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solosnake
03/26/20 5:47:57 PM
#53:


Ness0123456789 posted...
On the flipside in a more optimistic outlook - while it is true you don't die immediately upon being confirmed to be Covid-19 positive, our confirmed cases is skyrocketing, and has been for almost the past week, yet our death rate has remained relatively the same.

Compare that to Italy, which has had a dramatic increase in both cases and deaths. So it does seem to imply that the demograph, or something else in the USA, is making it so most people who get the disease don't die, or show mild to moderate cases that can be self-treated at home.

It's why it would be super nice and helpful if the WHO or CDC gave out actual statistics on this virus, rather than just raw "This person is confirmed" and "This person has died" numbers. There's so much gray area to the Covid-19 that we really need to know more about the cases themselves, rather than the numbers, to really get an accurate look of what things are going to look like in a month from now.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronavirus-update-dead-covid19-doctors-hospitals

Doctors And Nurses Say More People Are Dying Of COVID-19 In The US Than We Know
The numbers are grossly under-reported. I know for a fact that weve had three deaths in one county where only one is listed on the website, one California ER doctor told BuzzFeed News.

Medical professionals around the US told BuzzFeed News that the official numbers of people who have died of COVID-19 are not consistent with the number of deaths theyre seeing on the front lines.

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SpudForce
03/26/20 5:48:44 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
AZ has been on this since late January. Get your facts straight before posting next time
Yeah no they haven't. That's why most of the Phoenix area is still open and why they have some of the lowest test numbers in the nation.

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 5:49:52 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
The more tests we do, the more people are diagnosed with it. There are millions of people who probably already had it and never even knew.
If there were millions of people who already had it then they infected millions of people. That's how virus spreading works. That is why people without symptoms need to get tested so we can stop unknowing carriers from spreading the virus and creating another NYC.

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Bishop9800
03/26/20 5:50:02 PM
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Are we "great" yet?

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TomNook20
03/26/20 5:50:20 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if we do surpass china since we actually have limits on our government's powers, but I doubt china's numbers are accurate.

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onedarksoul
03/26/20 5:51:49 PM
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SpudForce posted...
Yeah no they haven't. That's why most of the Phoenix area is still open and why they have some of the lowest test numbers in the nation.
As far as being open: Read Duceys executive orders
As far as test numbers, AZ was constrained by capacity, numbers of test kits available and the CDC not certifying private labs here until recently
Get your facts straight before posting next time

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CADE FOSTER
03/26/20 5:52:40 PM
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calm your tits ladies
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Aki_Sora
03/26/20 5:52:45 PM
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Murica
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Malcrasternus
03/26/20 5:53:09 PM
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I wish everyone could just hunker down for three weeks. Government gives out the checks to keep people afloat, on the condition that people stay put and starve out the virus.

A biological clump of matter with no brain is outsmarting entire nations, ffs.

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Squall28
03/26/20 5:53:49 PM
#62:


solosnake posted...
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/coronavirus-update-dead-covid19-doctors-hospitals

Doctors And Nurses Say More People Are Dying Of COVID-19 In The US Than We Know
The numbers are grossly under-reported. I know for a fact that weve had three deaths in one county where only one is listed on the website, one California ER doctor told BuzzFeed News.

Medical professionals around the US told BuzzFeed News that the official numbers of people who have died of COVID-19 are not consistent with the number of deaths theyre seeing on the front lines.

Perhaps the number in CA wasn't updated yet?

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SpudForce
03/26/20 5:55:55 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
As far as being open: Read Duceys executive orders
As far as test numbers, AZ was constrained by capacity, numbers of test kits available and the CDC not certifying private labs here until recently
Get your facts straight before posting next time
Lol keep making excuses, even poor as hell New Mexico has managed to test thousands more than Arizona did.

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NES4EVER
03/26/20 5:56:51 PM
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TomNook20 posted...
It wouldn't surprise me if we do surpass china since we actually have limits on our government's powers, but I doubt china's numbers are accurate.

I had this discussion a few days ago with a friend. I also doubt the official numbers from China but that's what we have to work with. I was saying that regardless of how you feel about democracy vs authoritarianism, this has highlighted the one positive aspect which is population control of movement in the event of an epidemic. Compare to European Union where you have free transit and open borders between members and how quickly it has spread there.

I am in no way supporting China or their government, just an observation.

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onedarksoul
03/26/20 6:05:32 PM
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Having doctored numbers is worse then no numbers at all.

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Talk2DaHand
03/26/20 6:08:55 PM
#66:


SpudForce posted...
And we have states like Mississippi, Arizona, Florida and more still not taking this seriously....

The virus will bring them to the fold eventually. Just give it a few days and when old southerners start dropping like flies they'll understand.

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CrazyandLazy
03/26/20 6:09:32 PM
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Do you guys think Trump will ever get it?
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Talk2DaHand
03/26/20 6:11:53 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
Having doctored numbers is worse then no numbers at all.

They lull you into a false sense of security.

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DanHaren2019
03/26/20 6:12:19 PM
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I've heard of several deaths where patients had high suspicion for covid and died, but the test eventually came back negative after they died. But the test is only 70% sensitive as of now.

Some people are testing twice if they have an initial negative test but high suspicion.

So based on that I'd say there is some decentlu large percentage, anywhere from like 5 to 25 percent that are unrecorded deaths. But that's a total guestimate.
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BettyWhite
03/26/20 6:16:51 PM
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To be fair China is definitely grossly under-reporting.

And also to be fair, we had an awful lot of time to prepare and did absolutely nothing until it was already bad. Sorta like watching a fire encroaching upon your house and only doing something once your house is on fire.

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TrowaBarton7
03/26/20 6:17:09 PM
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https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-has-worlds-biggest-outbreak-topping-china-2020-3

The US now has the world's biggest coronavirus outbreak its case total just surpassed China's

Confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus in the US have topped the totals in China and Italy, making the US the epicenter of the global outbreak.

In the US, confirmed cases hit 82,353 on Thursday evening, surpassing China's 81,782 and Italy's 80,589. The total number of confirmed cases globally is 523,163, according to researchers at Johns Hopkins University.

Since the US reported its first coronavirus case on January 20, more than 1,100 people in the country have died from the disease. The death tolls in Italy and China are higher.

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/26/20 6:22:05 PM
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Honestly it's a good thing, because it shows were doing something- as in we got tests out there

Say what you want about about us, but we ain't afraid to say the bad shit about us

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 6:22:13 PM
#73:


TrowaBarton7 posted...
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-us-has-worlds-biggest-outbreak-topping-china-2020-3

The US now has the world's biggest coronavirus outbreak its case total just surpassed China's
And prepare for it to get a whole lot worse when fat fuck forces the country open for Easter.

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Paper_Okami
03/26/20 6:22:38 PM
#74:


Unsugarized_Foo posted...
but we ain't afraid to say the bad shit about us

lmfao

yeah that's we ignore the myriad of terrible things this country has done in its history or excuse them

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 6:23:40 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Honestly it's a good thing, because it shows were doing something- as in we got tests out there

Say what you want about about us, but we ain't afraid to say the bad shit about us
We're not testing enough. Even the professionals are saying we're not testing enough. In IL my wife and I can't get tested despite the ER physician telling us we most likely have the virus because we're not sick enough, because in IL the only way to get tested is to be in the ICU, have been in contact with someone who has the virus, or be elderly. So bragging about our testing numbers is laughable considering the real infected number is easily a whole lot worse.

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CrazyandLazy
03/26/20 6:26:36 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
We're not testing enough. Even the professionals are saying we're not testing enough. In IL my wife and I can't get tested despite the ER physician telling us we most likely have the virus because we're not sick enough, because in IL the only way to get tested is to be in the ICU, have been in contact with someone who has the virus, or be elderly. So bragging about our testing numbers is laughable considering the real infected number is easily a whole lot worse.

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/26/20 6:26:36 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
lmfao

yeah that's we ignore the myriad of terrible things this country has done in its history or excuse them

Case and point

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Unsugarized_Foo
03/26/20 6:27:44 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
We're not testing enough. Even the professionals are saying we're not testing enough. In IL my wife and I can't get tested despite the ER physician telling us we most likely have the virus because we're not sick enough, because in IL the only way to get tested is to be in the ICU, have been in contact with someone who has the virus, or be elderly. So bragging about our testing numbers is laughable considering the real infected number is easily a whole lot worse.

We're not, but we're in the process of pumping out tests like mad men. The private sector for the go ahead and thats some nice muscle

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Ness0123456789
03/26/20 6:30:31 PM
#79:


solosnake posted...


Doctors And Nurses Say More People Are Dying Of COVID-19 In The US Than We Know
The numbers are grossly under-reported. I know for a fact that weve had three deaths in one county where only one is listed on the website, one California ER doctor told BuzzFeed News.

Medical professionals around the US told BuzzFeed News that the official numbers of people who have died of COVID-19 are not consistent with the number of deaths theyre seeing on the front lines.

Which is why I said we need more information.

How many more people are dying than are being reported? It is it a significant number? Saying "Grossly under-reported", than backing that up only with circumstantial evidence is not helpful. Is every hosipital only reporting one or two unreported deaths? Are there hospitals that are recording deaths from people dying of Covid-19 that weren't actually killed by the virus, and vica versa, were some deaths that were recorded not to be Covid-19 related, in fact, Covid-19 related.

We also need to know more about these people dying that are "Genuinely healthy". Did they have an underlying condition we didn't know about, nor did they, like the twenty-one year old Socer player that died from Covid-19 based after learning he had Leukhemia the same day he was admitted?

I'll say it again - right now all we have are straight numbers. We have no idea of telling if Covid-19 is more or less dangerous than what we have right now.

We should be doubling down as hard as we can on undrestanding the virus, and those it's claimed, so we can get a better idea of what we're dealing with rather than just here-say and numbers. Numbers are helpful, but insight into what those numbers actually mean is far more important.

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Squall28
03/26/20 6:33:02 PM
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Ness0123456789 posted...
Which is why I said we need more information.

How many more people are dying than are being reported? It is it a significant number? Saying "Grossly under-reported", than backing that up only with circumstantial evidence is not helpful. We also need to know more about these people dying that are "Genuinely healthy". Did they have an underlying condition we didn't know about, nor did they, like the twenty-one year old Socer player that died from Covid-19 based after learning he had Leukhemia the same day he was admitted?

I'll say it again - right now all we have are straight numbers. We have no idea of telling if Covid-19 is more or less dangerous than what we have right now.

We should be doubling down as hard as we can on undrestanding the virus, and those it's claimed, so we can get a better idea of what we're dealing with rather than just here-say and numbers.

My bet is the undiagnosed cases significantly outnumber the uncounted deaths so the percentage should be lower. No way for us to know though.

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NeonOctopus
03/26/20 6:34:05 PM
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pauIie
03/26/20 6:34:44 PM
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YellowMustard69 posted...
We are home of some of the smartest, healthiest, and happiest people in the world.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2020/03/20/ ranked-20-happiest-countries-2020/#229af32c7850

18th happiest

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 6:35:19 PM
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Squall28 posted...
My bet is the undiagnosed cases significantly outnumber the uncounted deaths so the percentage should be lower. No way for us to know though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE68xVXf8Kw

In NYC they're finding out that people who are in the hospital for other reasons (car accident, broken bones etc) are turning out to have COVID-19 as well. It's a hell of a lot worse than what fat fuck is claiming.

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Ness0123456789
03/26/20 6:38:02 PM
#84:


Squall28 posted...
My bet is the undiagnosed cases significantly outnumber the uncounted deaths so the percentage should be lower. No way for us to know though.

This is my guesstimate as well. With the current expected infection rate stating that around 80% of people experience little to mild symtpoms (mild being the operative word here - it still feels like the flu if you get it), I imagine that when this is all said and done, the global death of the virus will be significantly lower. Not Flu low, but probably closer to the 1-2% mark.

The infection rate though is probably still going to be close to seasonal flu levels, if not higher.

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ThunderTrain
03/26/20 6:39:48 PM
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USA probably has about 5,000,000 cases sadly

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iPhone_7
03/26/20 6:41:21 PM
#86:


Youre godamn ****ing right were #1

USA! USA!

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Strider102
03/26/20 6:41:58 PM
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We have finally achieved MAGA.

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Squall28
03/26/20 6:43:26 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
USA probably has about 5,000,000 cases sadly

That would be good news imo. It would mean the death and hospitilazation rate is much lower than we thought, and a lot of people already developed an immune response to it.

I doubt it though.

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Ness0123456789
03/26/20 6:44:46 PM
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Squall28 posted...
That would be good news imo. It would mean the death and hospitilazation rate is much lower than we thought, and a lot of people already developed an immune response to it.

I doubt it though.

This. If 5 million or more people in the US have cases, that means that the overwhelming majority of people infected with Covid-19 are completely asymptomatic, and are not affected by the virus in any meaningful way.

Though like Squall said, that's not really even a remote possibility from a statistical stand point.

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ThunderTrain
03/26/20 6:50:08 PM
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Squall28 posted...
That would be good news imo. It would mean the death and hospitilazation rate is much lower than we thought, and a lot of people already developed an immune response to it.

I doubt it though.

I mean in the next few weeks this is going to get so much worse so a majority of those people probably arent showing symptoms yet.


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NintendoFan81
03/26/20 6:59:36 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
1. This is reported cases. You think China wants the world to know what the fuck is going on? You think there are a bunch of testing going on in Libya and South Sudan?
2. You can't ignore population. Obviously, Italy is having a way tougher time.
3. Every place will go through spikes so it will be hard to really gauge the effect.

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Squall28
03/26/20 7:18:14 PM
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My states hospitalization rate is 30%. Yikes

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Cornmuffins
03/26/20 7:20:50 PM
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Squall28 posted...
My states hospitalization rate is 30%. Yikes


Does this mean you will be doing %30 less shitposting?
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Strider102
03/26/20 7:21:55 PM
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Squall28 posted...
My states hospitalization rate is 30%. Yikes

It hasn't surpassed the flu, cancer, or car crashes. You good bro. No need to get scared.

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MelbuFrahma4
03/26/20 7:23:07 PM
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US doesn't have the highest deaths at least. Which is good. You can survive if you get this. It not like Italy with 700 deaths a day

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 7:24:47 PM
#96:


MelbuFrahma4 posted...
US doesn't have the highest deaths at least. Which is good. You can survive if you get this. It not like Italy with 700 deaths a day
We're 2 weeks behind Italy. By Easter it's very likely we'll be well beyond them death rate wise.

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MelbuFrahma4
03/26/20 7:25:30 PM
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ReiRei89 posted...
We're 2 weeks behind Italy. By Easter it's very likely we'll be well beyond them death rate wise.

Isn't US supposed to open up by Easter though? Or at least what Trump is aiming to do.

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ReiRei89
03/26/20 7:27:06 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
Isn't US supposed to open up by Easter though? Or at least what Trump is aiming to do.
Trump's a fucking dipshit and ignoring what every medical professional is telling him. Just because he wants to open the country doesn't mean the virus will be contained. Reality says otherwise. We're trending 2 weeks behind Italy. This means we have yet to see the peak and we won't see the peak until about Easter at the very least. Things are going to get bad and keep getting bad.

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Tired-Insomniac
03/26/20 7:27:35 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
Isn't US supposed to open up by Easter though? Or at least what Trump is aiming to do

It's not up to Trump, thankfully

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Squall28
03/26/20 7:29:01 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
Does this mean you will be doing %30 less shitposting?

Can't go less than zero my friend

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Resaix
03/26/20 7:36:32 PM
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Thanks Trump! MAGA indeed
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toyota
03/27/20 3:59:39 AM
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How the fuck did this happen smdfh

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