Poll of the Day > If Sharon was Peggy Carters Grandaughter in the comics.....

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I just looked it up and they changed it to being her grand niece in the movies lol....so at least Cap wasn't smooching and romantically involved with his own grand daughter, but it's still kinda Icky after Endgame lol.

Also not sure where/when they mentioned she was a niece and not daughter of peggy in the show, I must have missed it.

I'm rewatching Winter Soldier btw, which is why I thought of all this.

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I dont think Steve and Peggy ever did the dirty though

unless you count the other timeline where he stays in the past

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wolfy42 posted...

If Sharon was Peggy Carters Grandaughter in the comics.

She's not.

Keep in mind, when Cap was originally defrosted in the comics, it was only 1964. WWII was only about two decades prior, and Cap had only been in suspended animation for 19 years. Peggy being his love interest during the war made sense, and she was only in her 40s when he came back. It made perfect sense for her to have a niece in her 20s. Sharon was Peggy's niece, the daughter of Peggy's brother.

But in the films, the time gap is much, much longer. And even in the comics, the sliding timeline means that the amount of time Cap spent in suspended animation is effectively getting longer and longer (ie, it's canon that only about 15 years have passed in the Marvel universe since the Fantastic Four got their powers, and every single comic since has happened in the last 15 years). This results in a number of problems (like Frank Castle becoming the Punisher after being a Vietnam vet - except now he wasn't even born during the Vietnam War, so they've quietly retconned him into being a Gulf War vet instead. Eventually, he'll probably wind up being a vet from Iraq/Afghanistan, and so on).

So now having Sharon be Peggy's niece doesn't really feel like it works, considering Peggy should theoretically be in her late 90s/early 100s, and Sharon is still in her 20s/30s in the mainline comic universe. So they start to rely on handwaves to justify it. In the movies, she's Peggy's grand-niece. Because the comics love apeing the movies, that'll probably become canon in the comics eventually as well. Then in a few more decades it'll probably slide another generation. And so on.

What complicates things more is that they don't always stick to strict continuity when they do alternate universes. So there's at least one universe where Peggy and Sharon are actually sisters. So you could always find stories where they're not aunt/niece at some point.
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I thought they were originally sisters when Sharon was first introduced

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Ahh, ok, that is better then, it did kinda weird me out watching him kiss her, it's still a bit strange since he literally just burried peggy in the movie, but at least not as bad.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

This results in a number of problems (like Frank Castle becoming the Punisher after being a Vietnam vet - except now he wasn't even born during the Vietnam War, so they've quietly retconned him into being a Gulf War vet instead. Eventually, he'll probably wind up being a vet from Iraq/Afghanistan, and so on).

Man, I'll never understand comics, but your explanation clarifies some things. Heroes are just reborn all the dang time!

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It's a Marvel exclusive thing, DC has their own uniquely fucked up solution

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SpeedDemon20 posted...

Man, I'll never understand comics, but your explanation clarifies some things. Heroes are just reborn all the dang time!

Yeah, the first time I remember realizing "Marvel Time" was a thing was when someone wrote a letter to the editor during the 90s X-Men saying that they needed to bring in new characters because the X-Men themselves were getting too old. The editor replied by saying that "with the exception of Wolverine", none of the Gold or Blue squads were older than their late 20s (and in fact, Beast turned 30 during that run). I was like "But they've been around for 30 years...ohhhhh, differing passage of time."


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SpeedDemon20 posted...

Man, I'll never understand comics, but your explanation clarifies some things.

The problem is, comics never want to give up popular characters, so you can't let Spider-Man grow up, get too old, retire, and then pass his legacy on to a new character (or just have no Spider-Man entirely).

Remember that Peter Parker was a teenager in school in 1961. If comic characters aged in real time, he'd be in his mid-70s today.

You can't have every character have a healing factor that keeps them from aging (Wolverine, implied with Captain America post-defrost), or give them immortality potions (Nick Fury). So you have to come up with excuses why none of these people seem to be aging. But then you either have to keep everything a period piece (where all the stories are still taking place in the 60s/70s), or come up with some other way to distort time or reset things.

The in-universe canon explanation for weird time flow in the Marvel universe is that Franklin Richards (Reed Richard's kid) is the most powerful mutant who has ever existed, and he sort of subconsciously uses his power to because he doesn't really want to grow up. So he's literally compressing time itself, and presumably occasionally quietly retconning things (like the war the Punisher fought in becoming more sensible, or Tony Stark shifting to be injured in the Middle East instead of Southeast Asia, etc).

Yeah, it's weird, but most of the alternatives would wind up feeling even weirder.

Speaking of which...



Blighboy posted...

It's a Marvel exclusive thing, DC has their own uniquely fucked up solution

Yep. Resetting your entire universe and completely altering people's backstories every 10 years or so isn't really a less confusing way to keep things going.

"Hey, I read a comic in 1983 where Superman did a thing, but this new comic contradicts that."

"Oh no, that wasn't this Superman. That was like four universes ago. That Superman ceased to exist in 1985."

"Wha...?"

This is part of why new readers don't get into comics.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

This is part of why new readers don't get into comics.

That's me!

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