Current Events > 80% of Canadians support a BAN on ASSAULT WEAPONS..even CONSERVATIVES!!

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Full Throttle
05/01/20 8:24:43 PM
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Do you think Trudeau made the right decision?



A strong majority of Canadians back a complete ban on civilians possessing assault style weapons after a man dressed in a police uniform and drove a similar style rcmp car killed 22 people and had a HIT LIST, though some were not on it.

80% polled by the Angus Reid Institute found that 80% of canadians supported the ban which gives a significant strong move for the Liberals to push forward in this mandate as it was also part of their agenda to ban such weapons in their last campaign

The federal government approved a ban of more than 1500 assault style weapons through an order in council as it describes any semi-auto firearms with large magazine ammunitions including the AR-10 and AR-15 where one of them was used in the Nova Scotia shootings and 1989 Montreal Massacre

87% in Quebec, 83% in Nova Scotia were most likely in support followed by British Columbia and Ontario with 78% as Albertans were least likely but still a majority at 65%

NDP and Liberal voters most likely support it while Conservatives oppose a ban on handguns but support assault weapons bans

Justin Trudeau said that he understands hunters needs for firearms but said that they do not need these types of weapons to take down a deer and has called on a buy back program for current owners of these weapons giving them 2 years.

Another graph shows that even HALF of canadians support a ban on ALL GUNS though it is different in each province but the support on ban of all firearms has been growing streadily for years

Do you think Canada made a smart decision?

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refmon
05/01/20 8:25:20 PM
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ban all guns TBH

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Ultima Dragon
05/01/20 8:32:40 PM
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The quicker we can ban guns, the quicker we can go balls deep in fascism.

Come on, baby!

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pepper2012
05/01/20 8:33:32 PM
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I mean ya definitely ban them no one needs an assault rifle
But to think this somehow stops any sort of crime or violence is silly
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Alucard188
05/01/20 8:37:25 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
The quicker we can ban guns, the quicker we can go balls deep in fascism.

Come on, baby!

Like your AR-15 is going to protect you from a tyrannical government.

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Ultima Dragon
05/01/20 8:38:13 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
I mean ya definitely ban them no one needs an assault rifle
But to think this somehow stops any sort of crime or violence is silly

Now now. I'm sure the shooter in Nova Scotia got all his guns through the proper legal channels and had them all licensed and registered.

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Ultima Dragon
05/01/20 8:42:03 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Like your AR-15 is going to protect you from a tyrannical government.

Don't have one. Actually never handled a gun, but I recognize that it's the only thing standing between us and a Chinese style society. The UK is a good reference for what happens when you take guns away.

Could a random hillbilly take on the army? Fuck no. But they're not going to bomb the shit out of our buildings and infrastructure either. Look at what happened with the Vietcongs or Taliban. It's essentially an unwinnable war, and the citizens will not be on the side of the government that's slaying its own people.

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UnfairRepresent
05/01/20 8:44:32 PM
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"Assault Weapons" doesn't mean anything

that's like saying "Ban guns that look scary"

That's what puts me off the anti gun movement, the people proposing the legislation don't know how guns work
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UnfairRepresent
05/01/20 8:45:57 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
d the citizens will not be on the side of the government that's slaying its own people.

Half the nation supports Trump
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pepper2012
05/01/20 8:47:30 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
Now now. I'm sure the shooter in Nova Scotia got all his guns through the proper legal channels and had them all licensed and registered.

We should get all gun owners to sign a contract when they buy a gun that says they cant commit a crime with it
You dont just go out and break legally binding contracts so this could work
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
05/01/20 8:47:51 PM
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They're like, we don't want those American problems

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UnfairRepresent
05/01/20 8:48:58 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...


Now now. I'm sure the shooter in Nova Scotia got all his guns through the proper legal channels and had them all licensed and registered.

So for the record, how do you feel about drug and prostitution laws
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Looked gf
05/01/20 8:50:26 PM
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It's not the US so it'll work

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Garioshi
05/01/20 8:51:58 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"Assault Weapons" doesn't mean anything

that's like saying "Ban guns that look scary"

That's what puts me off the anti gun movement, the people proposing the legislation don't know how guns work
"Fish" doesn't mean anything and yet most people have a good idea of what a fish is

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ScazarMeltex
05/01/20 8:53:30 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
The quicker we can ban guns, the quicker we can go balls deep in fascism.

Come on, baby!
Unfortunately the people with all the guns in the US tend to also be the biggest fucking bootlickers.

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Ivany2008
05/01/20 8:54:26 PM
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I'm of the mindset that no one should own a gun, but be allowed to fire a gun, if that makes any sense. Hunting and Shooting Galleries are fine, but there is no reason to be able to access them outside those channels, and both should be heavily guarded. Hunting should only give you enough ammunition for 1 deer or moose, so maybe 15 rounds at most, though I'm not a hunter, so I don't know if that is too much or not.

Cops should have non-lethal firearms, and but have access to lethal firearms in their vehicles which are in some sort of safe box, unlocked by a code or electronic lock from their precinct.
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Spellcaster
05/01/20 9:00:23 PM
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It's not going to matter if these psychos can just go down south and pick up a gun no questions asked.

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Patchwork
05/01/20 9:02:54 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Like your AR-15 is going to protect you from a tyrannical government.

The prospect of literally fighting an insurgency on your own soil when guerilla warfare has proven effective against your military in multiple wars is a daunting one.

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UnfairRepresent
05/01/20 9:03:44 PM
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Garioshi posted...

"Fish" doesn't mean anything and yet most people have a good idea of what a fish is

Yes but there is no law banning people from carrying squids to prevent people from fishing.

Your point makes no sense.
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CanuckCowboy
05/01/20 9:05:10 PM
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refmon posted...
ban all guns TBH

No thats dumb. Responsible hunting is undeniably the most ethical source for meat.

Also the problem with this ban is that the problem with it takes longer to explain than a give a fuck about. Im not passionate about guns and dont mind registries or bans on certain things but its a pretty shittiky thrown together law all the same

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CanuckCowboy
05/01/20 9:07:09 PM
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Patchwork posted...
The prospect of literally fighting an insurgency on your own soil when guerilla warfare has proven effective against your military in multiple wars is a daunting one.

Yeah.... no.

The idea armed american citizens could pose a relevant resistance should they face their own military is absurd.


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pepper2012
05/01/20 9:08:50 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...

Cops should have non-lethal firearms, and but have access to lethal firearms in their vehicles which are in some sort of safe box, unlocked by a code or electronic lock from their precinct.

That's gunna work out well when they after they bust down a door and realize the perp has a loaded shotgun. They have beanbag guns and now need to run back to their cars and try and punch in a code to grab some real protection out of a safe
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Malcrasternus
05/01/20 9:10:05 PM
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Poor fools.

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Tmaster148
05/01/20 9:10:46 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
Like your AR-15 is going to protect you from a tyrannical government.

If there is one thing we learned. The people advocating about using the 2nd amendment for defending themselves from a tyrannical government are only doing so when a mild inconvenience occurs in the interest of public safety, but things like locking children up in cages or stealing medical supplies are fine.

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008Zulu
05/01/20 9:11:22 PM
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Imagine a country caring about it's citizens!

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E32005
05/01/20 9:11:43 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
The UK is a good reference for what happens when you take guns away.

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SH_expert44
05/01/20 9:11:54 PM
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They should sell these guns to the US. I would love to buy up some cheap rifles.

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Ultima Dragon
05/01/20 9:12:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
So for the record, how do you feel about drug and prostitution laws

I would support both being decriminalized/legalized with some safety restrictions in place. I don't want to get into a whole thing about it though, I realize there's numerous issues with both.

Like, weed being legalized is only a good thing. It's not going to stop people buying from their buddy or local dealer for half what the weed shops charge. But it removes criminal offense for users and people that grow for personal use and gives people product purity and a safer way to partake for those that don't want to engage in the "lifestyle" of meeting up with dealers and such.

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Malcrasternus
05/01/20 9:16:30 PM
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Ivany2008
05/01/20 9:17:24 PM
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pepper2012 posted...
That's gunna work out well when they after they bust down a door and realize the perp has a loaded shotgun. They have beanbag guns and now need to run back to their cars and try and punch in a code to grab some real protection out of a safe

again, not saying its perfect. I'm just saying there needs to be an option that prevents stupid deaths from renegade cops with an itchy trigger finger.
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Ultima Dragon
05/01/20 9:20:13 PM
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E32005 posted...
expound

Everything I've seen points to it being an unlawful total surveillance/nanny state and not a place I would feel free or personally comfortable living in.

I don't live there though, so I could be way off base. But as a Canadian I want to stay as far away from a total surveillance state/social credit type system as I can. Eroding resistance to such a system being implemented pretty much ensures that my worst fears will one day come true.

Laws like these don't keep the guns away from the criminals, just from the average, freedom loving folk.

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apocalyptic_4
05/01/20 9:22:07 PM
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Trudeau even took a shot at trump with "thoughts and prayers are not enough" said multiple times in his speech.

To be Frank I trust the leaders in Canada far more than Americans who only look out for the intrest of large companies.

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Prismsblade
05/01/20 9:29:06 PM
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Full Throttle posted...
Justin Trudeau said that he understands hunters needs for firearms but said that they do not need these types of weapons to take down a deer and has called on a buy back program for current owners of these weapons giving them 2 years.
Nothing beats fucking over thousands of responsible law abiding citizens for the sins of a few.

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Ivany2008
05/01/20 9:57:00 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Nothing beats fucking over thousands of responsible law abiding citizens for the sins of a few.

We aren't talking about shotguns or even bolt action rifles used for hunting. Those are in a class of their own. We are talking about fully automatic, or even semi-automatic weapons created just for war. So a few people have to give up there guns. I'm sure those same people who don't want to give them up are the same people at Wal-Mart taking carts in from outside, despite them not being sanitized to prevent the viral spread.
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SH_expert44
05/01/20 10:01:47 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
We are talking about fully automatic, or even semi-automatic weapons created just for war.
Canadians have easy access to full auto guns?

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Unsugarized_Foo
05/01/20 10:03:36 PM
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Weak people desire strong government

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Ivany2008
05/01/20 10:15:06 PM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Canadians have easy access to full auto guns?

They shouldn't. But I think this is the discussion that was being held today. What guns should the public have access to, and when they should get access to them.
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Dark_Spiret
05/01/20 11:28:53 PM
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banning 200k+ guns which statistically show up in the LEAST amount of gun crime and gun deaths while being a response to an event which didnt involve those kinds of guns while also ignoring that the vast vast vast majority of gun crime are done with illegal guns that get smuggled through the US.

im sure canadians all over are feeling safer already.
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Unsugarized_Foo
05/02/20 12:52:08 AM
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SH_expert44 posted...
Canadians have easy access to full auto guns?

It would be pretty cool

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pepper2012
05/02/20 2:08:48 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Trudeau even took a shot at trump with "thoughts and prayers are not enough" said multiple times in his speech.

To be Frank I trust the leaders in Canada far more than Americans who only look out for the intrest of large companies.

Thoughts and prayers are never enough
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Garioshi
05/02/20 2:41:41 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Yes but there is no law banning people from carrying squids to prevent people from fishing.

Your point makes no sense.
I'm just saying that "assault weapon" having no rigorous definition doesn't mean "assault weapon" isn't a useful term.

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ssjevot
05/02/20 2:53:16 AM
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I think one thing here is he is making it seem like a response to the recent shooting when that shooting didn't involve legally purchased guns. I am not even sure if the type of guns used has been said, but I do know some were stolen from police. It really calls into question the motivation here. Do something to make people feel better without actually researching if that will actually make things better.

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UnfairRepresent
05/02/20 3:57:18 AM
#43:


E32005 posted...


expound

there was a massive surge in knife crime which has been an epidemic too this day

600 knife crimes a day out if an adult population of 40 million
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Jonny2284
05/02/20 4:22:07 AM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
Don't have one. Actually never handled a gun, but I recognize that it's the only thing standing between us and a Chinese style society. The UK is a good reference for what happens when you take guns away.

Guns aren't banned in the UK but thanks for playing.
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UnfairRepresent
05/02/20 4:23:48 AM
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Jonny2284 posted...


Guns aren't banned in the UK but thanks for playing.

he... he didnt say they were
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Jonny2284
05/02/20 4:27:51 AM
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"The UK is a good reference for what happens when you take guns away"

They didn't take the guns away because they aren't banned, you want a gun, you can have a gun. I'm sorry it's apparently a totalitarian dystopia that you can't get a gun at the supermarket.
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Shablagoo
05/02/20 4:28:54 AM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
Could a random hillbilly take on the army? f*** no. But they're not going to bomb the s*** out of our buildings and infrastructure either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

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UnfairRepresent
05/02/20 4:44:36 AM
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Jonny2284 posted...
"The UK is a good reference for what happens when you take guns away"

They didn't take the guns away because they aren't banned, you want a gun, you can have a gun. I'm sorry it's apparently a totalitarian dystopia that you can't get a gun at the supermarket.

They did take guns away

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_the_United_Kingdom#1997_Firearms_(Amendment)_Acts

If aliens came and abducted 80/90% of Earth's children would you go "The aliens didn't take away our children. Look there's still some over there."?

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Mike_Stanton
05/02/20 4:48:08 AM
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If the good guys have less bullets that means the bad guys have more bullets. Come on, leftists! Not that hard.

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KamenRiderBlade
05/02/20 4:49:55 AM
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Anybody can manipulate statistics, I highly doubt their stats are accurate.

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