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Rika_Furude
04/05/20 7:12:45 AM
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You people used to say the most important thing in a game is the gameplay

What changed?

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teepan95
04/05/20 7:19:45 AM
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What do you mean you people?
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MT_TRAEH
04/05/20 7:19:52 AM
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it wasnt the gameplay that made people love the original FF7

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malenz
04/05/20 7:20:12 AM
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dunno what you're talking about friendo

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Rika_Furude
04/05/20 7:20:32 AM
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teepan95 posted...
What do you mean you people?
yoyu people who infest ce
the "vocals"

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malenz
04/05/20 7:21:14 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
yoyu people who infest ce
the "vocals"

malenz posted...
dunno what you're talking about friendo


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Lukey_Bug
04/05/20 7:22:14 AM
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The Yoyu people are a proud tribe. We will not stand for this discrimination.

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teepan95
04/05/20 7:22:38 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
teepan95 posted...
What do you mean you people?
yoyu people who infest ce
the "vocals"

Personally the most important thing to me is the writing/characters

Which is why, to me, New Vegas is the best game of all time
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Kami_no_Kami
04/05/20 8:28:10 AM
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Because it was advertised as the thing people have been clamoring for the last 15+ years: a remake of one of the most beloved games of all time.

If it doesnt have the gameplay of the original and it doesnt have the story of the original, in what way is it a remake?
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UnfairRepresent
04/05/20 8:32:37 AM
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Things aren't in a vacuum.

Gameplay is usually the most important thing because the average level of video game writing is sub-par.

But games with great stories or atmosphere or enviroments? Often gameplay can be shit and it not matter.

Hell the bad gameplay actually helps the story and atmosphere in things like Silent Hill 2.

Life Is Strange has so little gameplay it's a boarderline TV show. Even calling it's levels "Episodes."

I haven't played FF7R but if it has long boring cutscenes and dialouge with a boring story and bland dull characters then gameplay isn't going to save it unless it's GOAT and all the story is skippable.
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boxington
04/05/20 8:36:10 AM
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I'll have to see it for myself, since being spoiled by major parts of a story and seeing it unfold yourself are two different things.

and even if its story ends up being different from the original's, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Lunar_Savage
04/05/20 8:57:51 AM
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in RPGs, story takes precedent. Combat and its flow and strategic depth are a close second.

I played the demo, the combat seemed fine and like it had some thought put into it at the least even if it isn't exactly my preferred flavor.

But to hear they royally fucked the story part and essentially ruined what I wanted? Yeah, fuck that noise.

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pikachupwnage
04/05/20 9:06:05 AM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
Because it was advertised as the thing people have been clamoring for the last 15+ years: a remake of one of the most beloved games of all time.

If it doesnt have the gameplay of the original and it doesnt have the story of the original, in what way is it a remake?

Uh that technically would be exactly why it is a remake instead of just being a remaster. If all people wanted was a prettier version of the same game ask for a remaster not a remake.

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FF_Redux
04/05/20 9:08:35 AM
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Vyrulisse
04/05/20 9:17:04 AM
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008Zulu
04/06/20 12:09:07 AM
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Japan tends to make the stories in the games more convoluted than they have to be, which results in crappy ass translations when they are westernised.

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pres_madagascar
04/06/20 6:16:29 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Nomura is a fucking hack that's why.
Bingo

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Rika_Furude
04/06/20 6:17:30 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Japan tends to make the stories in the games more convoluted than they have to be, which results in crappy ass translations when they are westernised.
How is it convoluted
People called mgs convoluted and they were wrong about that as well

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Strider102
04/06/20 6:18:51 PM
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It was because of One-Winged Angel.

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Veggeta_MAX
04/06/20 6:21:12 PM
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Please keep the meltdowns to the FF7R board.

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Kazi1212
04/06/20 6:23:42 PM
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Wait, FF7R has a different story?

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Rika_Furude
04/06/20 6:25:15 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Wait, FF7R has a different story?
If you watch the trailers you can see it

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Touch
04/06/20 6:26:00 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
Whiny kids


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Tyranthraxus
04/06/20 6:29:32 PM
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The best part of the internet is how people started taking arguments from different people and then asserting that the same person made both arguments and then further asserting that the hybrid merged argument person is also the entire audience to which he is speaking.

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Rika_Furude
04/06/20 6:30:30 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The best part of the internet is how people started taking arguments from different people and then asserting that the same person made both arguments and then further asserting that the hybrid merged argument person is also the entire audience to which he is speaking.
In this case its literally true

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pres_madagascar
04/06/20 6:39:53 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
Wait, FF7R has a different story?
Not until the last 30 minutes basically.

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Darmik
04/06/20 6:42:22 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
How is it convoluted
People called mgs convoluted and they were wrong about that as well

1 and 3? Maybe.

2 and 4? Hell no.

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Veggeta_MAX
04/06/20 6:57:31 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
The best part of the internet is how people started taking arguments from different people and then asserting that the same person made both arguments and then further asserting that the hybrid merged argument person is also the entire audience to which he is speaking.
It's another form of entitlement if you ask me. People think their opinion is so important that they literally believe they are speaking for the majority. It hurts their feelings a lot when you call them the vocal minority.

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