Poll of the Day > Why do Americans call it "Italian" whenever they cook pasta?

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Just because it's pasta doesn't mean it's proper "Italian" cooking. It's Americanized, and rarely do they get it right to call it Italian. Americans have some very weird methods to cook pasta and it's disingenuous to say "oh, we're having Italian tonight." No. You're having American pasta. Italian cooking has specific methods of cooking that is considered correct if you want to call it Italian.
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More copy and paste.


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0/10 for no effort

They don't.

Mongolian has pasta in it...it's not called italian, many soups have pasta in it, heck so many things have pasta that are not itallian that I think there are more things that are not, then things that are.

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shut up fredo

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it's kind of like how all non-americans outside of the US cook american food perfectly and no differently than actual americans ever, ok?

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Philoktetes posted...

Just because it's pasta doesn't mean it's proper "Italian" cooking. It's Americanized, and rarely do they get it right to call it Italian. Americans have some very weird methods to cook pasta and it's disingenuous to say "oh, we're having Italian tonight." No. You're having American pasta. Italian cooking has specific methods of cooking that is considered correct if you want to call it Italian.

Everything is Americanized. The shit we call Mexican isn't Mexican, the shit we call Chinese isn't Chinese, etc. Just roll with it.

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authentic copypasta from italia

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As an Italian American, stfu

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Theyre uncultured, they dont eat real Italian food like little Caesars.

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Because Italy has developed such a strong cultural monopoly on western pasta dishes that, aside from swedish meatballs, no one can even think of a pasta dish that isn't Italian or Italian based.

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Unbridled9 posted...

Because Italy has developed such a strong cultural monopoly on western pasta dishes that, aside from swedish meatballs, no one can even think of a pasta dish that isn't Italian or Italian based.

Ramen and lo mein would like to have a word with you.

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Philoktetes posted...

Just because it's pasta doesn't mean it's proper "Italian" cooking. It's Americanized, and rarely do they get it right to call it Italian. Americans have some very weird methods to cook pasta and it's disingenuous to say "oh, we're having Italian tonight." No. You're having American pasta. Italian cooking has specific methods of cooking that is considered correct if you want to call it Italian.

Literally nobody says you're having Italian food when just cooking pasta. They say they are having pasta.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

Ramen and lo mein would like to have a word with you.

Those are noodles.
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Between this and oinky buns, it's amazing anything gets cooked over there.

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Spaghetti, linguini, rotini, vermicelli, macaroni, yep, an "i" on the end makes any noodle Italian. Unless it's Kraft Dinner, the national dish of Canada, discounting poutine.


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What kind of cheese is used in Poutine?

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Everything is Americanized. The shit we call Mexican isn't Mexican, the shit we call Chinese isn't Chinese, etc. Just roll with it.

I was going to mention this as well. But it's not as if it matters, because as other people have pointed out, Philoktetes is a troll who rarely posts anything that isn't a copy/paste from somewhere else anyway.

Though now I'm suddenly wondering - does this mean that by the logic of this topic, all copypasta is Italian?
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Metalsonic66 posted...

What kind of cheese is used in Poutine?

Cheese curds. You can substitute for mozzarella if curds are unavailible.

But what kind of curds? Cottage cheese is in curds but I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to put cottage cheese on fries with gravy

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WhiskeyDisk posted...

Ramen and lo mein would like to have a word with you.

Not to mention eastern dishes where as I specified western.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

What kind of cheese is used in Poutine?

Ideally, "curds", whatever they are. Quick and dirty, I just sprinkle with shredded Monterey Jack. I'm told Parmesan works, too, not authentic but quick and easy. I'm also told that a real Canadian will recoil in horror from poutine made with Velveeta.

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dancer62 posted...

Ideally, "curds", whatever they are. Quick and dirty, I just sprinkle with shredded Monterey Jack. I'm told Parmesan works, too, not authentic but quick and easy. I'm also told that a real Canadian will recoil in horror from poutine made with Velveeta.

Velveeta is used on a lot of things that you wouldn't think it should be used on though. Isn't cheez whiz just melted Velveeta? A lot of people like that on Philly cheesesteaks.
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Velveeta is okay for dips and stuff but I don't just want cheese fries

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Nothing wrong with eating a Italian. Just season with a bit of salt first.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Nothing wrong with eating a Italian. Just season with a bit of salt first.

You will need to wash the Italian thoroughly first though. Especially if he's a plumber. Then add lots of mushrooms.
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Revelation34 posted...

You will need to wash the Italian thoroughly first though. Especially if he's a plumber. Then add lots of mushrooms.

Make sure not to leave any hairs too.

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Revelation34 posted...

Velveeta? A lot of people like that on Philly cheesesteaks.

In my 5 years of cooking in Philly, out of all the cheesesteaks I've made, only 1 customer asked for whiz. On top of that, except for those 2 tourist trap restaurants which few Philadelphians go to, most restaurants use American cheese slices.

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Sunny pretending he can cook is cute.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

In my 5 years of cooking in Philly, out of all the cheesesteaks I've made, only 1 customer asked for whiz. On top of that, except for those 2 tourist trap restaurants which few Philadelphians go to, most restaurants use American cheese slices.

Gross. At least use a real cheese like provolone on them.
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That's some real illogical thinking right there.

This is in regards to winters comment.

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Revelation34 posted...

Gross. At least use a real cheese like provolone on them.

It's better than Velveeta.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

It's better than Velveeta.

It's the exact same shit since it's still processed. You're not going to find any of that unprocessed since it's a combination of multiple cheeses.
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Revelation34 posted...

It's the exact same shit since it's still processed. You're not going to find any of that unprocessed since it's a combination of multiple cheeses.

There are some brands of American cheese that are cheese.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

That's some real illogical thinking right there.

https://i.imgur.com/dWYh0IH.gif

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China invents pasta/noodles and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: We're gonna credit the Italians for this

China spawns the coronavirus and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: China can take all the credit for this one!

China: fucking bastards!

streamofthesky posted...

China invents pasta/noodles and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: We're gonna credit the Italians for this

China spawns the coronavirus and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: China can take all the credit for this one!

China: fucking bastards!

To be fair, Marco Polo didn't go to China and bring pasta back to Brooklyn. We tend to give credit to the people who bring stuff here, not who invented it in the first place.

And then there's the weird situations, like how we have places that sell "Chinese food" when it's actually Americanized Japanese food. Because it was the Japanese who originally started opening food places in the US, but then when we put all the Japanese people into internment camps during WWII the Chinese took them over, and we all just sort of forgot they were ever Japanese in the first place.

Sort of like if "Freedom Fries" and "Liberty Cabbage" were still in use.
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I thought we adopted the cuisine from them and changed it then it migrated back and we let them keep calling it Italian because we are a kind and just world order. Who's an adorable little pasta paisano. That's right you are.

I love it when they use linguini to make lo mein.

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streamofthesky posted...

China invents pasta/noodles and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: We're gonna credit the Italians for this

China spawns the coronavirus and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: China can take all the credit for this one!

China: fucking bastards!

China did not invent pasta in any shape or form. They did not have the wheat to make it. They made rice noodles.

Why not call it italian

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SunWuKung420 posted...

There are some brands of American cheese that are cheese.

That is what cheese is.
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Lil69Leo posted...

Cheese curds. You can substitute for mozzarella if curds are unavailible.

If you don't have cheese curds then you just go without.

dancer62 posted...

I'm also told that a real Canadian will recoil in horror from poutine made with Velveeta.

This is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing and I genuinely hope it's the last. What kind of sick person would do such a thing?

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synth_real posted...

If you don't have cheese curds then you just go without.

maybe you do

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synth_real posted...

If you don't have cheese curds then you just go without.

This is the first time I've ever heard of such a thing and I genuinely hope it's the last. What kind of sick person would do such a thing?

Sick for recoiling from Velveeta? Although It's the traditional cheese for melting with Rotel for nachos. Pretty good for scalloped potatoes, too, although I've become lazy and make mine from a box mix, yay Betty Crocker!

OTOH, I wouldn't necessarily use Velveeta for Welsh Rarebit, either, when I can use Smoky Bacon Cheddar.

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Lil69Leo posted...

China did not invent pasta in any shape or form. They did not have the wheat to make it. They made rice noodles.

China had wheat. They also had buckwheat, millet, and other grains. They were growing it before any significant European civilization even existed.

Rice was always their dominant crop, and they'd make flour out of rice for various things, but wheat was always there, especially in certain regions versus others.
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synth_real posted...

If you don't have cheese curds then you just go without.

Then it wouldn't be poutine.
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streamofthesky posted...

China invents pasta/noodles and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: We're gonna credit the Italians for this

China spawns the coronavirus and it's later transferred to Italy
U.S.: China can take all the credit for this one!

China: fucking bastards!

That's... not really fair. The various dishes associated with the italian cuisine, while they utilize ingredients of international origin, were both derived and popularized in Italy. A lot of dishes have odd origins in regards to location. That's just how it is.

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Revelation34 posted...

That is what cheese is.

Cheese is actually very strictly defined. A lot of what is produced and called cheese outside of Europe, is not actually cheese.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Cheese is actually very strictly defined. A lot of what is produced and called cheese outside of Europe, is not actually cheese.

Something like Velveeta wouldn't be cheese by definition but name brands like say Sargento would be.
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