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OffTempo
05/14/20 12:47:14 AM
#401:


So you finished the main series? Thoughts?

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mehmeh1
05/14/20 12:54:41 AM
#402:


Tbh, I wish they did more with Lars' space adventures. The ending if "your mother and mine" seemed like it was leading into an arc

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/14/20 12:55:14 AM
#403:


Overall, my impressions?

POSITIVES

Excellent representations of a number of mental health issues that our society faces today. Everyone from the villains to the heroes all face issues that are allegories (or straight up representations) of mental health issues and social issues.

The animation and ESPECIALLY the music were excellent.

The narrative was very well done. I felt like I could kinda guess at things in a vague way but couldn't ever piece it ALL together, but it makes sense.

Beyond a couple of moments here and there, the characterizations were amazing, and you could see the reasoning as to why they do what they did. Even Pearl at one point not saving Steven... she at that point was not wanting anything to do with Steven and actively was kinda wanting him to go away.

NEGATIVES

The 5th season felt a little padded and aimless at times to me.

A lot of the fight scenes felt a little... saturday morning cartoon-ish? In comparison to something like Avatar the Last Airbender which had amazing fight choreography and stunning combat. I realize that combat was not the main focus, since Steven is all about talking through things and being defensive, but the series showed with Connie and Pearl that it could focus on some really impressive choreography and chose not to fairly often.

The final conflict felt a little lackluster. I know it wasn't supposed to be a big fight sequence or anything, but still felt lackluster. Again, compared to something like Avatar TLA which had amazing final conflicts but ultimately had a pacifist character fight and win within that scope.

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Vultis_Zales
05/14/20 1:00:04 AM
#404:


Are you going to watch the movie?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/14/20 1:17:31 AM
#405:


My wife and I intend on watching the movie and then Future. However, it is too late here to do the movie right now.

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mehmeh1
05/14/20 1:26:28 AM
#406:


Just one thing in case you're not aware: The movie is a musical, so you'll have a lot of songs

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DarkChozoGhost
05/14/20 2:00:23 AM
#407:


"Stop. Stop it Blue. Stop using your power on me."

"I'm not."

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/14/20 1:02:15 PM
#408:


I guess the other thing that has me feeling a little underwhelmed is there was no resolution to the whole... galactic tyrants thing.

They literally destroy other planets to grow Gems. Whether or not they will continue that is swept under the rug, at least for now.

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mehmeh1
05/14/20 1:06:40 PM
#409:


Yeah, that irked me a lot when I saw the episode. My favorite moment from the episode was Steven's self-fusion

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ElatedVenusaur
05/14/20 1:14:08 PM
#410:


mehmeh1 posted...
Yeah, that irked me a lot when I saw the episode. My favorite moment from the episode was Steven's self-fusion
That bit was animated by Jaaaaames Baxter(the animator and also the horse).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Baxter_(animator)

I remember seeing a rumor somewhere that the execs gave Rebecca Sugar an ultimatum over the wedding(because, unfortunately, two women getting married is still considered controversial in a lot of places CN airs its shows): if she didn't cut it, they wouldn't renew the show, so they had to resolve the show in what was left of the then-current episode order.
You just have to love how devilishly cheeky it was that she switched the gender-coding on Ruby and Sapphire for the actual wedding scene, regardless.

In any case, the ending definitely feels rushed, and the series never quite recovers from it.
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VerisimiIitude
05/14/20 1:15:48 PM
#411:


The movie helped add a bit more of a satisfying ending to the series I think... Like it's easy to understand why the original series went this direction but it felt a little anticlimactic. While it doesn't fix a lot of issues there (namely the build up of the diamonds), it sort of helped add an antagonist that had more of a presence which might've been one of the problems with the final season.

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Questionmarktarius
05/14/20 1:48:02 PM
#412:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
They literally destroy other planets to grow Gems.
What's even the point of doing that, when everyone's immortal?
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IShall_Run_Amok
05/14/20 1:52:07 PM
#413:


Yeah, the biggest flaw with the show is arguably that it ultimately brushes over the whole 'world destroying parasitic empire' thing.

Personally, I dislike Ronald even more than that.

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mehmeh1
05/14/20 1:53:45 PM
#414:


IDK if it's controversial, but tbh I preferred Future's ending over Change Your Mind, it felt more fulfilling to me for some reason.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/14/20 11:33:50 PM
#415:


Saturday maybe I will watch the movie.

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OffTempo
05/15/20 12:11:53 PM
#416:


lets go!

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/15/20 10:12:02 PM
#417:


Gotta make sure this topic is OK

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Phantom_Nook
05/15/20 10:15:22 PM
#418:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Gotta make sure this topic is OK
don't worry, it's bright.

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mehmeh1
05/15/20 10:19:17 PM
#419:


I can't believe we've come so far

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Airhammy
05/15/20 10:27:01 PM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/16/20 7:56:56 PM
#421:


I'm such a liar. Didn't watch today, at least not yet.

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Phantom_Nook
05/16/20 8:37:01 PM
#422:


I've heard that story over and over again.

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Airhammy
05/17/20 4:43:08 AM
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Feline_Heart
05/17/20 4:03:00 PM
#424:


mehmeh1 posted...
I can't believe we've come so far
:)

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/17/20 6:22:20 PM
#425:


Here we are in the future!

2 years later, loving 16 year old Steven. Also interesting to see them quickly gloss over how Steven convinced the Diamonds to stop being universal tyrants.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/17/20 7:03:03 PM
#426:


I'm kinda underwhelmed with Spindle. She is really annoying.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/17/20 7:28:43 PM
#427:


What happened to her sucks, but it is kinda lame motivation to destroy the Earth.

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mehmeh1
05/17/20 7:40:25 PM
#428:


c'mon, nothing about Steg the CHAD?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/17/20 7:43:26 PM
#429:


Steg was definitely awesome.

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Phantom_Nook
05/17/20 7:45:36 PM
#430:


I don't like that he had 4 arms. Stevonnie looked normal, so what's this guys excuse?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/17/20 7:56:14 PM
#431:


Liking that Jasper doesn't just fall into line with life on Earth.

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mehmeh1
05/17/20 7:57:49 PM
#432:


oh, you started future, now let's get into the baggage

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/18/20 12:31:17 AM
#433:


I did start Future for sure. Loved the first episode.

I enjoyed the music of the film, but the narrative felt a little lackluster. I also really didn't like Spindle, or Spinnal, or whatever.

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Phantom_Nook
05/18/20 2:39:41 AM
#434:


Spinel.
Sounds too much like Spinelli from Recess. The ponytails didn't help.
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Questionmarktarius
05/18/20 2:43:30 AM
#435:


More cryptic foreshadowing

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/18/20 6:02:43 PM
#436:


Interesting... if the Gems are working jobs they were kinda programmed for before, are they free to grow?

I get where Steven is coming from, but Amethyst has this.

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Feline_Heart
05/18/20 6:08:04 PM
#437:


Questionmarktarius posted...
More cryptic foreshadowing
Nice lol

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/18/20 6:12:34 PM
#438:


I kinda wonder if the Cluster will be fine or not.

Also, all those Rose-Quartz'

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/18/20 6:40:53 PM
#439:


Steven is throwing tantrums like the old Pink Diamond would...

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mehmeh1
05/18/20 7:24:05 PM
#440:


I like how Steven by now is just done with this

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OffTempo
05/19/20 3:25:48 PM
#441:


Bump

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/20/20 12:21:49 AM
#442:


Watching Why So Blue now.

The second intro for original Stephen Universe is my favorite. Not the biggest fan of Steven Universe Future.

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Questionmarktarius
05/20/20 12:55:31 AM
#443:


Would eight or nine episodes into She-Ra be too late to spin up a "watch-through" thread?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/20/20 1:02:56 AM
#444:


Steven so desperately needs to be needed.

I wonder if that is his own insecurity or something he inherited from Pink.

I mean, she definitely seemed to share that insecurity.

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Phantom_Nook
05/20/20 1:05:49 AM
#445:


He's just used to solving everyone's problems.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/20/20 1:09:00 AM
#446:


Oh God, the episode with Peridot. T_T

I love Peridot so much.

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Questionmarktarius
05/20/20 1:12:44 AM
#447:


Poutine allergy isn't a real thing, is it?
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/20/20 1:15:06 AM
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
05/20/20 1:19:34 AM
#449:


Bismuth wants Pearl? Ohhh my.

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mehmeh1
05/20/20 1:20:27 AM
#450:


We're almost on the endgame

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