtube once it comes out and get the same experience. Don't support these hacks in charge of Naughty Dog. Think of our children, CE. --- ... <cite>Apocalyptic posted [p:935722968] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote><quote>Crunch is once again in the spotlight after a damning report on the culture at Naughty Dog revealed worrying working practices. In a superb report by Jason Schreier, development sources expressed concern at the ability of staff at Naughty Dog to continue working under brutal crunch conditions. The report reveals how delays to the upcoming The Last of Us 2 only continue the crunch at Sony's celebrated studio, rather than alleviate it - and burnout has caused Naughty Dog staff to leave. Here's a snippet: "Many who have worked at Naughty Dog over the years describe it as a duality - as a place that can be simultaneously the best and the worst workplace in the world. Working at Naughty Dog means designing beloved, critically acclaimed games alongside artists and engineers who are considered some of the greatest in their fields. But for many of those same people, it also means working upwards of 12-hour days and even weekends when the studio is in crunch mode, sacrificing their health, relationships, and personal lives at the altar of the game." Following the publication of the report, former Naughty Dog animator Jonathan Cooper took to Twitter to say The Last of Us 2's gameplay animators "crunched more than I've ever seen" to build a demo of the game shown in September 2019, which "required weeks of recovery afterwards". "One good friend of mine was hospitalised at that time due to overwork," Cooper continued. "He still had over half a year to go. There have been others since." Cooper went on to say Naughty Dog's reputation for crunch within Los Angeles "is so bad it was near impossible to hire seasoned contract game animators to close out the project". As a result, Cooper claimed, Naughty Dog hired film animators who "lacked the technical/design knowhow to assemble scenes". This, coupled with "the attrition of key roles", meant the design team "ballooned with juniors". "Every aspect of finishing this game took much longer due to the lack of game experience on the team," Cooper claimed. Cooper then claimed Naughty Dog's success "is due in large part to Sony's deep pockets funding delays rather than skill alone. A more senior team would have shipped TLOU2 a year ago". Sony and Naughty Dog have failed to comment officially on Kotaku's report or Cooper's comments, but Vice President of Naughty Dog Neil Druckmann took to Twitter to back the studio's animators - while failing to address the crunch-related accusations.</quote> Reminder that you can watch The Last of Us Part II on Youtube once it comes out and get the same experience. Don't support these hacks in charge of Naughty Dog. Think of our children, CE. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 03/15/20 7:22:12 PM #2:	im not gonna buy it because their games are boring and formulaic as fuck <cite>Reis posted [p:935723413] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>im not gonna buy it because their games are boring and formulaic as fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NOM 03/15/20 7:23:04 PM #3:	Nah I'ma buy it --- I dream broken dreams I make them come true <cite>NOM posted [p:935723439] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Nah I'ma buy it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 03/15/20 7:26:51 PM #5:	The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:935723590] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JosephRogan 03/15/20 7:30:06 PM #6:	I hope you don't own any Apple products or any sneakers, TC. --- https://youtu.be/8I0Px2vISFw https://youtu.be/7OBlffJbBEQ https://biblereasons.com/contacting-the-dead/ <cite>JosephRogan posted [p:935723703] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>I hope you don't own any Apple products or any sneakers, TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 03/15/20 7:30:45 PM #7:	Dude I don't give a shit, I'm just gonna buy a game if it's good <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:935723738] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Dude I don't give a shit, I'm just gonna buy a game if it's good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 03/15/20 7:32:24 PM #8:	Apocalyptic posted... Reminder that you can watch The Last of Us Part II on Youtube once it comes out and get the same experience. True <cite>coh posted [p:935723801] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Apocalyptic posted... </cite> <quote> Reminder that you can watch The Last of Us Part II on Youtube once it comes out and get the same experience.</quote>True </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jabodie 03/15/20 7:32:51 PM #9:	A similar thing happens in the engineering/design of building structures. I suspect that most project based jobs/ professions are like this in a capitalist society. Of course, in structures you usually aren't regularly putting in 80 hour weeks unless you work for a famous firm with a dick head boss, and you'll always get at least 1x overtime. Typically a young engineer will have to put in one or two 60-80 hour weeks when a big deadline is approaching. --- <insert sig here> <cite>Jabodie posted [p:935723820] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>A similar thing happens in the engineering/design of building structures. I suspect that most project based jobs/ professions are like this in a capitalist society. Of course, in structures you usually aren't regularly putting in 80 hour weeks unless you work for a famous firm with a dick head boss, and you'll always get at least 1x overtime. Typically a young engineer will have to put in one or two 60-80 hour weeks when a big deadline is approaching. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zack_Attackv1 03/15/20 7:36:31 PM #10:	What I buy is what I buy. --- https://imgur.com/u3EOGfT <cite>Zack_Attackv1 posted [p:935723978] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>What I buy is what I buy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 03/15/20 7:49:14 PM #12:	UnfairRepresent posted... The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed Gamers are the worst --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:935724460] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed</quote>Gamers are the worst </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 03/15/20 8:09:19 PM #13:	Wheres the link? --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:935725209] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Wheres the link?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 03/15/20 8:10:36 PM #14:	blah blah blah blah --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. Vicious_Dios Original - https://i.imgtc.ws/Zl0aw6F.png <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:935725260] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>blah blah blah blah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/15/20 8:12:27 PM #15:	shrugs I can't blame them in an industry where delays are a death sentence in terms of PR. The problem with gaming has always been and will always be gamers. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:935725335] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>shrugs I can't blame them in an industry where delays are a death sentence in terms of PR. The problem with gaming has always been and will always be gamers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 03/15/20 8:12:30 PM #16:	Nah I'll think I'll buy it so they get their money back in return for said crunching. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:935725338] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Nah I'll think I'll buy it so they get their money back in return for said crunching. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/15/20 8:15:04 PM #17:	you know what games dont suffer from crunch games that are games and not pandering feel bait trash <cite>645AR posted [p:935725431] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>you know what games dont suffer from crunch games that are games and not pandering feel bait trash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 03/15/20 8:17:15 PM #18:	triple A gaming needs to die <cite>coh posted [p:935725531] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>triple A gaming needs to die </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
645AR 03/15/20 8:18:42 PM #19:	coh posted... triple A gaming needs to die this isnt AAA gaming this is more like AAAA gaming where its less about the game and more about entertainment companies printing money and attaching it to something that happens to be a video game <cite>645AR posted [p:935725591] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>coh posted...</cite> <quote>triple A gaming needs to die </quote> this isnt AAA gaming this is more like AAAA gaming where its less about the game and more about entertainment companies printing money and attaching it to something that happens to be a video game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnightofShikari 03/15/20 8:18:43 PM #20:	i'm not going to buy it more because there's no multiplayer component and based on the first game i'm not that hyped. it doesn't seem like there's much new, just a different playable character and storyline, which seems to only aim for "super tragic" like it's oscar bait or something. i might get it when it's $10, if i'm not busy --- https://youtu.be/8R2syyseBJg <cite>KnightofShikari posted [p:935725592] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>i'm not going to buy it more because there's no multiplayer component and based on the first game i'm not that hyped. it doesn't seem like there's much new, just a different playable character and storyline, which seems to only aim for "super tragic" like it's oscar bait or something. i might get it when it's $10, if i'm not busy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken_Butt 03/15/20 8:19:57 PM #21:	I really doubt anyone actually cares. Some people here might act like they do, oh shock horror, but everyone who wants the game will buy it regardless of anything. They could be starving and lashing these developers and people would still buy the games. People still buy iPhones and Nikes, after all, and we all know what's going on there. --- Cluck. <cite>Chicken_Butt posted [p:935725653] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>I really doubt anyone actually cares. Some people here might act like they do, oh shock horror, but everyone who wants the game will buy it regardless of anything. They could be starving and lashing these developers and people would still buy the games. People still buy iPhones and Nikes, after all, and we all know what's going on there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 03/15/20 8:20:18 PM #22:	i hate the idea of crunch too but if you are not going to buy something over it, you're going to need to avoid the vast majority of western aaa games in that case ~~which isnt really that huge of a loss admittedly lol~~ --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:935725670] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>i hate the idea of crunch too but if you are not going to buy something over it, you're going to need to avoid the vast majority of western aaa games in that case which isnt really that huge of a loss admittedly lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/15/20 8:20:56 PM #23:	645AR posted... you know what games dont suffer from crunch games that are games and not pandering feel bait trash But GTA5 had crunch --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:935725690] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>645AR posted... </cite> <quote>you know what games dont suffer from crunch games that are games and not pandering feel bait trash</quote>But GTA5 had crunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 03/15/20 8:21:51 PM #24:	I don't give a fuck what happens behind the scenes. If it's a good game I'll buy it and support the hard work that went into it. --- SIGNATURE <cite>--Zero- posted [p:935725729] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>I don't give a fuck what happens behind the scenes. If it's a good game I'll buy it and support the hard work that went into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 03/15/20 8:25:36 PM #25:	Ill buy it a year later when its $20 and no one gives a damn about that old as hell year ago game. Like i always do. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:935725902] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Ill buy it a year later when its $20 and no one gives a damn about that old as hell year ago game. Like i always do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/15/20 8:28:51 PM #26:	LordMarshal posted... Ill buy it a year later when its $20 and no one gives a damn about that old as hell year ago game. Like i always do. Damn dude you play year old games? I thought I was bad waiting until week 2. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:935726056] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>LordMarshal posted... </cite> <quote>Ill buy it a year later when its $20 and no one gives a damn about that old as hell year ago game. Like i always do.</quote>Damn dude you play year old games? I thought I was bad waiting until week 2. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 03/15/20 8:30:06 PM #27:	oh is the naughty dog hate finally arriving it's only a decade and a half late --- https://imgur.com/HUHxlFl You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:935726108] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>oh is the naughty dog hate finally arriving it's only a decade and a half late </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 03/15/20 8:31:01 PM #28:	DevsBro posted... Damn dude you play year old games? I thought I was bad waiting until week 2. #2020RetroGamers. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:935726149] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>DevsBro posted... </cite> <quote>Damn dude you play year old games? I thought I was bad waiting until week 2.</quote> #2020RetroGamers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scorsese2002 03/15/20 8:39:39 PM #29:	12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo I got 60hrs in 4 days last week, come at me --- https://www.twitch.tv/dtake86 <cite>Scorsese2002 posted [p:935726548] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo I got 60hrs in 4 days last week, come at me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 03/15/20 8:57:28 PM #30:	You realize the staff all get massive bonuses if it sells well right? Rockstar is the same. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:935727420] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>You realize the staff all get massive bonuses if it sells well right? Rockstar is the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Feline_Heart 03/15/20 9:00:09 PM #31:	IDGAF. I'm buying it lol --- Pickles the Drummer doodily doo ding dong doodily doodily doo <cite>Feline_Heart posted [p:935727535] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>IDGAF. I'm buying it lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Apocalyptic 03/15/20 10:38:26 PM #32:	WesternMedia posted... Wheres the link? https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-03-14-crunch-once-again-in-the-spotlight-after-damning-report-on-the-last-of-us-2-developer-naughty-dog Oops --- ... <cite>Apocalyptic posted [p:935731434] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>WesternMedia posted... </cite> <quote>Wheres the link?</quote> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-03-14-crunch-once-again-in-the-spotlight-after-damning-report-on-the-last-of-us-2-developer-naughty-dog Oops </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 03/15/20 10:39:35 PM #33:	Nah, I got the Ellie edition pre ordered --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:935731468] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Nah, I got the Ellie edition pre ordered </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
refmon 03/15/20 10:49:11 PM #34:	Scorsese2002 posted... 12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! <cite>refmon posted [p:935731857] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite> <quote>12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Apocalyptic 03/15/20 10:54:59 PM #35:	Scorsese2002 posted... 12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo I got 60hrs in 4 days last week, come at me cracks whip --- ... <cite>Apocalyptic posted [p:935732049] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Scorsese2002 posted... </cite> <quote>12hr days? Boo fuckin hoo I got 60hrs in 4 days last week, come at me</quote> cracks whip </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 03/15/20 11:16:15 PM #37:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6N7FrFY-IA People are starting to talk now and tell their stories and OOF. --- https://imgur.com/6VeX04D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0pOIVkGkds <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:935732852] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6N7FrFY-IA People are starting to talk now and tell their stories and OOF. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 03/15/20 11:28:36 PM #38:	If you're worried about awful crunch time then you need to be more supportive of game delays and games "taking forever" to get made, because this happens with a lot of game devs. That's all I'm saying. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:935733363] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>If you're worried about awful crunch time then you need to be more supportive of game delays and games "taking forever" to get made, because this happens with a lot of game devs. That's all I'm saying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 03/15/20 11:30:36 PM #39:	I don't care about crunch time as I tend to naturally do it myself. To get shit done is to crunch. --- AirFresh - Voted the hottest content creator on The FAQs' #KeepItFresh <cite>AirFresh posted [p:935733432] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>I don't care about crunch time as I tend to naturally do it myself. To get shit done is to crunch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 03/17/20 5:50:47 AM #40:	Game delays don't alleviate crunch time. It's just management saying "Woohoo, we got 3 more months to make those strands of hair perfect, everybody keep working the 100 hour weeks". --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:935788185] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Game delays don't alleviate crunch time. It's just management saying "Woohoo, we got 3 more months to make those strands of hair perfect, everybody keep working the 100 hour weeks". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/17/20 8:18:44 AM #41:	LightningAce11 posted... Game delays don't alleviate crunch time. It's just management saying "Woohoo, we got 3 more months to make those strands of hair perfect, everybody keep working the 100 hour weeks". Graphics whorery is also gamers' fault. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:935790290] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>LightningAce11 posted... </cite> <quote>Game delays don't alleviate crunch time. It's just management saying "Woohoo, we got 3 more months to make those strands of hair perfect, everybody keep working the 100 hour weeks".</quote>Graphics whorery is also gamers' fault. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kolibri X 03/17/20 8:23:27 AM #42:	Crunch is bad but I'm glad there are devs making next-level, finely polished games like TLoU, RDR and CP2077. I'm buying it. I can't wait to see all the detail and work they put into this game. --- Platinum GameFAQs Member <cite>Kolibri X posted [p:935790361] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Crunch is bad but I'm glad there are devs making next-level, finely polished games like TLoU, RDR and CP2077. I'm buying it. I can't wait to see all the detail and work they put into this game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JosephRogan 03/17/20 10:03:34 AM #43:	Amy Hennig, is that you? --- https://youtu.be/8I0Px2vISFw https://youtu.be/7OBlffJbBEQ https://biblereasons.com/contacting-the-dead/ <cite>JosephRogan posted [p:935792877] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Amy Hennig, is that you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BathroomWater 03/19/20 7:11:58 AM #45:	You'd think that with the reputation they've built, working conditions would have improved over the years. Unfortunately, that's not how capitalism works. --- I'm a connoisseur of bathroom water. <cite>BathroomWater posted [p:935886274] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>You'd think that with the reputation they've built, working conditions would have improved over the years. Unfortunately, that's not how capitalism works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 03/21/20 6:29:27 AM #47:	Naughty Dog is the the only developer to never make a bad game yet have people pretend they have. That said the work practices in the game industry have yo change. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:935985794] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Naughty Dog is the the only developer to never make a bad game yet have people pretend they have. That said the work practices in the game industry have yo change. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 03/21/20 7:16:56 AM #48:	creativerealms posted... Naughty Dog is the the only developer to never make a bad game yet have people pretend they have. lol --- https://imgur.com/HUHxlFl You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:935986412] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite> <quote>Naughty Dog is the the only developer to never make a bad game yet have people pretend they have.</quote> lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EffectAndCause 03/21/20 7:26:24 AM #49:	Does crunching happen with every game? Why dont they just pick a late release date or not even announce it until theyre done? --- https://imgur.com/wMshiEN <cite>EffectAndCause posted [p:935986537] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>Does crunching happen with every game? Why dont they just pick a late release date or not even announce it until theyre done?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starmieketone 03/21/20 7:29:11 AM #50:	UnfairRepresent posted... The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed Personally, after working for a time in a role that experienced substantial crunch periods, I am quite happy to wait for a game, for as long as it takes. --- Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate. <cite>Starmieketone posted [p:935986592] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>The same people who complain about "crunch periods " also whine when a game Is delayed</quote>Personally, after working for a time in a role that experienced substantial crunch periods, I am quite happy to wait for a game, for as long as it takes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DevsBro 03/21/20 2:25:24 PM #51:	EffectAndCause posted... Does crunching happen with every game? Why dont they just pick a late release date or not even announce it until theyre done? Because 90/90 rule. And plenty of games have been announced when they were already done. You've just never heard of them because it's a terrible marketing strategy. --- 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 53 <cite>DevsBro posted [p:935999362] in Do not buy... [t:78475751]...</cite> <quote>EffectAndCause posted... </cite> <quote>Does crunching happen with every game? Why dont they just pick a late release date or not even announce it until theyre done?</quote>Because 90/90 rule. And plenty of games have been announced when they were already done. You've just never heard of them because it's a terrible marketing strategy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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