Poll of the Day > So why is the coronavirus a concern when over 99% of people don't have it?

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I dont get it.

No. You don't.

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MartianManchild posted...

I dont get it.

clearly

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You'll care when your grandparents get it and die.

Media hype. Hospitals geared up for the influx that didn't happen, on the other hand, places ripe for Legionnaires Disease, cruise ships and nursing homes, got coronavirus instead. SARS-2, worse than the original 2003 SARS epidemic, not as bad as ordinary seasonal flu. So now they're padding "Coronavirus" statistics with people who test negative and calling it "coronavirus-related". It's enough to make you swear off the fantasyland the media calls "news".

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dancer62 posted...

Media hype. Hospitals geared up for the influx that didn't happen, on the other hand, places ripe for Legionairres Disease, cruise ships and nursing homes, got coronavirus instead. SARS-2, worse than the original 2003 SARS epidemic, not as bad as ordinary seasonal flu. So now they're padding "Coronavirus" statistics with people who test negative and calling it "coronavirus-related". It's enough to make you swear off the fantasyland the media calls "news".

how many times are you going to post this bullshit

i remember reading something at the start of all this that was along the lines of if we do this right, people will say we overreacted. if we dont, a shit ton of people will die.


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dancer62 posted...

Media hype. Hospitals geared up for the influx that didn't happen, on the other hand, places ripe for Legionnaires Disease, cruise ships and nursing homes, got coronavirus instead. SARS-2, worse than the original 2003 SARS epidemic, not as bad as ordinary seasonal flu. So now they're padding "Coronavirus" statistics with people who test negative and calling it "coronavirus-related". It's enough to make you swear off the fantasyland the media calls "news".

How many people have died from flu this year?
How many people died from coronavirus this year?

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Because of the literal nature of how viruses work. Especially since this can be passed between at the time asymptomatic people.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

how many times are you going to post this bullshit

i remember reading something at the start of all this that was along the lines of if we do this right, people will say we overreacted. if we dont, a shit ton of people will die.

The other problem is that its symptoms are so similar to the flu that many think that they have the flu when it's really Covid-19. After all there's now evidence that Covid was going around in the US in December of 2019, months before the first case in the US was officially diagnosed but the people who had it thought that it was the flu. If that's true, there's no way to know who might've been exposed to it and who wasn't since people can exhibit no symptoms and pass it along to someone who's vulnerable such as those with compromised immune systems (not all of those are elderly either).

Flu deaths annually US: 12,000 to 61,000
Flu deaths annually worldwide: 290,000 to 650,000

COVID-19 deaths so far US: 58,033
COVID-19 deaths so far worldwide: 214,000

Keep in mind that it's only April, and the first reported death in the US was in February so that's 58,000 deaths in under 3 months.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

i remember reading something at the start of all this that was along the lines of if we do this right, people will say we overreacted. if we dont, a s*** ton of people will die.

Eeyup. Every public health crisis is the same: Crisis emerges, a response is mounted to it that may or may not directly impact the public, the crisis passes, and then people complain about how much of an overreaction the response was because it wasn't a big deal, oblivious to the fact that the only reason it wasn't a big deal is because of the hard work and sacrifices of countless public health workers. The concept of cause and effect is lost on some people.

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why do conservatives only care about human life when it's inside of another person and useless to everybody around it

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dancer62 posted...

not as bad as ordinary seasonal flu

Thanks Grandma.


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Zangulus posted...

Literally dont know what youre talking about, so maybe you should sit in a corner and stop talking.

Hint: Look at more than just the death statistics. The neurological, hepatic, and respiratory complications that are not going away that the flu doesnt even come close to causing.

Not to mention that even the most conservative death estimate of 2% is still 20 times worse than the seasonal flu.

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Because they can very easily catch it and die from it.

captpackrat posted...

Flu deaths annually US: 12,000 to 61,000
Flu deaths annually worldwide: 290,000 to 650,000

COVID-19 deaths so far US: 58,033
COVID-19 deaths so far worldwide: 214,000

Keep in mind that it's only April, and the first reported death in the US was in February so that's 58,000 deaths in under 3 months.

And that's with unprecented social distancing measures.

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faramir77 posted...

And that's with unprecented social distancing measures.

And that worldwide figure is taking China's stats at face value, which almost certainly means it's significantly lower than the real numbers.

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faramir77 posted...

And that's with unprecented social distancing measures.

And also, like was already mentioned, COVID causes far more harm to people's respiratory, neurological, and cardiovascular systems that the flu just doesn't do. For every person dying from this virus, there are more who have suffered damage which looks likely to effect their health for years and years to come.

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I think the news was saying 95% of people who tested positive in my state had no symptoms the other night which sounds plausible based on my understanding.

adjl posted...

And that worldwide figure is taking China's stats at face value, which almost certainly means it's significantly lower than the real numbers.

Oh ya know theyve been lying about the numbers.

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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...

Oh ya know theyve been lying about the numbers.

Everyone knows they have.

Lil69Leo posted...

Everyone knows they have.

Exactly. Which is why they need to have it pointed out at every opportunity.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

I think the news was saying 95% of people who tested positive in my state had no symptoms the other night which sounds plausible based on my understanding.

I believe thats of people suspected to have the virus as a whole, not just people who have tested positive, because the death rate of people who have tested positive is more than 5% so that is definitely not true. But probably the majority of people who have it haven't been tested because its generally the symptomatic people who are being tested in the first place.

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It's almost as though the transmission of the disease which spreads via proximity was stymied by social distancing.

Over 2% of my town has already been officially diagnosed. Probably close to 20% were infected on some level.

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MartianManchild posted...

I dont get it.

Firewerx posted...

No. You don't.

this. TCs name checks out.

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madadude posted...

I believe thats of people suspected to have the virus as a whole, not just people who have tested positive, because the death rate of people who have tested positive is more than 5% so that is definitely not true. But probably the majority of people who have it haven't been tested because its generally the symptomatic people who are being tested in the first place.

The governor ordered a bunch of people be tested recently, all the staff at retirement homes at the very least.

CaptainStrong posted...

You'll care when your grandparents get it and die.

Jokes on you, all 4 of my grandparents are already dead!

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faramir77 posted...

And that's with unprecented social distancing measures.

Bingo

MartianManchild posted...

I dont get it.

You really dusted off an alt for THIS crap? Get some better material.
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shadowsword87 posted...

How many people have died from flu this year?
How many people died from coronavirus this year?

Depends on where you get your stats I guess. Ive seen more than a few sources saying if someone dies of X reason, but its found that they have C-Virus, it also gets tallied with the C-Virus deaths.

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Where did dancer go?

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Sarcasthma posted...

Where did dancer go?

Playing Forza, hoping I can teach golf in June. And social isolating, masking, and handwashing, even though current random testing shows that 30% of us in various low risk/low exposure areas already have SARS-2 antibodies and are asymptomatic, regardless of precautions.

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dancer62 posted...

Playing Forza, hoping I can teach golf in June. And social isolating, masking, and handwashing, even though current random testing shows that 30% of us in various low risk/low exposure areas already have SARS-2 antibodies and are asymptomatic, regardless of precautions.

Thanks, but shouldn't you be responding to all of those other people first?

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According to our governor, 25 million of us in the state may get it before the end of May.. so yeah, plenty to worry about ._.


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Sarcasthma posted...

Thanks, but shouldn't you be responding to all of those other people first?

Taking Mark Twain's advice.

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dancer62 posted...

Taking Mark Twain's advice.

His advice about keeping your mouth closed, right?

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dancer62 posted...

And social isolating, masking, and handwashing

So you're aware enough to follow procedure in protecting yourself and others from it but continue to downplay it? Interesting take there.


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Sarcasthma posted...

His advice about keeping your mouth closed, right?

Whichever. He had lots of good advice.

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for someone who's supposed to be in their 80s or some shit, you sure are real cavalier about something that would assuredly kill you were you to contract it

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Bulbasaur posted...

for someone who's supposed to be in their 80s or some shit, you sure are real cavalier about something that would assuredly kill you were you to contract it

73, and I have much better chances of winning millions in the lottery. Do the math. 28 in 2.5 million in this region.

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i feel bad for TC...

how naive can you be?

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timmyyoo posted...

i feel bad for TC...

how naive can you be?

TC is a gimmick account.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

TC is a gimmick account.

ah. makes sense.

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dancer62 posted...

I have much better chances of winning millions in the lottery. Do the math.

yikes

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dancer62 posted...

73, and I have much better chances of winning millions in the lottery. Do the math. 28 in 2.5 million in this region.

except that the odds of winning the lottery doesnt grow exponentially, while this does.

so no, your shitty reasoning is shitty.

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Bulbasaur posted...

except that the odds of winning the lottery doesnt grow exponentially, while this does.

Or shrink exponentially, as is happening now. 3 more cases today, 2.5 mil population.


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dancer62 posted...

Or shrink exponentially, as is happening now. 3 more cases today, 2.5 mil population.

yeah, it's not shrinking, it's literally only growing.

the issue is that there's a severe lack of actual reliable testing devices still.

and the ones that are supposed to be reliable, still aren't. there's tons of false negatives. you could ask several countries all about that, too, if you wanted.

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i also don't know where you're getting that there's only 3 new cases.

there's over 20,000 new cases, just today.

and the day barely even started.

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