Current Events > I just accepted a new job offer.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I've been with the same public accounting firm for the last six years. I got burned out last fall but leaving during busy season (Jan-April) is professional suicide so I've stuck it out the last 4 months.

Now I'm accepting the job to be a controller at a company. The benefits are worse but the pay is better and I'll have much better work life balance. I'll also be working remotely full-time so that will be interesting.

I'm more nervous about leaving my current job than starting a new one. I have a lot of good friends here and me leaving is gonna kneecap some of their summer schedules. But I gotta put me first. They'll understand.

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Whats the job

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Congrats! When are you starting the new job?

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Harpie posted...

Congrats! When are you starting the new job?

June 1st.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

Whats the job

I'll be the controller at the company.

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Lol @ being so unconfident in your skills you consider taking a break "professional suicide".

I quit my job last May, took a year long break, vacationed in Europe and then landed on my feet. When they asked me why the gap in employment, I told them I felt like it and had the savings to keep my head above water.

Grow a pair.

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WarfireX posted...

Lol @ being so unconfident in your skills you consider taking a break "professional suicide".

I quit my job last May, took a year long break, vacationed in Europe and then landed on my feet. When they asked me why the gap in employment, I told them I felt like it and had the savings to keep my head above water.

Grow a pair.

Job market is tough. Nothing to do with skills. Pretty sure you come from privilege as well so it's easier to find a job.

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WarfireX posted...

Lol @ being so unconfident in your skills you consider taking a break "professional suicide".

I quit my job last May, took a year long break, vacationed in Europe and then landed on my feet. When they asked me why the gap in employment, I told them I felt like it and had the savings to keep my head above water.

Grow a pair.

he's talking about leaving in the middle of tax season when they are busiest and leaving his group shorthanded...

grow a brain

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Good job, Gheb

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ScofieldReturns posted...

he's talking about leaving in the middle of tax season when they are busiest and leaving his group shorthanded...

grow a brain

I know what he's talking about and my point still stands. Grow a pair.

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WarfireX posted...

Lol @ being so unconfident in your skills you consider taking a break "professional suicide".

I quit my job last May, took a year long break, vacationed in Europe and then landed on my feet. When they asked me why the gap in employment, I told them I felt like it and had the savings to keep my head above water.

Grow a pair.

That isn't what I meant. In public accounting January through April are busy season. Leaving right before busy season or during busy season is a great way to essentially torch the good will of the firm I just spent the last six years working at. Six, generally enjoyable, professionally invaluable years. I've established professional relationships that I plan to maintain for a long time. That's why I didn't quit right then and there.

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WarfireX posted...

I know what he's talking about and my point still stands. Grow a pair.

that's funny, because your post says something completely different and has a completely unrelated example, LMAO at trying to backtrack your reading incomprehension

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Squall28 posted...

Job market is tough. Nothing to do with skills. Pretty sure you come from privilege as well so it's easier to find a job.

If by privilege you mean I didn't make dumbass decisions like getting a lot of credit debt when I turned 18, or even worse, racking up student loans when I didnt know what I wanted to do with my life.

I got into mortgage at an early age and found out what jobs offer high pay at remote access. I went to community college and am Mexican/Spanish. So fuck off with that privilege nonsense.

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ScofieldReturns posted...

that's funny, because your post says something completely different and has a completely unrelated example, LMAO at trying to backtrack your reading incomprehension

My post speaks directly to his lack of self respect, putting his tie on when he hates his job, telling himself it is something he HAS to do.

But you are probably in the same boat he's in.

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Gheb posted...

That isn't what I meant. In public accounting January through April are busy season. Leaving right before busy season or during busy season is a great way to essentially torch the good will of the firm I just spent the last six years working at. Six, generally enjoyable, professionally invaluable years. I've established professional relationships that I plan to maintain for a long time. That's why I didn't quit right then and there.

Holy fuck you sound like such a sap.

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WarfireX posted...

My post speaks directly to his lack of self respect, putting his tie on when he hates his job, telling himself it is something he HAS to do.

But you are probably in the same boat he's in.

lmao, look at that ad hominem argument

nah, i'm above both of you guys in career with more of a disadvantage growing up, but this ain't about that

i just can't stand people who can't comprehend basic concepts and then attacking others based off those misinterpretations

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I'm sorry for whatever happened to you today that put you is such a poor mood. I hope tomorrow is better.

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Gheb posted...

I'm sorry for whatever happened to you today that put you is such a poor mood. I hope tomorrow is better.

LOL, I took a 2 and a half hour nap while I was on the clock with my new remote job. The one I landed after my year off I rewarded myself because I'm not a chump that sees some sort of honor in corporate life style.

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WarfireX posted...

LOL, I took a 2 and a half hour nap while I was on the clock with my new remote job. The one I landed after my year off I rewarded myself because I'm not a chump that sees some sort of honor in corporate life style.

And you are still this grumpy. That's impressive.

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Nice tc. I'm an accountant myself and might pick your brain on something if you don't mind...

Today is the start of my second week at my new job (jr staff accountant for a midsized company)

My first week was mostly onboarding, training, etc so I didnt get a chance to dig into the systems side until today. Obviously with COVID-19 I've had to do a lot of remote training etc but was still excited to get going.

This morning I logged in and started playing around in the system and familiarizing myself. It didnt take long before I noticed something was very wrong.

I began looking at the day to day transactions, the individual journal entries, and noticed something very strange - the transactions were listed twice.

I thought this must be an error, a one off thing, but sure enough when I checked every journal entry I found the same thing. If the company purchased something, theyd credit one account, but then at the same they would debit another in that same transaction. This went on for millions upon millions of dollars worth of transactions.

I immediately freaked out when i saw this, obviously. I got up from my desk, phoned my boss, and told him I had to log off ASAP because I was feeling very sick. I paced around the room for a bit and then I called the companys anonymous misconduct line and reported what I had found.

Now Im calmed down a bit and I dont know wtf to do. Im debating writing an email to the CFO but Im not sure how complicit he is. Obviously Im going to quit tomorrow (dont want to get wrapped up in this and have my career ruined).

Thoughts?

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Compsognathus posted...

And you are still this grumpy. That's impressive.

Dude is going crazy. Goddamn. His remote job must be some depressing shit.

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Squall28 posted...

Dude is going crazy. Goddamn. His remote job must be some depressing shit.

this is an epic melty, out of nowhere

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

Nice tc. I'm an accountant myself and might pick your brain on something if you don't mind...

Today is the start of my second week at my new job (jr staff accountant for a midsized company)

My first week was mostly onboarding, training, etc so I didnt get a chance to dig into the systems side until today. Obviously with COVID-19 I've had to do a lot of remote training etc but was still excited to get going.

This morning I logged in and started playing around in the system and familiarizing myself. It didnt take long before I noticed something was very wrong.

I began looking at the day to day transactions, the individual journal entries, and noticed something very strange - the transactions were listed twice.

I thought this must be an error, a one off thing, but sure enough when I checked every journal entry I found the same thing. If the company purchased something, theyd credit one account, but then at the same they would debit another in that same transaction. This went on for millions upon millions of dollars worth of transactions.

I immediately freaked out when i saw this, obviously. I got up from my desk, phoned my boss, and told him I had to log off ASAP because I was feeling very sick. I paced around the room for a bit and then I called the companys anonymous misconduct line and reported what I had found.

Now Im calmed down a bit and I dont know wtf to do. Im debating writing an email to the CFO but Im not sure how complicit he is. Obviously Im going to quit tomorrow (dont want to get wrapped up in this and have my career ruined).

Thoughts?

Shit. That's almost certainly fraud. Can you see in the ERP who posted that entry and who approved it? You might need to go over their head and tell their boss, maybe even the CFO that you have discovered fraudulent entries being posted. Before you do that though, get a bunch of evidence and save it on a flash drive and give it to a news station with instructions to review it if they don't hear back from you in one day. That'll be your leverage in case the CFO is also in on it. And remember don't go to HR. HR exist to protect the company, not you.

Good luck.

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I did earlier this month as well.

Congrats!

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ScofieldReturns posted...

this is an epic melty, out of nowhere

Some people just can't help themselves.

BlingBling22947 posted...

I did earlier this month as well.

Congrats!

What did you go into?

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Gheb posted...

Shit. That's almost certainly fraud. Can you see in the ERP who posted that entry and who approved it? You might need to go over their head and tell their boss, maybe even the CFO that you have discovered fraudulent entries being posted. Before you do that though, get a bunch of evidence and save it on a flash drive and give it to a news station with instructions to review it if they don't hear back from you in one day. That'll be your leverage in case the CFO is also in on it. And remember don't go to HR. HR exist to protect the company, not you.

Good luck.

It's a copy pasta :/

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berlyman101 posted...

It's a copy pasta :/

I'm very aware.


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Grats dude.

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Compsognathus posted...

I'm very aware.

ohh ho ho ho!

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Controller? Surely you mean comptroller.

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1337toothbrush posted...

Controller? Surely you mean comptroller.

Same effective position but comptroller is term largely used in governments and non-profits while controller is used in for profit organizations.

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Anything to make the field more exciting/interesting, I guess.

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1337toothbrush posted...

Anything to make the field more exciting/interesting, I guess.

The title really isn't a point of excitement.

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To Op, good on you for leaving public accounting. Hope the grass is greener on the other side. I'm still in big 4 after 10+ years lol. FWIW, leaving to join commercial is a well trodden/typical route - only difference is you're doing it during a very interesting time.

If you've been there six years, I'm assuming you're either a manager or at the very upper end of senior associate (assuming you joined as a grad) meaning you're at the ripe time to leave.

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Compsognathus posted...

I'm more nervous about leaving my current job than starting a new one. I have a lot of good friends here and me leaving is gonna kneecap some of their summer schedules. But I gotta put me first. They'll understand.

I was the same way with most of my jobs but trust me nobody actually cares. Think of how you felt every time somebody left when you were working there. It was pretty much just "eh fuck cool for you" and never any anger or resentment, ya know?

Congrats anyways man


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NoMeLx22x posted...

I was the same way with most of my jobs but trust me nobody actually cares. Think of how you felt every time somebody left when you were working there. It was pretty much just "eh fuck cool for you" and never any anger or resentment, ya know?

Congrats anyways man

Agreed. But that being said there have been a few people over the years who have really burnt bridges with the way they left. Doesn't sound like Op is one of those people though.

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You guys it's different for public accounting. Stop applying your experiences to something completely different.

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Grats and good luck on the new job, TC

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gloBal enemy posted...

To Op, good on you for leaving public accounting. Hope the grass is greener on the other side. I'm still in big 4 after 10+ years lol. FWIW, leaving to join commercial is a well trodden/typical route - only difference is you're doing it during a very interesting time.

If you've been there six years, I'm assuming you're either a manager or at the very upper end of senior associate (assuming you joined as a grad) meaning you're at the ripe time to leave.

Yeah, I've been a manager for two busy seasons now. And it was fine but I'm ramping up for another summer full of EBP engagements which are just soulless and frankly I kind of miss being in the thick of it like I was when I was a senior.

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Drpooplol posted...

You guys it's different for public accounting. Stop applying your experiences to something completely different.

Indeed. It is professional suicide to burn the bridges at that point in time since realistically they won't be able to recruit someone to replace you for that very short timeframe so your colleagues will end up shouldering it.

Gheb posted...

Yeah, I've been a manager for two busy seasons now. And it was fine but I'm ramping up for another summer full of EBP engagements which are just soulless and frankly I kind of miss being in the thick of it like I was when I was a senior.

I'm not familiar with what EBP is (we don't use that acronym here) but it doesn't surprise me - I actually enjoyed being a senior the most as that was the time I used to really get into the detail and had the time to do so. Manager is probably the worst level in terms of expectations/pressures and risk of someone else's mistake becoming your issue.

(edit just saw your signature saying Gheb is alt)

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gloBal enemy posted...

Indeed. It is professional suicide to burn the bridges at that point in time since realistically they won't be able to recruit someone to replace you for that very short timeframe so your colleagues will end up shouldering it.

I'm not familiar with what EBP is (we don't use that acronym here) but it doesn't surprise me - I actually enjoyed being a senior the most as that was the time I used to really get into the detail and had the time to do so. Manager is probably the worst level in terms of expectations/pressures and risk of someone else's mistake becoming your issue.

(edit just saw your signature saying Gheb is alt)

EBP are employee benefit plans. I can't imagine you would do many at Big 4 level but they are very common summer work at my firm (though I personally think we have largely outgrown them). They are boring, low-revenue compliance audits and just no fun at all.

And yeah my account varies depending on what device I'm using.

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Compsognathus posted...

I'll have much better work life balance

This is honestly more important than getting more benefits and pay. I took a new role without knowing I'd get paid as much more as I am, just knowing that the W/L balance will be better.

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