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Tyranthraxus
05/02/20 3:25:02 PM
#51:


Time_Rider posted...
Can this itself actually be confirmed? I don't take news from Twitter accounts especially ones without that little blue check lol. That could be anyone tweeting this. Mind you, I hope it's true so this thing can be dropped

https://twitter.com/lawalazu/status/1256638699091234817?s=09

https://twitter.com/CallerTime/status/1256646158170107905?s=09

The original story was put up on medium and then later deleted. Looking for an archive now.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/02/20 3:26:05 PM
#52:


Because their policies are slightly superior to Republican policies.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:27:05 PM
#53:


BLAKUboy posted...
https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1256634251845435397


Weird how you cant find anything anywhere online about any of these things happening
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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:27:10 PM
#54:


Tyranthraxus posted...
https://twitter.com/lawalazu/status/1256638699091234817?s=09

https://twitter.com/CallerTime/status/1256646158170107905?s=09

The original story was put up on medium and then later deleted. Looking for an archive now.

Ok, because none of that confirms anything lol. Let me know if you find it

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:27:46 PM
#55:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Weird how you cant find anything anywhere online about any of these things happening

Why do you want Biden to be a rapist so badly? It's weird

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teepan95
05/02/20 3:28:43 PM
#56:


Y'all should've gone for Bernie tbh
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DeadSite
05/02/20 3:29:03 PM
#57:


Time_Rider posted...
Why do you want Biden to be a rapist so badly? It's weird
Why do you assume he's not?

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DezDroppedFreak
05/02/20 3:29:53 PM
#58:


Time_Rider posted...
We objectively are.
Both parties are objectively garbage.

the only difference is one pretends to care about the common people while bowing to their corporate bosses and the other openly doesnt give a shit

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:30:08 PM
#59:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Weird how you cant find anything anywhere online about any of these things happening

Why do you want Biden to be a rapist so badly? It's weird


I would be totally happy if he weren't a rapist actually. Neolibs lying in order to change the narrative (that tweet, Reide's dad's weird sex book, etc.) isn't it.
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hockeybub89
05/02/20 3:30:21 PM
#60:


"Which senile creepy asshole is less of a rapist? The answer is clearly the best American for the job!"

Fuck this place

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:30:47 PM
#61:


DeadSite posted...
Why do you assume he's not?

I don't, anybody who knows my position about this knows I don't give a fuck one way or the other

So do you have a relevant question for me after knowing this or what

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:31:46 PM
#62:


DezDroppedFreak posted...
Both parties are objectively garbage.

the only difference is one pretends to care about the common people while bowing to their corporate bosses and the other openly doesnt give a shit

That's not true at all, actual legislation and supreme court rulings have proved both parties are not the same. That's such a lazy stance

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Umbreon
05/02/20 3:32:13 PM
#63:


teepan95 posted...
Y'all should've gone for Bernie tbh

Oh absolutely.

Still, Dems have the high ground. Regardless of them putting out a significantly worse canidate.

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Tyranthraxus
05/02/20 3:32:23 PM
#64:


Time_Rider posted...
Ok, because none of that confirms anything lol. Let me know if you find it

I found it but I'm not going to bother anymore since this is just going to be a never ending rabbit hole of "this doesn't confirm anything"

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Iodine
05/02/20 3:32:26 PM
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I think Biden did it because he is mad creepy but man I dunno:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1256647402326495233

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:33:24 PM
#66:


Smashingpmkns posted...
I would be totally happy if he weren't a rapist actually. Neolibs lying in order to change the narrative (that tweet, Reide's dad's weird sex book, etc.) isn't it.

The narrative hasn't been changed by anyone at all. This story hasn't really gone anywhere, up or down, since it came out.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:34:20 PM
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Seems like there's a lot of tweets stating the neighbor was coached with absolutely zero sources.
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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:34:38 PM
#69:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I found it but I'm not going to bother anymore since this is just going to be a never ending rabbit hole of "this doesn't confirm anything"

Hahaha, no you didn't. Else you'd just share it. What a shitty excuse. Worst comment in the thread. Is it wrong to say those tweets don't confirm anything? They don't. If you have something from her friend changing her story, fucking share it. Jesus

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:34:55 PM
#70:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I would be totally happy if he weren't a rapist actually. Neolibs lying in order to change the narrative (that tweet, Reide's dad's weird sex book, etc.) isn't it.

The narrative hasn't been changed by anyone at all. This story hasn't really gone anywhere, up or down, since it came out.


Uh yeah it has lmao
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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:36:53 PM
#71:


Iodine posted...
I think Biden did it because he is mad creepy but man I dunno:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1256647402326495233

Finally, some true fucking news about this

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MrMallard
05/02/20 3:37:04 PM
#72:


Because "their guy" still meets the standard that Donald Trump met when he was elected president, with the caveat that he hasn't defended white supremacists as "very fine people", and characterised open white supremacy and the protest of such beliefs as an issue where "both sides are bad".

I don't like this Biden shit as much as the next guy, but if the right want to bitch about this, they need to realise that they're just reaping what they sowed. When Donald Trump was accused of the same thing, they rallied behind him and insisted that the reports were greatly exaggerated or not true at all. Now the DNC is stopping to the same fucking level - which is disgusting to see when they had a perfectly fine candidate ready to go instead of this buffoon - and now the right wants to talk about alleged sexual assault, about suitability for office.

Donald Trump set a precedent for this kind of shit. That's why. This is okay now in the eyes of many

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:37:28 PM
#73:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Uh yeah it has lmao

Uh no it hasn't lmao

How has the narrative been changed, enlighten me. You're the expert here

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IfGodCouldDie
05/02/20 3:40:55 PM
#74:


DeadSite posted...
Why do you assume he's not?
Isnt innocent until proven guilt the whole basis of your justice system?

Also why would you want anyone to be a rapist period? If someone was a rapist that means someone else was raped, it makes no sense to want that to be the case for anyone ever.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:41:28 PM
#75:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Uh yeah it has lmao

Uh no it hasn't lmao

How has the narrative been changed, enlighten me. You're the expert here


Beginning with the neighbor's corroboration and the King call? Have you not been paying attention? Lmao and now the neolibs are fighting extra hard to defame her and make this about how she is crazy, completely relieving all accountability from Biden because one softball interview was enough to satisfy them.
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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:45:01 PM
#76:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Beginning with the neighbor's corroboration and the King call? Have you not been paying attention? Lmao and now the neolibs are fighting extra hard to defame her and make this about how she is crazy, completely relieving all accountability from Biden because one softball interview was enough to satisfy them.

None of those things confirm her allegation at all.

The narrative has not changed. People spamming tweets here on CE doesn't change the narrative lol.

This story is no more or less credible than it was when it came out.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:46:43 PM
#77:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Beginning with the neighbor's corroboration and the King call? Have you not been paying attention? Lmao and now the neolibs are fighting extra hard to defame her and make this about how she is crazy, completely relieving all accountability from Biden because one softball interview was enough to satisfy them.

None of those things confirm her allegation at all.

The narrative has not changed. People spamming tweets here on CE doesn't change the narrative lol.

This story is no more or less credible than it was when it came out.


Not true. Corroborating neighbor&family definitely makes the story more credible, as well as the King call. Denying that is denying reality. That doesn't prove her claim but it adds credibility that she did not have previously.
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Tyranthraxus
05/02/20 3:47:58 PM
#78:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Beginning with the neighbor's corroboration and the King call? Have you not been paying attention? Lmao and now the neolibs are fighting extra hard to defame her and make this about how she is crazy, completely relieving all accountability from Biden because one softball interview was enough to satisfy them.

I'm all for digging up that complaint. Joe Biden himself said go fetch the complaint and make it public.

Now she's saying that she filed a complaint but didn't mention anything about sexual assault in it. Okay, so go fetch that complaint and lets see what she did say.

\_()_/

Nobody seems to want to investigate this except Joe Biden. I wonder why.

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:49:03 PM
#79:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Not true. Corroborating neighbor&family definitely makes the story more credible, as well as the King call. Denying that is denying reality. That doesn't prove her claim but it adds credibility that she did not have previously.

Slightly more credible if that. The King call was kind of a joke, vague as fuck. The narrative has not changed. Still where we were from day one. I know you want him to be guilty, but Jesus.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:51:39 PM
#80:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Not true. Corroborating neighbor&family definitely makes the story more credible, as well as the King call. Denying that is denying reality. That doesn't prove her claim but it adds credibility that she did not have previously.

Slightly more credible if that. The King call was kind of a joke, vague as fuck. The narrative has not changed. Still where we were from day one. I know you want him to be guilty, but Jesus.


No, not slightly. Much more credible lol enough for her story to start getting MSM coverage and to have Biden finally address it wtf you mean "slightly"? The narrative has definitely changed. You ignoring it doesn't matter.

Hell even you went from saying she's lying to saying Biden probably did it but you don't care lmao
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Time_Rider
05/02/20 3:56:14 PM
#81:


Smashingpmkns posted...
No, not slightly. Much more credible lol enough for her story to start getting MSM coverage and to have Biden finally address it wtf you mean "slightly"? The narrative has definitely changed. You ignoring it doesn't matter.

You don't know what credibility means, got it. The story is no more or less believable than it was. Luckily for you I don't have the time to wreck you again for your logic missteps and arguments of fallacy, about to go cycling (how about later?). You just want him to be guilty, so you're giving more credence to certain aspects than they actually deserve.

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Iodine
05/02/20 3:59:26 PM
#82:


Like if there was no mention sexual harassment or assault in the Senate report then Biden opening up his documents is just a waste of time.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 3:59:48 PM
#83:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
No, not slightly. Much more credible lol enough for her story to start getting MSM coverage and to have Biden finally address it wtf you mean "slightly"? The narrative has definitely changed. You ignoring it doesn't matter.

You don't know what credibility means, got it. The story is no more or less believable than it was. Luckily for you I don't have the time to wreck you again for your logic missteps and arguments of fallacy, about to go cycling (how about later?). You just want him to be guilty, so you're giving more credence to certain aspects than they actually deserve.


Sounds like you don't have shit to say and you're falling back it's okay to sit this one out buddy.
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05/02/20 4:01:32 PM
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Doom_Art
05/02/20 4:01:33 PM
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I have no idea why he's so desperately clinging to this idea that Biden raped this woman.

I understand we need to believe all women but I have no idea how you can look at what has happened with Reade and be 100% confident in what you've seen

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Time_Rider
05/02/20 4:02:35 PM
#86:


Smashingpmkns posted...
Sounds like you don't have shit to say and you're falling back it's okay to sit this one out buddy.

Have you ever known me to not have shit to say or fall back? Do you really think I should cancel my cycling appointment to argue with you? I love how you typed all that out, while knowing it isn't true; you can't hang with me. You're dishonest.

Now I gotta go.

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 4:03:23 PM
#87:


Doom_Art posted...
I understand we need to believe all women


No you don't. And you actively have been trying to smear a victim this whole time. You're one of the worst ones doing it too. Fuck outta here with that bull shit.
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HiddenRoar
05/02/20 4:04:10 PM
#88:


Tyranthraxus posted...


I'm all for digging up that complaint. Joe Biden himself said go fetch the complaint and make it public.

Now she's saying that she filed a complaint but didn't mention anything about sexual assault in it. Okay, so go fetch that complaint and lets see what she did say.

\_()_/

Nobody seems to want to investigate this except Joe Biden. I wonder why.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/joe-biden-tara-reade-complaint-229838

In his first televised interview about Tara Reade, Joe Biden said his old office personnel records arentamong the senatorial papers he sent to the University of Delaware. The personnel records which might shed some light on Reades claim that she filed a workplace complaint with the Senate in 1993 arein the National Archives, he said.
But the National Archives saidthose records are actually held by the Senate. Yet Senate rules governing the preservation of documents suggestedtheyre held by the General Services Administration ... which saidthe documents are located at the National Archives.
If Biden hoped he was clearing up a key evidentiary question Friday related to his former Senate staffers sexual assault allegations he called for the identification and release of any record of the complaint she alleges she filed he was sorely mistaken.

Now theres a focus on his refusal to commit to opening up his archived papers at the University of Delaware a trove of documents that critics suspect might house Reades complaint. Rather than set the record straight Friday in his first remarks on the subject, Biden might have inadvertently opened a new line of attack on his campaign this fall and provided President Trump who has famously refused to release his own tax records and has been accused of sexual assault multiple times with a measure of cover.
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During Fridays interview, Brzezinski pressed Biden to call on the University of Delaware to release his work papers just in case Reades complaint was there, rather than at the National Archives. Biden declined, saying the university wouldnt have any personnel-related documents.
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Bidens campaign has checked on the repository of his records since he announced his bid for president a year ago, but the university has been closed since mid-March.
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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 4:04:46 PM
#89:


Time_Rider posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Sounds like you don't have shit to say and you're falling back it's okay to sit this one out buddy.

Have you ever known me to not have shit to say or fall back? Do you really think I should cancel my cycling appointment to argue with you? I love how you typed all that out, while knowing it isn't true; you can't hang with me. You're dishonest.

Now I gotta go.


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Doom_Art
05/02/20 4:05:19 PM
#90:


Yeah I've been skeptical from the start

Because it was shady as shit

And look who's been vindicated

I'm a fairly stubborn person myself so I understand why you still intend to cling to this but come on man

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 4:07:09 PM
#91:


You haven't been vindicated lol you even jumped on that sex book quote. You should face the vile shit you've said and purported in order to discredit this woman.
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Doom_Art
05/02/20 4:08:58 PM
#92:


This woman has done plenty to discredit herself without anyone's help, as we've seen from everything shared ITT

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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 4:12:19 PM
#93:


Doom_Art posted...
This woman has done plenty to discredit herself without anyone's help, as we've seen from everything shared ITT


Like what? That tweet has 0 sources and I've done my due diligence to find some on it, came up with none.

You cant even hold yourself accountable for the fucked up shit you've been pushing against this woman. You're really no different than those Blasey Ford deniers and I want you to know that.
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Doom_Art
05/02/20 4:14:32 PM
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It's a bit more than a tweet but okay.

Continuing this ain't gonna make Bernie the nominee

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05/02/20 4:17:04 PM
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Smashingpmkns
05/02/20 4:17:12 PM
#96:


Doom_Art posted...
It's a bit more than a tweet but okay.

Continuing this ain't gonna make Bernie the nominee


Proving my point. You're even doing the Republican "this is how Hillary can still win" shit. It's so blatantly a shitty right wing strategy and you still cant own up to your words.
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hockeybub89
05/02/20 4:17:48 PM
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That shouldn't be your takeaway
It is my takeaway because that's basically what the rhetoric has been for 2 straight elections. "This person isn't the shittiest". It's not the type of mentality that exactly excites voters and gets them to express support. Who even cares specifically who wins when all the matters is them being not the worst piece of shit?

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Tyranthraxus
05/02/20 4:21:20 PM
#98:


HiddenRoar posted...
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/joe-biden-tara-reade-complaint-229838

Okay? The Senate has their chance to investigate. Investigate. Don't say "we can't investigate"

If she says there was a complaint, it should be somewhere. If fucking Kavanaugh can dig up his literal calendars out of a box I'm sure we can find a formal complaint lodged with the Senate.

And I don't care about Biden's refusal to commit to anything. It's not his decision to keep the University docs sealed. Launch an investigation and open it up anyway.

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05/02/20 4:24:02 PM
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Polycosm
05/02/20 4:27:37 PM
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I believed Tara Reade until she gave me multiple reasons not to. If journalists or investigators want to continue to look into the allegations, that's great; let us know if you find anything. Until then, what is there to discuss?

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