Current Events > New US coronavirus cases drop for the fourth day in a row

(+) Yeah! (+)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Life will resume as normal around June 1st perhaps?

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Hopefully this encourages people that this distancing is helping and we can get over this soon.

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It's gonna flare back up as soon as we open up.

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I saw a poll saying 72% supported June 1st reopening

but you'll likely see a gradual phasing in and redefining what is essential

Here on the west coast (Best coast) the governors are planning some kind of reopening strategy

It shows that all the social distancing is working.

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I think medical people are guessing on June 5th a Friday.

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Colorahdo posted...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Life will resume as normal around June 1st perhaps?

I'd rather see non essential businesses open in early May except for cons, theme parks, theaters, and maybe the beach.
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Are cases really dropping or is it that they're lacking in tests? I think they're just lacking tests

People aren't willing to stay locked up and confined forever.

I mean we are living below human standards.

People are gonna be like "fuck it".


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an obvious first step could be to open rural areas and keep urban areas locked down a bit longer

make sure older and compromised folk continue to stay in if possible

keep schools closed

mandate masks be worn indoors

We are near the end of the tunnel. Hooray!

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SkylightNight posted...

Are cases really dropping or is it that they're lacking in tests? I think they're just lacking tests

It could be but NY's hospitalizations also went down and you can't really fake that...unless more people are dying at home which is possible I guess

SkylightNight posted...

Are cases really dropping or is it that they're lacking in tests? I think they're just lacking tests

Hospitalisations and deaths are also going down

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Still feels like we've got a long road to go, but at least we're seeing some positive results from the recommended course of action concerning the coronavirus.

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Come on, babeh! I want my sports back.
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Should open on June 6th and we can storm the beaches again

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I feel like this is only the first wave of this shit.

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Colorahdo posted...

Hospitalisations and deaths are also going down

Deaths are up today again

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Deaths are up today again

True but 2000, 1900, 1600, 1500, 1700 I'd say is a downward trend

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Deaths are up today again

up to 1700 from 1500 over the last few days but remember there's always a lag in reporting for the weekends so that could be it

either way its still trending down which is nice to hear

Colorahdo posted...

True but 2000, 1900, 1600, 1500, 1700 I'd say is a downward trend

today is not over

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TheGoldenEel posted...

today is not over

Fair enough, I guess we can't say deaths are trending up or down yet

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one nice thing about flattening the curve is the chance of an otherwise healthy person dying decreases (due to lack of medical care because of hospital overload)

and if you look at the NYC stats (which are the most robust death stats)....you really only have to worry if you're over 65 or have an underlying condition.

I am unlucky in that I have an underlying condition, but if you're young and healthy, odds are you're going to be just fine

Not to be super negative or anything. I just think too many people are going to take any positive news as proof that the US overreacted or that its time to end social distancing measures right now, instead of as proof these measures are working

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Not to be super negative or anything. I just think too many people are going to take any positive news as proof that the US overreacted or that its time to end social distancing measures right now, instead of as proof these measures are working

Its an impossible argument to make because we have no control group showing what would have happened had we not social distanced. That line of argumentation is moot and we're social distancing and things are getting better.

Which is why a slow roll opening is best. But we need positive vibes when they exist, and its looking like things are positive at the moment (as positive as they can be)

death count 1800 now btw

Its now going away, time to re-open & go back to our normal lives.

We survived! *starts shaking hands*

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prediction: hand shaking will likely not come back and most people won't really care

those that do won't want to put anyone in an awkward position

After reopening, I'm pretty sure we'll just see the infection trend shoot upwards again. They say it's to give hospitals more time to get settled to prepare for it, but the increase in infection and deaths is so exponential that I dunno to what extent they can claim to "handle" it without a proper vaccine

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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

People aren't willing to stay locked up and confined forever.

I mean we are living below human standards.

People are gonna be like "fuck it".

Like these people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4i9Ap6dCg

Romes187 posted...

prediction: hand shaking will likely not come back and most people won't really care

those that do won't want to put anyone in an awkward position

What about fist bumps and high fives?

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It's a good sign that cases are dropping, but no guarantee there will be no more peaks. Places need to wait a bit longer in my view before making a plan. When in doubt- avoid most of what Trump says, he just wants to golf again and rip more people off.

A few reminders-

1) Wisconsin had an election last week, many people (not all had masks) had to go outside to vote because mail-in voting wasn't an option for all.

2) Groups of people still going to church (especially for Easter Sunday).

3) Many people in general still are ignoring stay-at-home orders, because they are selfish.

4) No cure or vaccine. So obviously it CAN spread again, even if people claim it wont.

Romes187 posted...

Its an impossible argument to make because we have no control group showing what would have happened had we not social distanced. That line of argumentation is moot and we're social distancing and things are getting better.

Which is why a slow roll opening is best. But we need positive vibes when they exist, and its looking like things are positive at the moment (as positive as they can be)

We are the control group. The measures we're taking came a lot later and hit a lot softer than they should have and we wouldn't need to be staying in as long as we will if the US handled it better. Compare us to South Korea and you see the effects of timely measures compared to no timely measures. They prevented significant catastrophe, we're living through it.

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maybe....

One thing I do know is...at least in my area, and I can't speak for others, but we are social distance'd and masked up like crazy around here

I want to say this is what we're seeing around the country considering initial projections vs what is happening

imo the US is the greatest country in the world and our people are all awesome and we're doing a good job flattening the curve.

Simply based on the numbers....how thats playing out in reality is impossible to tell. Yes there will be clips of people not distancing, but I can't go by anecdotes...gotta go by the numbers. And the numbers tell me America is doing a good job social distancing

el_cheato posted...

We are the control group. The measures we're taking came a lot later and hit a lot softer than they should have and we wouldn't need to be staying in as long as we will if the US handled it better. Compare us to South Korea and you see the effects of timely measures compared to no timely measures. They prevented significant catastrophe, we're living through it.

That's not how it works
Too many variables in the models. If you look at our death rate / 1m we look really good...if you take out NY, we look really really good compared to what could have been

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu#Deadly_second_wave

The second wave of the 1918 pandemic was much more deadly than the first. The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics; those most at risk were the sick and elderly, while younger, healthier people recovered easily. By August, when the second wave began in France, Sierra Leone, and the United States,[100] the virus had mutated to a much more deadly form. October 1918 was the month with the highest fatality rate of the whole pandemic.[101]

This increased severity has been attributed to the circumstances of the First World War.[102] In civilian life, natural selection favors a mild strain. Those who get very ill stay home, and those mildly ill continue with their lives, preferentially spreading the mild strain. In the trenches, natural selection was reversed. Soldiers with a mild strain stayed where they were, while the severely ill were sent on crowded trains to crowded field hospitals, spreading the deadlier virus. The second wave began, and the flu quickly spread around the world again. Consequently, during modern pandemics, health officials pay attention when the virus reaches places with social upheaval (looking for deadlier strains of the virus).[103]

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for the last time averagejoel

this isn't the flu

stop spreading trumps propaganda

Romes187 posted...

an obvious first step could be to open rural areas and keep urban areas locked down a bit longer

make sure older and compromised folk continue to stay in if possible

keep schools closed

mandate masks be worn outside

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Mandating masks outside was a thought

but imo more people will take it as an overreach

whereas if you mandate masks inside

I'll bet you get more folks wearing masks outside without asking

MAYBE....big maybe

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1250167683355750401?s=19

Jesus and we still have several hours to go

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yeah it jumped...but check out this tweet NYT dropped

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1250159339781922816?s=20

Thats a lot of assumed corona...might even be the case, but I wonder why they cannot be tested positive....interesting

Might even be a non-point since it looks like there was a bump in some other states death rates. They lagged behind NYC a bit so they'll likely be jumping up as well

I'm just mad cus travelling between properties isn't allowed where I live.. my grandparents own a lake house and I easily could've stayed there for the rest of the year and been fine without seeing anyone cus there are only 3 other homes near that lake and nothing else for 5 miles

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Everytime a hospital admits, discharges or loses a patient to COVID, the state is compensated 15% more thanks to the CARES Act. NYC was facing a hospital budget crisis and the coronavirus bailed them out. All the numbers are inflated just to get more money back. Unreal. This is the world we live in.

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EvalAngell posted...

Everytime a hospital admits, discharges or loses a patient to COVID, the state is compensated 15% more thanks to the CARES Act. NYC was facing a hospital budget crisis and the coronavirus bailed them out. All the numbers are inflated. Unreal.

That's not something we can know. The incentives are there, but you cannot assume this is the case.

Coupled with the NYT article above, it'd be interesting to see what we could find out....but doubt any info will come that sways it one way or the other

Like four 9/11s a week in deaths still though

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casio_guy posted...

I'm just mad cus travelling between properties isn't allowed where I live

they haven't allowed it in some parts of Connecticut. even on the coast. governor banned anyone from trying to access second homes aka summer homes in some communities.

supposedly it would've brought a strain to a small community and risk of covid transmission.
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Spellcaster posted...

Like four 9/11s a week in deaths still though

yeah but if you really think about it, it's like 10000 single driver car accidents each week

Romes187 posted...

for the last time averagejoel

this isn't the flu

stop spreading trumps propaganda

when has trump talked at all about the 1918 pandemic?

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it was a shit post, you'll be better off not responding to them