Current Events > We all liked Michael Jackson at some point, didn't we?

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Cotton_Eye_Joe
04/21/20 4:47:27 AM
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Yep, we did.

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daddychomsky
04/21/20 4:50:15 AM
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After watching that documentary that came out last year I bawled so hard coz I loved MJ a lot but I cant deny the things he did, guy was absolutely evil.
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Lordgold666
04/21/20 4:51:24 AM
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Fuck yeah

I like the 8bit covers on his genesis game

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malenz
04/21/20 4:51:42 AM
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I still like his older stuff, ya know before he started to look all weird and shit.

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Rika_Furude
04/21/20 4:52:23 AM
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daddychomsky posted...
After watching that documentary that came out last year I bawled so hard coz I loved MJ a lot but I cant deny the things he did, guy was absolutely evil.
I havent seen any documentary, what has he done that has been proven?

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daddychomsky
04/21/20 4:55:18 AM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Still do, fav artist of all time and NOT a child molester. Still, a powerful man who could get what he wanted and abused that power to basically emotionally hold children hostage from their parents
He was absolutely guilty of being a child molester.

https://www.mjfacts.com/

This website has a TON of research into the subject with a lot of very well documented stuff, like evidence they found at his house like the "art books", statements from the accusers, debunking a lot of the claims defenders of MJ use.

Its really painful and I absolutely adored him and still long for that but I had to face the painful reality that is that he was also an abuser with some serious narcissism.
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DrizztLink
04/21/20 4:57:33 AM
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daddychomsky
04/21/20 4:58:14 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
He made Thriller.

Thriller.
Off The Wall was better tbh
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cjsdowg
04/21/20 4:58:31 AM
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daddychomsky posted...
After watching that documentary that came out last year I bawled so hard coz I loved MJ a lot but I cant deny the things he did, guy was absolutely evil.

That doc was literally full of a lies, and people have proven it was full of lies.

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DrizztLink
04/21/20 4:58:53 AM
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daddychomsky posted...
Off The Wall was better tbh
Technically my favorite is Billy Jean but I'm making a reference my dude

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pinky0926
04/21/20 5:00:27 AM
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The fact that one of his kids (you know, one of the five who said he was an abuser) could accurately draw the vitiligo markings on the underside of his penis should say a lot to anyone, really

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daddychomsky
04/21/20 5:15:31 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
That doc was literally full of a lies, and people have proven it was full of lies.
What are some of the main arguments against it?

I tend to believe accusers rather than trying to pick them apart. And this is a case where its just so obvious once you take off the rose tinted glasses. He was also a total misogynist and narcissist and obvious pedo but because he was so charismatic and powerful and was super talented noone wants to believe what he did was wrong coz theyve been sucked into the same idolisation.
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AirFresh
04/21/20 5:16:55 AM
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I still love his music.

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jumi
04/21/20 5:19:04 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
The fact that one of his kids (you know, one of the five who said he was an abuser) could accurately draw the vitiligo markings on the underside of his penis should say a lot to anyone, really

Bullshit.

A cop asked him to describe the penis (not draw it), and he said Michael had vitilago marks on his penis (correct) and that he was circumcised (incorrect).

So no, he didn't describe it correctly, and he damn sure didn't draw it.

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daddychomsky
04/21/20 5:27:50 AM
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jumi posted...
Bullshit.

A cop asked him to describe the penis (not draw it), and he said Michael had vitilago marks on his penis (correct) and that he was circumcised (incorrect).

So no, he didn't describe it correctly, and he damn sure didn't draw it.
but erect penises can look circumcised to a lot of folk, especially given the fact HE WAS A CHILD

I just dont understand this mindset at all. Like do folk just not understand how trauma impacts the brain? Especially sexual trauma. People always want a "perfect victim" and if there's any "inconsistencies" people just want to be like "theyre a liar!!".

I definitely think that kids dad was an abuser, he even got himself legally emancipated from his parents quite young because of this abuse. But also people use this as a way of being like "well obviously the kid was lying coz his dad made him" but that doesnt mean that. If anything it just speaks volumes because it means that this kids parents just didnt give a crap and allowed their kid to be in that situation coz of their own selfishness and being groomed by MJ's fame themselves and wanting to be part of that.

https://www.mjfacts.com/psychiatric-interview-with-jordie-chandler/amp/

This is the transcript of the interview Jordan Chandler had with the psychiatrist. Just as a warning it's really disturbing but there's so much stuff in here thats just... if it was "rehearsed" itd be so specific and strange?
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Biscotti
04/21/20 5:28:50 AM
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no, never.

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BettyWhite
04/21/20 5:29:34 AM
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It's easy to say that no music star will ever be as big as Michael Jackson was.

Especially given how varied music is nowadays.


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CreepySmile
04/21/20 5:31:14 AM
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never was a fan of anything of his really

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Oderus Urungus
04/21/20 5:31:46 AM
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04/21/20 6:20:43 AM
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cjsdowg
04/21/20 6:29:13 AM
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daddychomsky posted...
What are some of the main arguments against it?

I tend to believe accusers rather than trying to pick them apart. And this is a case where its just so obvious once you take off the rose tinted glasses. He was also a total misogynist and narcissist and obvious pedo but because he was so charismatic and powerful and was super talented noone wants to believe what he did was wrong coz theyve been sucked into the same idolisation.

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/leaving-neverland-accused-of-key-discrepancy-michael-j-1833782839

If you ever get accused of something I hope you keep that mindset and just go to jail even if didn't do it.

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LampChop
04/21/20 6:52:24 AM
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Still do. Bad > Dangerous > Thriller
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Scotty_Rogers
04/21/20 6:55:08 AM
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@daddychomsky is right on the money. That website he linked to is mostly a great source on this.

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AlisLandale
04/21/20 6:55:35 AM
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I really liked that one posthumous album he had.

Blue Gangster is awesome

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daddychomsky
04/21/20 6:56:10 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/leaving-neverland-accused-of-key-discrepancy-michael-j-1833782839

If you ever get accused of something I hope you keep that mindset and just go to jail even if didn't do it.
its highly unlikely ill get accused of molesting children because I dont do that and I also dont share my bed with children who arent my own
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rexcrk
04/21/20 7:02:17 AM
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Still do. A lot of his songs are

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Freeney
04/21/20 7:08:12 AM
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daddychomsky posted...
Off The Wall was better tbh

And Bad was better than both.

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LampChop
04/21/20 7:21:36 AM
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I absolutely adore Jam. Sonic may have to do with some of that, but it's just so 90's, and fun.
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El Mexicano Texano
04/21/20 12:43:01 PM
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Not a fan of that type of music at all, sorry.

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Freeney
04/21/20 12:47:15 PM
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No need to be sorry that you cant appreciate good music.

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gatorsPENSbucs
04/21/20 12:49:14 PM
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Did and still do

daddychomsky posted...
Off The Wall was better tbh

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twitterfriends
04/21/20 12:52:52 PM
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I think he was innocent but creepy, like inviting kids to your house is creepy but he didn't do it to molest them he did it because he really did enjoy giving and making kids play and being happy probably because his childhood was really messed up. And regardless of what you think he is is still the greatest musical artist of all time.

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El Mexicano Texano
04/21/20 12:58:32 PM
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Freeney posted...
No need to be sorry that you cant appreciate good music.

If anything Jackson 5 was good music Michael Jackson not really...I don't like his genre at all.

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DrizztLink
04/21/20 1:01:18 PM
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twitterfriends posted...
I think he was innocent but creepy, like inviting kids to your house is creepy but he didn't do it to molest them he did it because he really did enjoy giving and making kids play and being happy probably because his childhood was really messed up. And regardless of what you think he is is still the greatest musical artist of all time.
I always saw it as that he basically was a child.

Like, his life was fucked and he never really grew past being Jackson 5 Michael mentally or emotionally.

Massive case of arrested development.

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KyerWiz
04/21/20 1:07:42 PM
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Awesome music. Probably did it.

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Knowledge_King
04/21/20 11:18:28 PM
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Still do

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Damn_Underscore
04/21/20 11:29:36 PM
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Thriller is better than the others tbh because it is consistently great. Thriller has 6 songs that would be #1 hits on most other albums, the other two + Dangerous can't match that.
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Gamerguymass
04/21/20 11:30:16 PM
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daddychomsky posted...
After watching that documentary that came out last year I bawled so hard coz I loved MJ a lot but I cant deny the things he did, guy was absolutely evil.

You mean the documentary that was pulled from tv because even HBO realized that the guys accusing him kept changing their story and were full of shit?

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MabusIncarnate
04/21/20 11:32:01 PM
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Thriller is still probably the best music video ever created. I wasn't a fan, but respect what he did.

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Damn_Underscore
04/21/20 11:32:27 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Yes but Thriller has The Girl Is Mine


So?

Decent song
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JBaLLEN66
04/21/20 11:35:58 PM
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Unpopular opinion: I don't like the song Thriller

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RustyFerret
04/21/20 11:36:42 PM
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The response to that documentary shows how easy it is to manipulate people into believing anything just because they watched a TV special.
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-Unowninator-
04/21/20 11:37:02 PM
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Never have, never will

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KillerKhan420
04/21/20 11:38:11 PM
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If you were a kid in the 80s you loved MJs music for sure.

You ever see any of Dick Gregory's interviews near the end of his life? Hilarious shit. Michael was killer by a laser at 3 in the morning! Tell my grandma!

https://youtu.be/VpypmMXikZM

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Damn_Underscore
04/21/20 11:38:40 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Pretty awful and had no business being on an album like Thriller



Not really.

The Lady in my Life is a worse song on the album.
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