Current Events > Poll: laid-off people are more in favor of keeping businesses closed

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https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1260184573113241601

Make of this what you will
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...well, yeah.

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One of my roommates said he's making way more on unemployment than he did working.

who knew *shrug*

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people getting extra unemployment money for doing nothing want it to continue?

GASP

The majority of the people laid off and now on government subsidies were in low wage jobs in the service or laboring sectors

They are making more sitting at home playing video games than hauling their ass into some job they hate


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TC got fucking rekt

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Most people haven't even seen their unemployment checks yet.

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REMercsChamp posted...

TC got fucking rekt

It's hard to tell what his point was since he rarely offers anything in his OPs

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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

It's hard to tell what his point was since he rarely offers anything in his OPs

He was trying to frame this as people don't care if they have money or not they want to put the health and well-being of the public first, to the detriment of themselves, with indefinite closures.

What the statistics are actually saying is that these are mostly low paid people in the services or unskilled manual labor industries who are actually having a better life for themselves now that they get paid more to do nothing and don't have to slave away at a job they hate for meager wages.

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i'm making more now. meanwhile the jackass owner who wanted to keep us working until he got forced to close down isn't making his millions. stay closed!

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Antifar posted...

https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1260184573113241601

Make of this what you will

And what do you make of it comrade

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REMercsChamp posted...

He was trying to frame this as people don't care if they have money or not they want to put the health and well-being of the public first, to the detriment of themselves, with indefinite closures.

What the statistics are actually saying is that these are mostly low paid people in the services or unskilled manual labor industries who are actually having a better life for themselves now that they get paid more to do nothing and don't have to slave away at a job they hate for meager wages.

It's weird you think this is some sort of reality-shattering own rather than a reflection on how empty and unfulfilling low-wage work is.
Almost like it's something people would rather not die for?

Yeah people are lazy bums so of course they want to be taken care of like infants

ElatedVenusaur posted...

It's weird you think this is some sort of reality-shattering own rather than a reflection on how empty and unfulfilling low-wage work is.
Almost like it's something people would rather not die for?

I get it - they want free money for the rest of their lives to do nothing. If I was in their shoes I probably would as well. We're all in this for ourselves at the end of the day.

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I don't blame the 50-year-old laborer with herniated discs and no cartilage in their knees. Both legs go numb when they just want to try to sleep at night.

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Propane4Sale posted...

One of my roommates said he's making way more on unemployment than he did working.

who knew *shrug*

I really want to get laid off. At my job I would be making around 1800/m CAD, but if I were to be laid off, that would increase to a bit over 2k/m CAD. Not to mention that I'm being processed for a program that will pay for my college bills while I stay at home and "isolate". I like working, but its become far too stressful right now. Bosses are on their toes, acting like assholes even more, combined with college work its just too much to deal with. I'd rather just deal with the college bit for now.

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

It's hard to tell what his point was since he rarely offers anything in his OPs

Nothing wrong with sharing information

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REMercsChamp posted...

I get it - they want free money for the rest of their lives to do nothing. If I was in their shoes I probably would as well. We're all in this for ourselves at the end of the day.

Are you some sort of bible-thumping evangelist or something? Why do you believe our Earth is meant to be some eternal wheel of miserable drudgery for us humans?

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No shit, they made unemployment too high lol

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Ohio is 5 or 6 weeks behind unemployment. Good luck. That's why Dewine caved and started re-opening.

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Fam_Fam posted...

people getting extra unemployment money for doing nothing want it to continue?

GASP

here's my thinking on my unemployment payments: the government can keep this giant thing of cash for me in case of emergency with many specific rules for me to access it

Or I can just hold it myself in my own bank account

So I'm going to suck my unemployment account dry, personally

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Shablagoo posted...

Are you some sort of bible-thumping evangelist or something? Why do you believe our Earth is meant to be some eternal wheel of miserable drudgery for us humans?

You need to work and be productive to have a society going. What you're seeing here is a temporary fantasy land that is going to take a long time to recover from. If you think just handing out all this money won't have any ramifications in the future you're in for a rude awakening.

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Colorahdo posted...

here's my thinking on my unemployment payments: the government can keep this giant thing of cash for me in case of emergency with many specific rules for me to access it

Or I can just hold it myself in my own bank account

So I'm going to suck my unemployment account dry, personally

Unemployment is paid by your employer, technically

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of course they do.

but there are consequences for not working. if everybody did it, life providing services will be scarce. someone has to do it. theyve been doing their jobs of farming transporting stocking and selling production

we simply arent there yet. i believe in automation that we can eventually move to resource production automation with little to no human presence. new jobs new work and more people doing something else to benefit everybody. eventually...

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It's not worth risking your life for low wages, especially if you don't have health insurance. Despite what some employers or government officials might say, it's not commendable to sacrifice your life for the economy.

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Somehow people are talking about how people are making more money being unemployed and blaming the workers instead of the system that fucks up paying workers so badly. Maybe people should be supported so we can actually properly address this pandemic, and maybe we should pay people more when they do work.

Anyway, anyone in favor of opening up is stupid as fuck, regardless of how much money they are currently making. You can't fight nature. All you can do is endure and then pick up the pieces on the other side.

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3 out of 4 people want businesses to stay closed to fight off a pandemic disease.

But slightly more people on unemployment benefits want it, so let's demonize people who lost their job!
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If crybabies out protesting wanted to work every fast food, grocery store, walmart, sams, costco, and targert are hiring. Along with damn near every business that is considered essential. The people protesting don't want work or of they do, they don't want to do actual work. That they consider that sort of work to be beneath them. They want to go back to their nice cushy office jobs and force the service industries that are closed to go back to catering to their needs.

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REMercsChamp posted...

I get it - they want free money for the rest of their lives to do nothing. If I was in their shoes I probably would as well. We're all in this for ourselves at the end of the day.

This line of thought explains a lot about you.

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ElatedVenusaur posted...

It's weird you think this is some sort of reality-shattering own rather than a reflection on how empty and unfulfilling low-wage work is.
Almost like it's something people would rather not die for?

No one's surprised. If anything it's validating. The mantra 6 months ago was that life is about living not working, and now we see "living" means spend as much time as possible in front of a a screen doing as little as possible while taking the fruits of the efforts of others to survive. I'm not even seeing people start doing all the great things they swore they'd do if they weren't bogged down by having to go to work: get in shape, learn new skills, write that book, read that book. They just fight to do nothing and will forever.

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REMercsChamp posted...

You need to work and be productive to have a society going. What you're seeing here is a temporary fantasy land that is going to take a long time to recover from. If you think just handing out all this money won't have any ramifications in the future you're in for a rude awakening.

Most jobs in the U.S. are useless and we produce a massive overabundance of supplies/resources such as food. We could easily rework everything to the point where were doing 20 hour work weeks and getting paid more to do it.

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Probably because they're making money doing nothing

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DeadBankerDream posted...

3 out of 4 people want businesses to stay closed to fight off a pandemic disease.

But slightly more people on unemployment benefits want it, so let's demonize people who lost their job!

Yeah but that makes it harder to punch down at unemployed people!

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Shablagoo posted...

Most jobs in the U.S. are useless

Okay and who made you the judge if a job is useful or not? I'm sure you only think society should exist to give you your internet, netflix, gamefaqs subscription and food right?

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people got a taste of UBI and don't want to lose it.

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REMercsChamp posted...

Okay and who made you the judge if a job is useful or not? I'm sure you only think society should exist to give you your internet, netflix, gamefaqs subscription and food right?

That sounds fucking awesome. What sociopath would not want that utopia? A future worth fighting for

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The biggest issue with society, is everyone's spite towards one another. I see it constantly. If someone is miserable, they want everyone around them to suffer as well.

Can confirm that I'm making a lot more money at home bullshitting than I did working as an essential (before we were furloughed). And when I was working, I had to deal with a lot of assholes and idiots in the scolding hot sun.

Needless to say, as much as I'd like this pandemic to be over, I'm also in no rush to go back to work.

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Shoot I wish I got laid off now

Elmer_Glue posted...

The biggest issue with society, is everyone's spite towards one another. I see it constantly. If someone is miserable, they want everyone around them to suffer as well.

Or alternatively, we're overworked and underpaid ourselves because we have far too many people fighting to keep low skil jobs around instead of rising to fill jobs in higher demand, or worse, are low skilled people making mistakes I have to take extra time and effort out of my day to fix. We'd love more spare time, but things need to get done and not enough people are rising up to meet the needs of the business or community they're in, and we get to make up the shortfall. Why should I work a 8 hour day + 2 hours transportation + several hours doing errands, household chores, and other necessities of life to have just enough time and energy to pass out in bed while someone else gets to spend all that time playing video games? Why do socialists only want to socialize money, not effort?

Oh right, comments like yours shows a lack of growth beyond seeing chore and homework as old people punishing their kids for being young, not preparation for when it's your turn to run things.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Or alternatively, we're overworked and underpaid ourselves because we have far too many people fighting to keep low skil jobs around instead of rising to fill jobs in higher demand, or worse, are low skilled people making mistakes I have to take extra time and effort out of my day to fix. We'd love more spare time, but things need to get done and not enough people are rising up to meet the needs of the business or community they're in, and we get to make up the shortfall. Why should I work a 8 hour day + 2 hours transportation + several hours doing errands, household chores, and other necessities of life to have just enough time and energy to pass out in bed while someone else gets to spend all that time playing video games? Why do socialists only want to socialize money, not effort?

Oh right, comments like yours shows a lack of growth beyond seeing chore and homework as old people punishing their kids for being young, not preparation for when it's your turn to run things.

This is that spite an above poster was talking about? "My life is endless work, so shouldn't everyone's be?"

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REMercsChamp posted...

I get it - they want free money for the rest of their lives to do nothing. If I was in their shoes I probably would as well. We're all in this for ourselves at the end of the day.

you should've logged onto another account for your bit itt, feels a bit at odds with your sig

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money for nothin
and the chicks for free

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hockeybub89 posted...

This is that spite an above poster was talking about? "My life is endless work, so shouldn't everyone's be?"

Try, "my life could have some leisure and your life could have some leisure if we split the work evenly too, but instead you want all leisure while I get all work" instead of something rooted in thinking work is some kind of punishment.

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hockeybub89 posted...

That sounds fucking awesome. What sociopath would not want that utopia? A future worth fighting for

This.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Try, "my life could have some leisure and your life could have some leisure if we split the work evenly too, but instead you want all leisure while I get all work" instead of something rooted in thinking work is some kind of punishment.

Who said they wanted all leisure?

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lightwarrior78 posted...

Try, "my life could have some leisure and your life could have some leisure if we split the work evenly too, but instead you want all leisure while I get all work" instead of something rooted in thinking work is some kind of punishment.

Sounds like the root of your issue is the fact you have a 2 hour commute. Maybe you should work on getting that commute to be smaller so you have more time for other things.

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where does the assumption itt that these people are all making much more money on unemployment than in work come from

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