Board 8 > Coronavirus topic 7: Biohazard

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

Getting unemployment now. Everything seems stable around here. Just chilling at home. Any truth to the quarantine ending in May?

Depends on your governor.

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Jesus really? I live in South Carolina so probably May. Is that a good idea to open so soon?

You're lucky South Carolina shut down any at all.
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PerfectChaosZ posted...

Jesus really? I live in South Carolina so probably May. Is that a good idea to open so soon?

No.

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

Jesus really? I live in South Carolina so probably May. Is that a good idea to open so soon?

No, it's a terrible idea to reopen (especially for states like SC that just recently closed). To safely reopen we need the capability to test everyone with symptoms, get the results back very quickly (within a day or so), and track down the contacts of positive cases to have them isolate. We don't have that capability anywhere right now, and because Trump is passing the buck states are going to have to figure it out themselves (probably led by CA/NY). I'd be very surprised if any states were able to safely open up before mid May, and even that's optimistic (and it would certainly not be all of them).

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Nobody knows if it is a good idea or not until it is done and it can be compared to those who shut down and those who didn't decades from now with full data sets.

It is likely not the best idea unless it can be coupled with fundamental differences in how people operate day to day.

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@StartTheMachine

I just turned 32 a week ago. I'm in pretty good shape/health but I am prone to throat infections for whatever reason. I have had strep enough times that I probably should have gotten a tonsilectomy at some point as a preventative measure.

My experience with the sore throat was similar to yours though. I've had strep so many times that I can usually tell when it's coming, and with COVID I felt like I hit step 1 ten times in a week. I would all of a sudden have a mildly sore throat, then it would disappear after a few hours, then come back 12-24 hours later. It never progressed past mild discomfort though. I'm not sure if that is typical of COVID but it's worth noting that I had a similar disappearing/reappearing sore throat I guess. It's probably just irritation from particularly bad bouts of coughing and I never noticed the correlation.

And yeah, I've had quite a bit of caffeine in quarantine. Partly because I've read it can help with headaches without resorting to polluting your body with a ton of painkillers, and partly because I simply like coffee/tea. I'm not sure if I'm addicted to caffeine but I drink multiple cups of coffee per day. I've been trying to drink a ton of water as well though.

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If people wanna see what no shut downs looks like and what it does, keep an eye on Sweden. They have opted to just do nothing and be done with this as fast as possible

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yeah, sweden is the control group.
in terms of things they may hide/not accurately report: infections and deaths in the no go zones. those already have minimal police force, are cramped, and they should be hit the hardest due to income and religion.

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It's interesting to see the mood change in our city after the governor extended the stay at home order. A lot of people are coming out of the woodwork to protest the stay at home order.

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guffguy89 posted...

It's interesting to see the mood change in our city after the governor extended the stay at home order. A lot of people are coming out of the woodwork to protest the stay at home order.

This has less to do with any action and more to do with far right groups spending significant amounts of money to encourage people to protest.

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red13n posted...

This has less to do with any action and more to do with far right groups spending significant amounts of money to encourage people to protest.

Doubt it. People are simply restless.

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Yeah I see people in my state starting to get pissed about this whole stay at home order and were like one of the most liberal states

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The interesting part about closing down bars and clubs and small business is that all the under the table workers are pretty fucked right now. Can't claim UE, can't make money.

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@SavageInTheBox

Your sore throat experience matches mine to a T. On top of everything I mentioned earlier, it also never progressed beyond a mild nuisance. And I didn't really have any cough or cold whatsoever to go with it, which also never happens. The fact that there was no cough made me think covid was very unlikely at the time, but I couldn't get over the bizarre on and off nature of the whole thing.

I started developing a cough a tiny bit earlier today but it's hardly been noticeable, and at least right now I don't have a fever. Been feeling better most of today but still having uncomfortable chest pressure. I also ended up having about half of an energy drink earlier and it pretty much had no effect. So maybe the caffeine I drank at work before almost passing out really didn't have anything to do with it. I supplemented the energy drink with water as well and have been drinking water nonstop. I basically do that anyway so it's not much of a nuisance for me.

It's right around now that the chest pains get bad every night so we'll see if that continues to be the case.


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0 cases in my city today fuck yes

handsomeboy2012 posted...

0 cases in my city today fuck yes

Yet

Of course it doesn't mean there won't be any tomorrow, but it's a good start!

Some redditor did some absolutely amazing research on a lot of the protests for stay at home being one guy from Jacksonville drumming up like 12 different sites in 12 different states. Astro turf all day baby.

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For all the flak that Florida gets, looking up the county I'm in and the 5 counties bordering it we are only at 2600 cases, 58 deaths. Which for 4 millions people seems pretty low.

Wait I'm confused. Is the sore throat the first symptom, and then you have two weeks of that until terrible virus time? Or is it two weeks of "nothing" and then terrible virus time.

I guess I'm asking do I need to wait four weeks to see if I have any real symptoms?

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You hate to see it

Life comes at you fast

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I had nothing but a cough and occasional sore throat for two weeks before I started getting debilitating body and headaches. I had occasional shortness of breath during those two weeks but it was exertion triggered...like I live in a 4th floor walkup and would be winded by the time I reached my door. I never got it from just sitting around.

Like I said though, of all the people I know that have had it, I don't know anybody who had the exact same symptoms. There are 8-10 and everybody seems to have a random selection of three or four of them. One guy I know got tested because his wife had it and tested positive and the only symptom he had was losing his sense of taste.

My symptoms were bizarre and never consistent. At some point or another I had dry cough, diarrhea, sore throat, headaches, body aches. I vomited a bit too but that was more from the pain of the headaches I think.

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I guess what I'm asking as a guy who has lived his entire life with a tickle in the back of his throat, how far back can I look and say "oh I guess I didnt get corona that day"

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SantaRPidgey posted...

I guess what I'm asking as a guy who has lived his entire life with a tickle in the back of his throat, how far back can I look and say "oh I guess I didnt get corona that day"

Just ride it out.
People out here so paranoid everything is a symptom now.

Thanks gamer man your words have reassured me

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SantaRPidgey posted...

Thanks gamer man your words have reassured me

Anytime my friend I am here for the community

Forgive me for what might be a stupid question, but how are antibody tests going to work logistically unless there's enough for everyone? Say I take one and it shows that I am recovered now, but previously had COVID-19. That's great, but for all I know I was contagious up until last week, so I would have to tell my landlords, who I live above, and they would need to get tested too, since they could be weeks away from developing serious symptoms. And then if they get the same result, they would have to reach out to anyone they might have been in contact with. If I worked at an essential business, even in a very limited fashion, over the last several weeks, then everyone there would have to get tested as well, and so on and so forth. I just don't see any way that this doesn't end up spilling over capacity.

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lmao crude oil. holy fuck.

i mean.
i guess we all know what to invest in.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/oil-drops-to-18-year-low-on-global-demand-crunch-storage-woes

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Now hearing that all schools are cancelled now.

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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3580524

If more comes out on ivermectin, I won't be surprised by stories of people taking their dog's heart worm medicine. The FDA has apparently already issued an advisory against that.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Some redditor did some absolutely amazing research on a lot of the protests for stay at home being one guy from Jacksonville drumming up like 12 different sites in 12 different states. Astro turf all day baby.

Apparently it was actually an anti-protest guy poaching the URLs:

https://twitter.com/alibreland/status/1252037486295031808?s=21

The reporter notes in a followup that there is astroturfing with the protests, just not in that particular case

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?s=19

well damn

this is a bad time to be dating a canadian taiwanese person, I'm going to have to wait 4 years to make her an american citizen

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the Gates Foundation, WHO and Wuhan Institute of Virology are all hacked.
this includes databases and emails.

shit's about to get real, fast, on anything behind the scenes there. looks like we're in the week of finding out what involvement labs had.


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dont know that anything is hacked beyond login database. So might not get real. People are just logging into various gmail/hotmail/whatever accounts.

As usual whenever a database of passwords leaked, most of these are facepalm worthy and horribly unsecure.

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i'm most curious about how many government agencies were anonymously involved in this.


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my country is #14 now on the list of countries with the most cases.

after several days when we had between about 1000-1200 news cases a day, today we only have about 700 new cases. nice slight decrease.

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So wait, SHOULD you be investing in oil right now since the price is super low, on the assumption it will bounce back and make you some Big Bucks????

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I mean, under the impression that we'll get back to business as usual at some point you'd assume people will start driving en masse again.

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depends on how much you want to lose.
if you invest right now, expect short term losses for the potential of eventually making money.
if you invest later, expect a smarter use of money but you're paying attention to markets and movements.

there's no guarantee as to where the bottom is so it's back to the usual adage: only invest as much as you're willing to lose. if places do start opening up at the end of this month/start of next month, oil consumption will go up extremely fast and thus, prices will go up. if places don't/people don't go to work, it won't, so prices will still be shit.

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FFDragon posted...

I mean, under the impression that we'll get back to business as usual at some point you'd assume people will start driving en masse again.

Assume there will be enough people to drive en masse again

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Ok, I get it. We can assume sometime in the future oil prices will go back up, but in the short term they may fall even more. So if you do invest, like you said it should be an amount your are comfortable with losing and never seeing again.

I think I might be in over my head here, Ive never invested before lol. Just a thought I had..

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SantaRPidgey posted...

Assume there will be enough people to drive en masse again

Nice pessimism.
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Apparently it was actually an anti-protest guy poaching the URLs:

https://twitter.com/alibreland/status/1252037486295031808?s=21

The reporter notes in a followup that there is astroturfing with the protests, just not in that particular case

I'm absolutely shocked that a Redditor LARPing as Sherlock Holmes ended with harassment, disinformation and all-around embarrassment. I'm floored, blown away and quite possibly bamboozled.

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i feel like its never a good time when reddit tries to play detective. remember the whole Boston bomber fiasco...yikes


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all events in my country cancelled until 9/1.

...ok, i'm not joining the muffin/sephyg camp by any means, but this is the first time during this pandemic when i think my government is maybe being a tad hysterical? as of right now, 0.2% of dutch people have the virus, the number of people with the virus has been decreasing for awhile, and we were obviously going to continue with an "intelligent lockdown" for awhile anyway. i'm not so sure getting rid of all events for the entire summer/destroying the economy over this is the wise decision to make.

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Ryokles posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1251496378372632577

this will end well

there's an update to this story.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/de-blasios-social-distancing-tip-line-flooded-with-obscenities/
De Blasios social distancing tip line flooded with penis photos, Hitler memes

"Whoops."
Who could have seen this coming?
my fave part's towards the end:

An NYPD source said that dick pic photos of real penises have also been texted to 311, and a caller phoned in a tip that de Blasio was seen performing oral sex on someone in an alleyway behind a 7-11 early Sunday.

He looked at meand coofed in my direction, the caller said, according to a photo of the 311 operators computer screen provided to The Post.

=(
that poor caller. hope (s?)he's okay.

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