Poll of the Day > Could we start a petition to bring back Marvels Daredevil from netflix to Disney

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I mean, I get that they are not letting marvel stuff be on other channels, but Daredevil was great (the others not so much although Jessica was still decent).

But I mean, personally, I find/though that Fisk from Daredevil was one of my favorite villians of all time, and I really liked the show all together. I think it is VERY worth bringing back.

Maybe they could swing a deal to allow it to be on both netflix and Disney + or something?

Anyone else even slightly interested in more seasons of that great show?

I mean.....it had "Avacados at Law" AND Fisk.....totally worth saving.

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Does it require special privileges to start one?

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I wonder if there is still gonna be that long rumored moon knight show or if thats been cancelled

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I don't even know how to start one, but other shows have been brought back by them in the past (like Lucifer for instance) so I know it's possible.

I don't know about Moon Knight, but I think basically Disney and DC have everything locked up now, so probably not on anything besides them.

I'm considering rewatching all the daredevil shows (and maybe the defenders along the way) one more time (would be my 4th..which is probably a record for any show...with Seinfield and DD tied for 3 times currently).

I would love for the series to continue, I really liked it, especially the first season.

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I suspect Disney would rather start working on a MCU Daredevil than spend money on another one

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That sort of thing has literally never worked in the past with Marvel, I doubt it would this time.

Though worse in that scenario, the rights issues almost certainly make it absolutely impossible for them to bring back the exact version of the shows from Netflix. They can always do different shows with the same characters (because they own them), but they'd almost guaranteed have to recast and start continuity over.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

That sort of thing has literally never worked in the past with Marvel, I doubt it would this time.

Though worse in that scenario, the rights issues almost certainly make it absolutely impossible for them to bring back the exact version of the shows from Netflix. They can always do different shows with the same characters (because they own them), but they'd almost guaranteed have to recast and start continuity over.

Shucks, I was hoping some kinda of collaberation could be done, since the show was so good, but that was because of the actors they chose etc. You can't have a different Fisk for instance, no way. Oh well, it was a dream.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

I suspect Disney would rather start working on a MCU Daredevil than spend money on another one

Except Netflix Daredevil is the MCU one.

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I mean things like Lucifer crossing over have happened. Isn't Lucifer actually in the DC universe? Netflix currently has the rights for it.

I think Marvel/Disney though is being a bit more close to the chest on it's content sadly though.

The recent Marvel Daredevil brought something new (in my opinion) to the genre, with a gritty real feel, that still had humor (so it wasn't as dark as the dark knight movies etc). It has an epic Villian that I'm almost more interested in watching evolve than the heroes, and I liked pretty much all the main characters in the show.

That seems like an over all win for a show, let alone a super hero show, and I think it's a great waste to just let it fade away, mainly because they made 23 gajillion spin offs that didn't do as well.

Focus on the good one, or possibly keep JJ out there, or just do Defenders every so often when they all get together that includes JJ/IF and PM (if that), but don't get rid of the one solid show that people really liked.

I rate Fisk as quite possibly my favorite villian of all time, but certainly my favorite TV series Villian. It's a shame to see that just go poof.

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The cool thing with Marvel is that all their stuff is connected

While the Avengers are hard at work, stuff is still going on with SHIELD, The Defenders etc

With that being said, DareDevil and co. are already established in the MCU, so if they're to be brought back, they'll need the original back stories (and hopefully cast) from the Netflix shows otherwise it only makes sense to keep them absent completely

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JixHedgehog posted...

With that being said, DareDevil and co. are already established in the MCU, so if they're to be brought back, they'll need the original back stories (and hopefully cast) from the Netflix shows otherwise it only makes sense to keep them absent completely

Just like when Disney bought Star Wars their new films needed to dance around the existing EU

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to me it actually never really felt like the Netflix shows were a real part of the MCU, aside from occasional references there wasnt a lot to actually tie characters to any of the film elements or any non-netflix series. It was almost like Netflix had its own Sub-MCU on the side.

It was cool that all the shows intermingled with each other Ill admit. But the fact that stuff like the snap was never addressed in any of the shows or that all the characters were totally MIA for stuff like Infinity War/Endgame was kinda lame.

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JixHedgehog posted...

The cool thing with Marvel is that all their stuff is connected

While the Avengers are hard at work, stuff is still going on with SHIELD, The Defenders etc

With that being said, DareDevil and co. are already established in the MCU, so if they're to be brought back, they'll need the original back stories (and hopefully cast) from the Netflix shows otherwise it only makes sense to keep them absent completely

I'm gonna send an email to disney plus, but I'm just one bloke, I have no clue how to start up petitions etc. Not even sure if there are enough people who liked the show to make it worthwhile. There was a ton of noise for Lucifer for instance, I jumped in on that, but I mean, almost nothing about daredevil at all, so perhaps there isn't much interest.

I do really like lucifer, especially the last few seasons when he was more devilish, but I liked Daredevil more, so I'm a bit confused one one show got so much love and noise when it was canceled and the other was just ignored.

Perhaps it's due to extreme burnout from IF/LC/JJ I never finished season 2 of IF or LC and barely finished the last season of JJ...so I can see how that is totally possible (yet sad).

Never had a problem watching the DD shows though, even though the first was by far better (but that may be due to focusing on other shows too much).

I would really have liked to see all the chars in that show evolve over time, and see Fisk become a true crime lord.

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Disney Plus had to censor a butt on a PG rated movie. What makes you think they'd allow something like Daredevil?
Maybe with 4kids style censorship but why would you want that?

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Mead posted...

to me it actually never really felt like the Netflix shows were a real part of the MCU, aside from occasional references there wasnt a lot to actually tie characters to any of the film elements or any non-netflix series. It was almost like Netflix had its own Sub-MCU on the side.

It was cool that all the shows intermingled with each other Ill admit. But the fact that stuff like the snap was never addressed in any of the shows or that all the characters were totally MIA for stuff like Infinity War/Endgame was kinda lame.

Yeah, it was like it was totally seperate, although they did make mention to things like shield and I think the attack on NY ii the avengers movie, that was about it.

Everything could have happened in the shows before the snap though, which would explain that, in fact even before Civil War probably.

I'm not sure if the timeline was every really broken down, but I got the feeling it was more like around the time of Avengers 1 or right after it) when super heroes were not that well known etc, Spidey wasn't even around yet etc.

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The studio working on the Netflix shows was completely separate from the film studios, more so than any other MCU property.

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Ferarri619 posted...

Disney Plus had to censor a butt on a PG rated movie. What makes you think they'd allow something like Daredevil?
Maybe with 4kids style censorship but why would you want that?

Ack no!! I didn't realize they couldn't show mature content....wait, all the other MCU movies are on disney and they have tons of violence and death (admittingly not as much blood as DD hehe). I could see how that sadly could be toned down, but it could still mostly be the same probably.

Or they could just agree to allow Netflix to continue to make new seasons.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Except Netflix Daredevil is the MCU one.

That's debatable, though.

Yes, those shows may have effectively claimed to be part of the MCU, and incorporated elements of it into the their plot, but it's very much a relationship that flows one way. From the perspective of the films, the Netflix series essentially don't exist.

The same applies to Agents of SHIELD, which was even more blatantly tied into the MCU. The Marvel film division has flat out said as far as they're concerned, Agents of SHIELD wasn't really canon.

Basically, from the beginning, there was a lot of behind the scenes tension between Marvel Studios (the film division) and Marvel Television (the TV division). It's really only now that Marvel Studios has entirely taken over Marvel Television's production that they're working on integrating Disney+ shows into the MCU more significantly (hence the multiple shows revolving around film characters).
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

The same applies to Agents of SHIELD, which was even more blatantly tied into the MCU. The Marvel film division has flat out said as far as they're concerned, Agents of SHIELD wasn't really canon.

Except didn't the shield being cobra thing first happen in agents of shield? I thought there was a few other things that came from the show (colson etc).

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wolfy42 posted...

Except didn't the shield being cobra thing first happen in agents of shield?

1) Hydra, not Cobra. (though ironically, Cobra in GI Joe originally was supposed to be Hydra, because Marvel wrote the GI Joe comics the cartoon was based on. The writer on the comic was going to make Hydra the bad guys until they were told they weren't allowed to, so they just made a thinly-veiled copy of Hydra and called it Cobra)

2) And nope. Agents of SHIELD was directly responding to the events of Winter Soldier. But because TV filming schedules are easier to adjust (and happen over a shorter period of time) than films, the show was able to sync up the reveal to happen right around the same time the movie came out.



wolfy42 posted...

I thought there was a few other things that came from the show (colson etc).

Nope.

Fans of the show would often say things like "Hey, shouldn't Coulson show up in the Avengers?" or "Wouldn't it be cool if they had Fitz or Simmons do a cameo in a film?" or "Is any of the crazy stuff they're doing in SHIELD ever going to influence anything in the films?", and the answer was always "Hah hah, no."

The only things where the show and the films overlapped were things where the show was deliberately referencing things from the films. The films never acknowledge that the show exists in any way. Nothing that originated in the show ever make it back into the films. Joss Whedon even said that, as far as he was concerned, Coulson was still dead in the movies, in spite of the fact that he was actually the one who pushed to get Agents of SHIELD made as a show in the first place (and he helped get his brother put in charge of writing it).

Again, it's basically because the execs in Marvel Studios hated the Marvel Television division, and mostly refused to work with them. Even Feige rarely cooperated except when he absolutely had to, in spite of technically being beholden to both divisions.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Fans of the show would often say things like "Hey, shouldn't Coulson show up in the Avengers?" or "Wouldn't it be cool if they had Fitz or Simmons do a cameo in a film?" or "Is any of the crazy stuff they're doing in SHIELD ever going to influence anything in the films?", and the answer was always "Hah hah, no."

Ahh, well that makes sense I guess....although it's sad.

I stopped watching Agentt of shield sometime after ghost rider was a part of it (and I missed some episodes before that as well I think). It started off goodish, but I got bored with it.

Daredevil is really the only Marvel TV show that has kept my interest.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Again, it's basically because the execs in Marvel Studios hated the Marvel Television division, and mostly refused to work with them. Even Feige rarely cooperated except when he absolutely had to, in spite of technically being beholden to both divisions.

Yeah I've heard there was a lot of tension between the 2. Originally there was supposed to be more crossovers and better integration between the movies and shows.
Like orginally in Luke Cage season 2 the main villain Bushwacker was supposed to be a rogue Wakanda agent who stole one of those magic purple flowers and turned it into a drug that gave him super powers. However someone at Disney put the kibosh on it and Bushwacker became a Jamaican who got powers from a guy who injected him with vitamins when he was a kid.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

That's debatable, though.

Yes, those shows may have effectively claimed to be part of the MCU, and incorporated elements of it into the their plot, but it's very much a relationship that flows one way. From the perspective of the films, the Netflix series essentially don't exist.

The same applies to Agents of SHIELD, which was even more blatantly tied into the MCU. The Marvel film division has flat out said as far as they're concerned, Agents of SHIELD wasn't really canon.

Basically, from the beginning, there was a lot of behind the scenes tension between Marvel Studios (the film division) and Marvel Television (the TV division). It's really only now that Marvel Studios has entirely taken over Marvel Television's production that they're working on integrating Disney+ shows into the MCU more significantly (hence the multiple shows revolving around film characters).

I do tend to use MCU and Earth-199999 interchangeably. Also, canonicity is always in relation to something else and the way the Marvel Multiverse works, there is little officially Marvel that is non-canon.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The films never acknowledge that the show exists in any way. Nothing that originated in the show ever make it back into the films.

At the very least 1 character has.

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