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SDBZ
04/15/20 9:52:26 AM
#51:


Irony posted...
If you start with a newer one it's hard to go to old ones because of how dated they are. Better off starting with an older series. Black is when the series first became good and you can actually ignore the series before it.

True, but she can still start with an earlier Heisei show. Like pre-2010. It doesn't have to be as old as Black, although Black is a good one to start with.

Also not everyone lets the fact a show looks dated bother them.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 1:39:48 PM
#52:


Black is over 70% filler. I mean every Showa Rider is wall to wall filler but people recommend Black for the 30% (maybe 20%) that isn't. It's great if you know what you're in for but yeah.

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p-m
04/15/20 1:45:44 PM
#53:


SmidgeIsntBack posted...
I just realized I have seen this, years ago when a let's player I follow showed it on ustream for an audience of like 20 people. I will always stan Princess Dragon Mom.

Nice. She's an excellent villain.

I'm slowly watching through Kamen Rider Gaim. I like everything apart from the dancing. I watched some Kamen Rider movie on YouTube last year in terrible quality but it was excellent, had a whole biopunk feel to it. Can't remember the name

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Calwings
04/15/20 1:48:18 PM
#54:


IReallyDoubtIt posted...
There's also a crossover movie coming out this year called Pretty Den-O.

That sounds insane.

Anyways, thanks for the answers, guys. I'll see if I can find time to start a Kamen Rider series (leaning towards Den-O, partly due to that crossover) some time soon. If any of you guys ever decide to give Precure a shot too, let me know.
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p-m
04/15/20 1:50:30 PM
#55:


p-m posted...
I watched some Kamen Rider movie on YouTube last year in terrible quality but it was excellent, had a whole biopunk feel to it. Can't remember the name
This was it https://letterboxd.com/film/kamen-rider-zo/


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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 2:15:41 PM
#56:


ZO, not to be confused with Zi-O or ZO (Zero One). Fun fact, ZO was made into an ~interactive movie~ for the Sega CD where it was also English dubbed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8rs8_RgfQI


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SDBZ
04/15/20 3:31:06 PM
#57:


Calwings posted...
That sounds insane.

Anyways, thanks for the answers, guys. I'll see if I can find time to start a Kamen Rider series (leaning towards Den-O, partly due to that crossover) some time soon. If any of you guys ever decide to give Precure a shot too, let me know.

Pretty Den-O isn't a Pretty Cure crossover. Den-O is still a good series to start with though.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 3:35:32 PM
#58:


Damn, that's my bad, sorry @Calwings

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Calwings
04/15/20 3:44:21 PM
#59:


SDBZ posted...
Pretty Den-O isn't a Pretty Cure crossover. Den-O is still a good series to start with though.

Awwwwwww... is it like a sequel to Den-O, or some alternate universe thing?
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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 4:01:21 PM
#60:


With the exception of "I'm Born!" which takes place between episode 27 and 28, all Den-O specials and movies take place after the series. "Final Countdown" is also kind of sort of a second finale to the series.

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SDBZ
04/15/20 4:11:02 PM
#61:


Cal, I advise that you watch Den-O. It's really good. Main cast are all nice, especially Momotaros who's my favourite. Lots of comedy too. I'm sure you'll love it.

Also I think Pretty Den-O takes place after the TV show. In fact it's probably the latest Den-O story chronologically.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 4:23:31 PM
#62:


Momotaros is indeed the best.

https://i.imgur.com/2WAJseA.gifv

wish I could find good quality gifs of his ridiculous body movements when he's sulking or showing off.

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Zikten
04/15/20 4:33:46 PM
#63:


that youtube channel looks pretty cool. I hope they eventually have entire series
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Calwings
04/15/20 4:35:33 PM
#64:


Duly noted, thanks guys. I'll go with Den-O... whenever I can actually get around to watching it. Unfortunately, my backlog of anime is huge these days, and series that have English dubs are on higher priority right now because the majority of my free anime-watching time is spent multi-tasking with something else. So trying to fit in a long Kamen Rider series with no dub isn't really feasible right now. But someday I will, I promise!
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SDBZ
04/15/20 6:01:36 PM
#65:


Calwings posted...
Duly noted, thanks guys. I'll go with Den-O... whenever I can actually get around to watching it. Unfortunately, my backlog of anime is huge these days, and series that have English dubs are on higher priority right now because the majority of my free anime-watching time is spent multi-tasking with something else. So trying to fit in a long Kamen Rider series with no dub isn't really feasible right now. But someday I will, I promise!

You better! And damn, I can't imagine multi-tasking while watching shit. My brain is too small for that and I won't be able to be fully immersed.

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Calwings
04/15/20 6:21:31 PM
#66:


SDBZ posted...
And damn, I can't imagine multi-tasking while watching shit. My brain is too small for that and I won't be able to be fully immersed.

I've been working a small side job from home while my actual job search is on hold due to the coronavirus, and I usually put anime on the TV while I work. It takes enough attention away that I can't constantly focus on reading subtitles, but not so much that I can't still follow English audio and understand what's going on. The only things I'm still watching subbed are currently airing series that I'm only watching one episode a week of.

But like I said, I'll definitely try to get a Kamen Rider series in at some point.
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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 6:30:04 PM
#67:


Zikten posted...
that youtube channel looks pretty cool. I hope they eventually have entire series

It sounds like the plan is to upload the raws one at a time and then fans will submit subtitles to play when people go to the videos.

https://twitter.com/toku_gami/status/1249381892912287745

The subtitles have to be approved by the channel owner, but there's no info on the quality checking or how subtitlers will be credited, if they're credited. Still, it's better than nothing at all, plus fansubs can get the highest quality raws this way.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/15/20 9:10:37 PM
#68:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpxBjTWeLIk

Using the armored cannon point blank is still very clutch.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/16/20 1:21:15 AM
#69:


Catching up on Zero One right now

Episode 25: This show is great, even when it's doing a recap.

Episode 27: Aruto is bringing this show down, what a waste of air. I hope Gai destroys him while Yua just sits in the corner and frowns.

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AlisLandale
04/16/20 1:24:30 AM
#70:


You shut up Aruto is great. >_>

Eat shit, Thouser!

But all I want is for my Toothpick Queen to stop jobbing and actually contribute to the story again

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Airhammy
04/16/20 1:58:06 AM
#71:


Since this thread is here I'll plug my solo cast on Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAlIUR9-l3E

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/16/20 2:08:13 AM
#72:


Episode 27 spoilers: He literally stands by and watches Gai kick Fuwa's ass and destroy the damning evidence.
And now episode 28 comes along and unwittingly proves that, yeah, HumaGears will absolutely overthrow us the second they get the chance.

Remember at the start of this stupid arc when Gai cared about having a fair contest and proving his vision for humanity was better? Lmao eff that, gotta go full villain every moment after because it's not like anyone cares.

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AlisLandale
04/16/20 5:00:04 AM
#73:


I mean, I just assumed Gai pretended to care about a "fair" contest out of arrogance, and began to become increasingly dickish as Aruto was proving to be more of a match for him. Literally pulled some bullshit "but akshully" technicality just to with the house selling contest. >_>

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SDBZ
04/16/20 7:52:05 AM
#74:


IReallyDoubtIt posted...
Catching up on Zero One right now

Episode 25: This show is great, even when it's doing a recap.

Episode 27: Aruto is bringing this show down, what a waste of air. I hope Gai destroys him while Yua just sits in the corner and frowns.

Fuck Gai. Seriously fuck that piece of evil dogshit. When you catch up and watch Project Thouser, which is subbed now, you will understand why I hate this piece of shit so much. I hope he fucking dies like a pathetic shit.

AlisLandale posted...
Eat shit, Thouser!


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KamenRiderBlade
04/16/20 1:36:55 PM
#75:


SDBZ posted...
Fuck Gai. Seriously fuck that piece of evil dogshit. When you catch up and watch Project Thouser, which is subbed now, you will understand why I hate this piece of shit so much. I hope he fucking dies like a pathetic shit.
So his heel character did his job. He got you to hate him.

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SDBZ
04/16/20 3:25:12 PM
#76:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
So his heel character did his job. He got you to hate him.

Yes. This isn't the first time I read this kind of post. Someone said the same thing on a thread on /m/. But it's true. That's the aim of his character and it's working.

They better not pull a redemption with him because there is absolutely nothing redeeming with him. He needs to die.

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Calwings
04/16/20 3:39:31 PM
#77:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
So his heel character did his job. He got you to hate him.

As someone who is a fan of both anime and pro wrestling, I definitely have an appreciation for villains/heels that are really good at getting fans to hate them even when the fans want to like them.
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IReallyDoubtIt
04/16/20 3:49:38 PM
#78:


I don't hate Gai because he's evil, I hate him because his motives are all over the place and he's only perceived as a genius because everyone else is a dumbass (he seriously buys Hiden without realizing Hiden doesn't own the patent to Humagears, which was the whole the crux of his plan). He also doesn't grow or change, and when the characters remember "oh yeah I'm stronger than this guy" he comes back the very next episode as smug as before.

Masamune Dan was a flat villain who comes in at the 11th hour to shake things up. But what he did have going for him was that when he started losing fights, he started becoming unhinged because his whole plan relied on him being the strongest. Gai doesn't even have that. He's pretty much back to the same place he was when he was introduced and his personality hasn't changed a bit.

He's like a worse Masamune combined with a bad Evolt.

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SDBZ
04/16/20 7:59:07 PM
#79:


IReallyDoubtIt posted...
Masamune Dan

ZEPPAN DA

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/18/20 12:38:23 AM
#80:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_757rxU2pWA

Kyuranger!

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AlisLandale
04/18/20 12:42:24 AM
#81:


It's kind of ironic that Kyuranger was the one series developed to be more marketable in the West, only to be constantly skipped over when it comes time to do an adaptation. >_>

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/18/20 1:04:48 AM
#82:


Was it? Go-Busters seemed way more western in concept and even had all the Power Rangers references.

https://powerrangers.fandom.com/wiki/Tokumei_Sentai_Go-Busters#References_to_.22Power_Rangers.22

I know if I was a kid though I probably would have loved the Kyuranger suits a lot more.

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AlisLandale
04/18/20 1:55:01 AM
#83:


I read that Kyuranger was developed with direct input from Bandais western branches to try and make something that would specifically be popular in the West (in terms of suit design, toys, etc) Though I confess I dont have a source on hand for that. >_>

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/18/20 7:11:12 AM
#84:


I did find a link that supports it.

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/new-super-sentai-series-created-with-american-input/

It brings up an interesting point about modern Power Rangers needing to compete with the MCU's modern definitions of a superhero.

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AlisLandale
04/18/20 8:00:48 AM
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Juhanor
04/18/20 9:01:28 AM
#86:


Gonna re-watch Godzilla this weekend
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WendoloKazaki
04/18/20 10:15:31 AM
#87:


who else is glad zero one over the hump of the whole stupid competition arc

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divot1338
04/18/20 10:21:36 AM
#88:


AlienLanes posted...
The high point of this style of movie/TV isn't even Japanese. It's a Hong Kong movie from the 70s called Super Inframan and it's one of the best things I've ever seen
Its on Amazon Prime

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AlisLandale
04/18/20 10:28:29 AM
#89:


WendoloKazaki posted...
who else is glad zero one over the hump of the whole stupid competition arc

I actually really liked the competetion arc tbh. But then, I really like character-focused episodic stories, and I really liked all the "humagears of the week". The drama was definitely at its lowest point, though, and things are really heating up. For that I'm glad.

Also, I'm just gonna leave this here.

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WendoloKazaki
04/18/20 1:16:42 PM
#90:


i like them too but i just thought they were a slog this time

doesn't help i want thouser to get kicked in the dick

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AlisLandale
04/18/20 8:08:03 PM
#91:


When the five dicks cross the golden soldier thouser gets fucked in the ass

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Skye Reynolds
04/18/20 8:35:51 PM
#92:


IReallyDoubtIt posted...


https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/new-super-sentai-series-created-with-american-input/

Could be good. Could be disastrous.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/18/20 9:25:45 PM
#93:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1y3o6JGoSQ

Writing the way of Shinobi with the blade of my heart! Kamen Rider Shinobi!

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/19/20 4:18:15 PM
#94:


p-m posted...
I watched some Kamen Rider movie on YouTube last year in terrible quality but it was excellent, had a whole biopunk feel to it. Can't remember the name

BTW if you want more biopunk then Kamen Rider Shin has also been officially subbed on Toei's channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2XWMFUFvg

Warning: It's pretty violent.

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p-m
04/19/20 4:21:26 PM
#95:


Nice, I'll watch that tonight I think. I watched a couple more episodes of Kamen Rider Gaim last night, I didn't expect this patisserie chef character to go the way he has.


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Skye Reynolds
04/19/20 4:25:53 PM
#96:


I've seen a few Ultraman series the whole way through and a couple partway through. I've never seen Kamen Rider though.

Should I begin with the new or the old?

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WendoloKazaki
04/20/20 1:15:56 AM
#97:


did you watch old ultraman or new ultraman?

do you mind old camera shenanigans + old practical effects?

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Calwings
04/20/20 12:52:29 PM
#98:


> Precure series about magical girls fighting evil virus monsters
> put on hiatus by IRL pandemic virus

https://i.imgur.com/uPEdY1B.jpg

Has Toei's other stuff like Kamen Rider also been put on hiatus?
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SDBZ
04/20/20 1:42:45 PM
#99:


Calwings posted...
Has Toei's other stuff like Kamen Rider also been put on hiatus?

Nothing said yet.

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IReallyDoubtIt
04/20/20 2:22:56 PM
#100:


The current Sentai's Red was hospitalized for corona, but he has since recovered and Toei deconfirmed the rumors that they were putting all live action filming on hold.

Skye Reynolds posted...
I've seen a few Ultraman series the whole way through and a couple partway through. I've never seen Kamen Rider though.

Should I begin with the new or the old?

I think if you don't mind eventually going back to the old stuff, then just start with Kamen Rider W and follow sequentially. W/Double is just a fun ride and most of the series between it and 01 have been the same.

https://twitter.com/toku_gami/status/1017032045661425665

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